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Old June 5, 2013, 10:22 AM   #76
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Agree with #72, it is a project gun.
It might well once have been a USGI 1909, the serial number is late in the range. Would there have been an Army inspector's stamp on a "left over frame?" I don't know for sure but doubt it.

The barrel taper and shoulder are like no Colt I have seen, the front ramp sight looks like the one on Numrich replacement barrels of the Golden Age of Surplus (1946 - 1968) and the rear sight looks like no Colt (or anything else) I am familiar with. The checkering on the trigger looks like a shop job, and the best I can tell the 1909 did not have a factory checkered trigger.
Looks like a decent but not outstanding reblue.

One test would be whether it would fire a .45 ACP without clip.
Or would chamber a .45 Colt.
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Old June 5, 2013, 07:28 PM   #77
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Chambers and shoots .45 ACP no problem.
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Old June 5, 2013, 07:29 PM   #78
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Even without moonclip
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Old June 5, 2013, 09:15 PM   #79
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Now you just need some .45 Auto Rim cases.
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Old June 5, 2013, 09:41 PM   #80
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Now you just need some .45 Auto Rim cases.
Probably not. They have extra thick rims to duplicate the .45 ACP case with a clip attached. The posted photographs show me that there isn't enough clearence between the breechface and cylinder. in theory a shortened .45 (Long) Colt case trimmed to length might work, but I suspect the case wall would then be too thick.
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Old June 5, 2013, 09:53 PM   #81
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in theory a shortened .45 (Long) Colt case trimmed to length might work, but I suspect the case wall would then be too thick.
Would the rim diameter of the long Colt case allow reliable extraction or would it slip under the star?
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Old June 5, 2013, 10:32 PM   #82
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Not having the revolver I'm not sure. So far as that goes I'm not really sure what it's chambered for.

The most likely candidate is .455 Webley/Eley
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Old July 8, 2013, 02:17 PM   #83
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Colt Research

I was recently given two Colt pistols. How can I research for date of manufacture? Is there a database or website?

Colt Woodsman in 22lr
Colt Police Positive in 38spl
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Old July 8, 2013, 04:17 PM   #84
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Be aware that if it's chambered to use .38 Special cartridges you have a Police Positive Special revolver, not a Police Positive.

The two are serial numbered in their own series.
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Old July 8, 2013, 05:13 PM   #85
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Would it say,"Special"? I'm pretty sure mine does not. 38 S&W otherwise?
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Old July 9, 2013, 01:22 AM   #86
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The Police Positive and Police Positive Special were identical, except the "Special" had a slightly longer cylinder and frame.

The Police Positive was chambered as a center-fire in .38 S&W / Colt .38 New Police and .32 S&W Long / Colt .32 New Police.

The Police Positive Special came in .32-20 WCF and .38 Special.

If there is still a question I will look up the cylinder length dimensions.

This all changed after World War Two, but that's another story.
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Old July 9, 2013, 08:06 AM   #87
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Got it. Its a Special.

Revolver 1928
Woodsman 1942

Thanks for the help!
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Old August 19, 2013, 06:08 PM   #88
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I have a Colt Cobra
.38spl
2" barrel
2nd series with a ramped front sight and a shrouded ejector.

Serial No F82xxx

Any date information is appreciated. Thanks.

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Old October 11, 2013, 05:18 PM   #89
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I have a Colt Trooper Mark III 4" blued .357 magnum would like to know some information about, thanks S/N 14172L
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Old February 8, 2014, 04:35 AM   #90
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a) caliber- I think 38lc
b) bbl length (from cylinder to muzzle)- 4.5"
c) grips shape (round or square)- wooden square
d) number of shots/cylinder bores- 6 round cylinder
e) type of sights. Fixed round front and grooved top strap
f) serial number, and if there is a letter in front of or anywhere near the s/n on the bottom of the grip
Bottom of grip is numbered x09 and inside the crane is x45 w/ a F slightly above and to the right with a upside down 17 stamped just below.
g) Model number if it is under the crane.-

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Old February 8, 2014, 11:11 AM   #91
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I haven't been able to bring up your picture, which in this case could be critical to correct identification. Anyway let's go in another direction.

Are they're any markings on the barrel, in particular the top and left side?

Are the wood stocks checkered or plain?

Are the chambers bored straight through (back to front) or are they stepped down at the front to make a smaller diameter throat?
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Old February 8, 2014, 03:00 PM   #92
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Are they're any markings on the barrel, in particular the top and left side?
- The left side of the bbl simply says (COLT D.A. 38)

Are the wood stocks checkered or plain?
-Well worn wood that is checkered in some places with a silver colt medallion on top.

Are the chambers bored straight through (back to front) or are they stepped down at the front to make a smaller diameter throat?
- There is a visible step at the end of the cylinder
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Old February 8, 2014, 06:38 PM   #93
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Since I haven't got a photograph take the following with a grain of salt.

I think you have a late production Colt 1892 New Model Army/Navy .38 revolver, and if the chambers are stepped with a throat it's probably chambered in .38 Special. The .38 Long Colt's had chambers that were bored straight through. The (worn) checkered stocks are likely replacements, made after the mid-1920's. I would approximately date it around 1902 - 08. The model was discontinued in 1908 and replaced with the .38 Army Special, which in 1927 was renamed the Official Police.

Use a search engine (Yahoo, Google, etc.) and make a search on "Colt model New Army/Navy revolver" and see if you find any photographs that match your gun.
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Old February 13, 2014, 11:19 AM   #94
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If you have information on three Colt 1895 New Army/Navy Revolvers, that would be great!

1) Number 99,464, a Civilian Model, .38 Long Colt
2) Number 97,168, with Navy Markings, .38 Long Colt
3) Number 79,107, a Civilian in .41 Long Colt.

Incidentally, I know of one in the 115,800 range, that is supposedly after the 115,000 antique pre-1899 'cut-off', but it dates from December of 1898.

Thank you.
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Old June 5, 2014, 07:38 PM   #95
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Identity and Date of Manufacture of Colt Revolvers

Wrong thread. Sorry

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Old June 5, 2014, 07:52 PM   #96
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Wrong thread, this is the Colt ID & dating thread.
You have a .38 Military & Police Model of 1905 4th Chnage manufactured between 1927 & 1929.
It has a heat treated cylinder so it should be safe with standard pressure and PlusP ammunition, although S&W discourage use of PlusP in guns not stamped with model numbers.
It predates the positive hammer block safety introduced after a fatality with a dropped gun in 1944. I would treat it as a 5 shooter, leaving the chamber under the hammer empty.
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Old September 7, 2014, 07:40 PM   #97
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Thank you for your fast reply, I could not find the info from S & W
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