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Old September 19, 2014, 08:54 AM   #1
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MO. . . DC to Issue. . . Carry Apps . . . Thank You!

Missouri Legislature override of the Governor’s Veto will make open carry legal throughout the state of MO for anyone with a valid permit/license. This new law does not take effect until Oct 12, 2014. Local governments could have ordinances banning open carry and this new law makes all those local ordinances null and void for those with a valid permit/license. MO also lowered the age to apply for a permit/license to carry to 19. The only problem with this is it may cause a few states to stop honoring the MO permit/license. NV dropped WV because they issue to those 18-20 for employment purposes. Some states will just state that a MO permit/license holder has to be 21 to carry in their state. We will just have to wait and see what effect this has on who honors MO. The changes in MO Law will be added to the MO page at www.handgunlaw.us on the effective date.

DC is going to start issuing permit/licenses to carry in the coming months due to a court ruling. It will be May Issue and have a lot of restrictions on where you can’t carry. I am hearing some of those places off limits will be mobile. Meaning it will be legal to carry on a public street/sidewalk at one instant and the next instant it will be a roving off limits area. I am hearing they will also issue to non residents but are structuring their carry laws using Maryland and New York laws as guides. Obtaining a non resident permit/license will be very difficult (read that as Impossible) for us common folks. The process of writing this law is worth watching as it will show a very clear picture of what the elitist really think of the peons, I mean Citizens!

I get emails and requests via posts on different boards asking when www.handgunlaw.us is going to have an app. They are expensive to develop and then they must be updated. There is one app that links to Handgunlaw.us and works very well on my Nexus7. Handgunlaw.us is not partnered with/collaborating with or making any money from this app. Seven Bit Software LLC is the maker of the “Gun Safe” App. I will state that I am bias towards the info that Handgunlaw.us supplies and believe it is the most comprehensive and up to date information you can find in one place on the web. I also have every app I can find that supplies info on the carry laws in all the states and in my opinion Gun Safe is the best app out there because it links to Handgunlaw.us

Again I want to thank those who gave me a heads up on changes in their state. I can’t do this by myself and your assistance is what makes www.handgunlaw.us what it is. Thank You!
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Old September 19, 2014, 09:17 PM   #2
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“NV dropped WV because they issue to those 18-20 for employment purposes.”

For a supposedly pro-gun state, Nevada has some of the weirdest, arbitrary, constantly in flux laws of any state I’m familiar with. As I understand it, that’s because their laws are apparently frequently changed by a committee of county sheriffs rather than the legislative process. I don’t know how many times they have approved and disapproved recognition of Arizonas CCW.

As I understand it, the “legal to carry on a public street/sidewalk at one instant and the next instant it will be a roving off limits area.” Because of a 1,000 foot prohibition around politicos and visiting dignitaries as they move around the area.
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Old September 20, 2014, 09:23 AM   #3
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DC is going to start issuing permit/licenses to carry in the coming months due to a court ruling.
When flaming flying monkeys come outta my butt.
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Old September 20, 2014, 09:53 AM   #4
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They will be issuing. It will be may issue and difficult to obtain. DC did have an issue law on the books previously. Those with connections, usually Government Officials could get one. After Heller they deleted their carry law and went to no permit/licenses. Now the court says they have to. Again it will be very restrictive. A few government officials in Washington were being made Deputy Federal Marshall's so they could carry legally. Will us common folks be able to get one? Not very easily. Look at Maryland and New Jersey and how they issue and you will see about how DC will do it.
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Old September 20, 2014, 11:44 AM   #5
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Let's hope their choice to go may issue is the beginning of the end of may issue! Illinois went with shall issue. Many people think this is because other states didn't want may issue ruled on by SCOTUS.

Does anyone know what happens if Judge Scullin doesn't think this addresses his ruling adequately?
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Old September 21, 2014, 03:47 AM   #6
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Let's hope their choice to go may issue is the beginning of the end of may issue! Illinois went with shall issue. Many people think this is because other states didn't want may issue ruled on by SCOTUS.



Does anyone know what happens if Judge Scullin doesn't think this addresses his ruling adequately?

And we here in IL are finally enjoying something resembling freedom!
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Old September 21, 2014, 04:11 AM   #7
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Gary--

Thank you for your good work.

I have used handgunlaw.us for at least five years (especially when planning a trip) and have recommended it to a number of like-minded individuals.

It is a great resource, and I'm sure it takes a good bit of work to keep it current.

Best regards, Rich in TX
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Old September 21, 2014, 07:17 AM   #8
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“NV dropped WV because they issue to those 18-20 for employment purposes.”

For a supposedly pro-gun state, Nevada has some of the weirdest, arbitrary, constantly in flux laws of any state I’m familiar with. As I understand it, that’s because their laws are apparently frequently changed by a committee of county sheriffs rather than the legislative process. I don’t know how many times they have approved and disapproved recognition of Arizonas CCW.

As I understand it, the “legal to carry on a public street/sidewalk at one instant and the next instant it will be a roving off limits area.” Because of a 1,000 foot prohibition around politicos and visiting dignitaries as they move around the area.
Luckily, it is not criminal to be in one of the "roving" areas until a police officer notifies you that you can't carry there and you don't leave. As mentioned earlier, the DC Ltc looks so hard to get that not many will end up with one.
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Old September 21, 2014, 12:57 PM   #9
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They will be issuing. It will be may issue and difficult to obtain. DC did have an issue law on the books previously. Those with connections, usually Government Officials could get one. After Heller they deleted their carry law and went to no permit/licenses. Now the court says they have to. Again it will be very restrictive. A few government officials in Washington were being made Deputy Federal Marshall's so they could carry legally. Will us common folks be able to get one? Not very easily. Look at Maryland and New Jersey and how they issue and you will see about how DC will do it.
Great, they will issue 7 ... great 2A victory!
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