Anyone else going back to the 9mm?? - Page 3

ku4hx · October 10, 2012, 09:36 AM

I've never left any cartridge, just chose the best one/preferred one for the job at hand. I like the 9mm. I like the 40 cal. I like the 45 ACP. I like the 10mm. I like the 38 Special. I like the 357 Magnum. I like the 357 Sig. I like the 44 Special. I like the 44 Magnum. I like the, well ... you get the picture.

Why "leave" any? Just set the gun aside; you'll pick it up again in time. Cycle of life sort of thing.

mdauben · October 10, 2012, 10:28 AM

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Anyone else going back to the 9mm??

I never left it! My first centerfire pistol was a Glock 17 and I still use that gun even though I have a couple .45's and a .357 now, too.

1858 · October 10, 2012, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sigokat

I love 9mm. All I own are .45 auto and 9mm.

Me too!! Three SIGs in 9mm, three SIGs in .45 Auto and seven 1911s in .45 Auto with plans to add another SIG ... an SP2022 in 9mm.

danweasel · October 10, 2012, 05:13 PM

I am shrinking.

.45 traded to my pops for a .40 (stupid. stupid, STUPID), then tired of the kick to the uhhh... stomach every time I buy practice ammo, I went out and bought an XD9. I love $9.99 a box Magtech/Independence!

PTMCCAIN · October 10, 2012, 06:32 PM

"Going back?" I never left.

Have both 9mm and .45ACP.

awfulkanawful · October 10, 2012, 08:58 PM

Being new I tried them all ! Original consensus from friends and others was bigger was better......wrong ! I sold 2 .40's for guess what........9mm cougars....lol I love them , and 9mm today with HST 124gr will do the trick just fine......every time.

Lennyjoe · October 10, 2012, 09:17 PM

Probably not. Started with .357 and .40, had a few 9's and not mostly .45 ACP for me.

In saying that, I have a Kel-Tec PF9 that I carry regularly only because it slips in the pocket nice and is easy to tote around in the hot Arizona summers.

But, I love the ACP's and my girlfriend is a .40 cal nut. I reload anyway so its not such an issue at the counter for factory ammo.

bds · October 10, 2012, 09:18 PM

40S&W pistols with 9mm conversion barrels.

Best of both worlds!

bds · October 10, 2012, 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by twinny

Today's 9mm loads are so wussied down that it's disgusting, really.

Really? How about these actual chrono numbers? - http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=680677

I wouldn't want to be hit by any of them.

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Originally Posted by intercooler

9mm DoubleTap 115gr +P JHP 1395 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1369.6 FPS/ 478.89 LBS
9mm DoubleTap 124gr +P JHP 1295 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1315.4 FPS/ 476.31 LBS
9mm Buffalo Bore 115gr +P JHP 1300 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1333.5 FPS/ 453.98 LBS
9mm Buffalo Bore 124gr +P 1225 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1266.4 FPS/ 441.48 LBS

kokapelli · October 10, 2012, 10:33 PM

Or maybe like this......

http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/3xsMH50_rtY

golden · October 11, 2012, 04:02 PM

I am issued a .40 S&W H&K P2000 at work, but once I get home, I switch to a9m.m.
I use either a BERETTA 92 or SIG 225 at home, loaded with HYDRO SHOK +P+ rounds.

I do not need to be beaten up by the recoil of a .40 or 45. I am quite satisfied with the accuracy, power and controlabilty of the BERETTA and SIG.

In fact, I do bet my life on them.

Jim

Thompsoncustom · October 11, 2012, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by intercooler
9mm DoubleTap 115gr +P JHP 1395 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1369.6 FPS/ 478.89 LBS
9mm DoubleTap 124gr +P JHP 1295 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1315.4 FPS/ 476.31 LBS
9mm Buffalo Bore 115gr +P JHP 1300 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1333.5 FPS/ 453.98 LBS
9mm Buffalo Bore 124gr +P 1225 FPS (XD 4") Average = 1266.4 FPS/ 441.48 LBS

Those numbers aren't all that impressive comparative to underwood ammo or reloads. Well underwood's is only 501/lbs but I've pushed the speer gold dot to 1564fps/625lb's tho I would say that the pressure level was unsafe for most guns and the bullet frags at that speed. I find for me 1425fps/517lb to be prefect and the bullet expands to over 1 inch not so sure if that's to good or not but it sure looks neat.

IMTHDUKE · October 12, 2012, 03:54 PM

Have mostly 9s....some 45s.....one 40.....one 357sig(one gun different barrels. Couple of 380s.......I like em all.

The-Reaver · October 12, 2012, 10:05 PM

I never left the 9 mm probably never will. Don't get me wrong situation dictates as always so carry 9mm but from the inside of my truck to the windows. BG catching 45 ACP

FMF Doc · October 12, 2012, 10:53 PM

I did. I started with a Beretta 92fs, then moved to a G19 Gen 3 for something lighter. Then dabble with various .380s and 38/357 revolvers trying to find something easier to carry. Finally came back to the G19 Gen4 in good old cheap, reliable 9mm. And I don't plan on leaving. Now that I have my S&W M&P Shield, I don't need anything small. And if I need to go bigger, I'll just add to the collection, but my G19 and 9mm are not going anywhere!

Dr_2_B · October 12, 2012, 11:03 PM

I am becoming more comfortable with 9mm than I used to be. During the 1990's and the 2000's I wanted something that started with a 4. But a couple things happened for me. First, I began to recognize that ballistics technology was making the difference between a 9mm and the slightly larger calibers negligible. Second, I began to recognize that even those larger calibers weren't quite the magic bullet i'd once believed. For the first time i really iunderstand that shot placement is much much more important than anything else. And the mind-set of the bad guy plays as big a part as a lot of things.

JROC · October 14, 2012, 01:33 AM

9mm is a great round IMO. It and 10mm are the only two semi-auto pistol rounds I really care about. The only reason I have any love for .45 ACP is because I like 1911's.

Gun chambered in 9mm tend to be very good, and reliable firearms with few issues.

JERRY · October 14, 2012, 01:56 AM

i never left the 9mm, had one since 1988 in one form or another.

most of my semi-autos are 9mms, but im still a sucker for a .45acp in a small package such as the PM45 and the power of the 10mm in a police type gun like the G20.

PocketRocket · October 14, 2012, 04:32 AM

I was required to carry a revolver while on road patrol. When I went to homicide I first carried a S&W 559 (like the 459, but a blue steel frame and slide - only 2500 made) mainly because reloading ammo was cheap. I prefer the 1911 platform, so when a Colt Combat Commander (like the regular Commander, but a blue steel frame and slide) became available in 9mm Luger I made the switch.

I enjoy a pistol with a stout recoil and shoot them reasonably well, so I purchased a Colt Government Model 9x23 barrel (cut down to 4.25”), bushing and magazine and the Combat Commander was good to go.

Choreographed Velocities:

124 gr JSP Winchester White Box = 1400 fps
124 gr Hornady XTP over HS6 = 1450 fps

You're looking at .357mag velocities out of a auto-pistol with very managable recoil - not even close to that of a 4" revolver.

If anyone is considering this conversion please note that Colt only recommends this caliber in their all steel pistols. Most reloaders only use small rifle primers.

Halal Pork · October 14, 2012, 08:51 AM

Since I doubt I will ever get rid of at least three pistols chambered in 9mm, leaving was never an option. It has crossed my mind looking at ammo prices to dump my 40s and the ammo I have set aside for them though. If I see $400 for a case of American Eagle from the wholesalers, I'm selling out, taking the profits, and sticking with 9mm and 45 ACP in the pistols category from then on.

SharpsDressedMan · October 15, 2012, 10:59 AM

I have certainly re-introduced myself to the 9mm in the last 7-8 years, due to the cost of reloading, and the sheer joy of the multitude of designs and guns in 9mm. Variety is truly spicy. I have 3 Walthers (PPS P99 & P38), 2 CZ75's, 4 Browning/FN Hi Powers, 1 S&W 3914, and a Beretta 92FS. Not bad for a big-bore fan. Some kind of 9mm always goes to the range with bigger guns, and often gets packed, just becuase they are fun. They are all sighted in, I know where they hit, and I can place shots with the best of them. That makes me feel well armed, with a gun and round that still exceeds the old reliable .38 Special.

ponchsox · October 15, 2012, 04:35 PM

Never left.

HoosierQ · October 15, 2012, 04:37 PM

Never left it. Got a .45 ACP just to have one but a 9mm will always be my go to gun...that or .38spl. I guess I am old school.

Skribs · October 15, 2012, 05:49 PM

I've tried finding the "perfect" CCW for a while now. I've tried a duty-size and compact-size .40, a pocket .380, and even a 3" 5-shot revolver. I've come to the conclusion that a compact 9 is my favorite, and my current BUG is a compact 9. I'm not sure if I want to replace my primary with another compact or a full-size, but I know it's going to be a double-stack 9 from the M&P line.

Dnaltrop · October 15, 2012, 07:23 PM

I've shot them many, many, many... (etc etc) times... My wife owns one... I enjoy borrowing my old man's CZ-83, There are a few guns in 9mm that I wouldn't mind owning, albeit after other desires are met.

.38/357.. sure! (close, No cigar)

I have no outward complaints with the round, or any illusions that proper loads are ineffective.

But for myself, I've NEVER been "In" with the 9mm crowd, it seems to be the caliber I skip over immediately in most instances when making such considerations.

I either immediately lock on to the nearest .45/38/357 wheelguns, or look at .45 ACP/10mm when considering Semis... or .22/380 when going smaller.

To each their own, maybe i'll get that CZ-75, or Calico after finally saving up for the DeLisle.

October 10, 2012, 09:36 AM	#51
ku4hx Member Join Date: November 8, 2009 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,195	I've never left any cartridge, just chose the best one/preferred one for the job at hand. I like the 9mm. I like the 40 cal. I like the 45 ACP. I like the 10mm. I like the 38 Special. I like the 357 Magnum. I like the 357 Sig. I like the 44 Special. I like the 44 Magnum. I like the, well ... you get the picture. Why "leave" any? Just set the gun aside; you'll pick it up again in time. Cycle of life sort of thing. __________________ “Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you” ― Joseph Heller, Catch-22

October 10, 2012, 05:13 PM	#54
danweasel Member Join Date: April 5, 2008 Location: Alaska Posts: 630	I am shrinking. .45 traded to my pops for a .40 (stupid. stupid, STUPID), then tired of the kick to the uhhh... stomach every time I buy practice ammo, I went out and bought an XD9. I love $9.99 a box Magtech/Independence! __________________ When I came back to Dublin I was courtmartialed in my absence and sentenced to death in my absence, so I said they could shoot me in my absence. - Brendan Behan

October 10, 2012, 08:58 PM	#56
awfulkanawful Member Join Date: October 8, 2012 Posts: 31	YUP.......been there Being new I tried them all ! Original consensus from friends and others was bigger was better......wrong ! I sold 2 .40's for guess what........9mm cougars....lol I love them , and 9mm today with HST 124gr will do the trick just fine......every time.

October 11, 2012, 04:02 PM	#61
golden Member Join Date: August 28, 2007 Posts: 673	I AM I am issued a .40 S&W H&K P2000 at work, but once I get home, I switch to a9m.m. I use either a BERETTA 92 or SIG 225 at home, loaded with HYDRO SHOK +P+ rounds. I do not need to be beaten up by the recoil of a .40 or 45. I am quite satisfied with the accuracy, power and controlabilty of the BERETTA and SIG. In fact, I do bet my life on them. Jim

October 12, 2012, 03:54 PM	#63
IMTHDUKE Member Join Date: August 27, 2004 Location: Sweet Home Alabama Posts: 945	Have mostly 9s....some 45s.....one 40.....one 357sig(one gun different barrels. Couple of 380s.......I like em all. __________________ http://www.treasureislandbedandbreakfast.com Ed Brown Kobra Carry \| HK P7M8, P2000sk , P30s \|Sig P239SAS, 1911 C3, P238, P938 \| Colt Defender, Mustang Pocketlite, 1911 \|Rohrbaugh R9 \|Kimber Covert Ultra II, \| Browning HP, Buckmark 22LR(suppressed)\| Walter PPK(1966) \| Kahr PM9 Black Rose \|S&W M&P

October 10, 2012, 06:32 PM	#55
PTMCCAIN member Join Date: January 1, 2011 Posts: 545	"Going back?" I never left. Have both 9mm and .45ACP.

October 10, 2012, 09:17 PM	#57
Lennyjoe Member Join Date: December 24, 2002 Location: Sunny Arizona Posts: 5,545	Probably not. Started with .357 and .40, had a few 9's and not mostly .45 ACP for me. In saying that, I have a Kel-Tec PF9 that I carry regularly only because it slips in the pocket nice and is easy to tote around in the hot Arizona summers. But, I love the ACP's and my girlfriend is a .40 cal nut. I reload anyway so its not such an issue at the counter for factory ammo.

October 10, 2012, 09:18 PM	#58
bds Member Join Date: January 10, 2010 Posts: 7,372	40S&W pistols with 9mm conversion barrels. Best of both worlds!

October 10, 2012, 10:33 PM	#60
kokapelli Member Join Date: January 27, 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 2,592	Or maybe like this...... http://youtube.googleapis.com/v/3xsMH50_rtY

October 12, 2012, 10:05 PM	#64
The-Reaver Member Join Date: December 27, 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 781	I never left the 9 mm probably never will. Don't get me wrong situation dictates as always so carry 9mm but from the inside of my truck to the windows. BG catching 45 ACP __________________ http://i625.photobucket.com/albums/t...ist_banner.jpg

October 12, 2012, 10:53 PM	#65
FMF Doc Member Join Date: September 9, 2011 Location: NC Posts: 582	I did. I started with a Beretta 92fs, then moved to a G19 Gen 3 for something lighter. Then dabble with various .380s and 38/357 revolvers trying to find something easier to carry. Finally came back to the G19 Gen4 in good old cheap, reliable 9mm. And I don't plan on leaving. Now that I have my S&W M&P Shield, I don't need anything small. And if I need to go bigger, I'll just add to the collection, but my G19 and 9mm are not going anywhere! __________________ Navy Combat Veteran, Reserve FMF Corpsman, Firefighter/EMT/Paramedic, Tactical Medic "A veteran is someone, who at one point in his life, wrote a blank check, 'Payable to the United States of America' for any amount 'Upto and including his life'." If you want to thank a Veteran...GIVE HIM A JOB!

October 12, 2012, 11:03 PM	#66
Dr_2_B Member Join Date: January 4, 2006 Location: midwest Posts: 1,816	I am becoming more comfortable with 9mm than I used to be. During the 1990's and the 2000's I wanted something that started with a 4. But a couple things happened for me. First, I began to recognize that ballistics technology was making the difference between a 9mm and the slightly larger calibers negligible. Second, I began to recognize that even those larger calibers weren't quite the magic bullet i'd once believed. For the first time i really iunderstand that shot placement is much much more important than anything else. And the mind-set of the bad guy plays as big a part as a lot of things. __________________ If you're not a liberal when you're 20, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative when you're 40, you have no head. - adapted from Francois Guisot (often wrongly attributed to Winston Churchill) Last edited by Dr_2_B; October 13, 2012 at 10:16 AM.

October 14, 2012, 01:33 AM	#67
JROC Member Join Date: May 29, 2011 Location: SC Posts: 210	9mm is a great round IMO. It and 10mm are the only two semi-auto pistol rounds I really care about. The only reason I have any love for .45 ACP is because I like 1911's. Gun chambered in 9mm tend to be very good, and reliable firearms with few issues.

October 14, 2012, 01:56 AM	#68
JERRY Member Join Date: June 5, 2003 Location: Alabama Posts: 1,697	i never left the 9mm, had one since 1988 in one form or another. most of my semi-autos are 9mms, but im still a sucker for a .45acp in a small package such as the PM45 and the power of the 10mm in a police type gun like the G20.

October 14, 2012, 04:32 AM	#69
PocketRocket Member Join Date: July 6, 2012 Posts: 54	9mm on Steroids -- 9x23 Win. I was required to carry a revolver while on road patrol. When I went to homicide I first carried a S&W 559 (like the 459, but a blue steel frame and slide - only 2500 made) mainly because reloading ammo was cheap. I prefer the 1911 platform, so when a Colt Combat Commander (like the regular Commander, but a blue steel frame and slide) became available in 9mm Luger I made the switch. I enjoy a pistol with a stout recoil and shoot them reasonably well, so I purchased a Colt Government Model 9x23 barrel (cut down to 4.25”), bushing and magazine and the Combat Commander was good to go. Choreographed Velocities: 124 gr JSP Winchester White Box = 1400 fps 124 gr Hornady XTP over HS6 = 1450 fps You're looking at .357mag velocities out of a auto-pistol with very managable recoil - not even close to that of a 4" revolver. If anyone is considering this conversion please note that Colt only recommends this caliber in their all steel pistols. Most reloaders only use small rifle primers. __________________ * "This is my rifle. There are many like it, but this one is mine..." In Country 1969-1971 - Semper Fi.

October 14, 2012, 08:51 AM	#70
Halal Pork Member Join Date: February 6, 2010 Posts: 280	Since I doubt I will ever get rid of at least three pistols chambered in 9mm, leaving was never an option. It has crossed my mind looking at ammo prices to dump my 40s and the ammo I have set aside for them though. If I see $400 for a case of American Eagle from the wholesalers, I'm selling out, taking the profits, and sticking with 9mm and 45 ACP in the pistols category from then on.

October 15, 2012, 10:59 AM	#71
SharpsDressedMan Member Join Date: February 18, 2007 Location: NE Ohio Posts: 5,229	I have certainly re-introduced myself to the 9mm in the last 7-8 years, due to the cost of reloading, and the sheer joy of the multitude of designs and guns in 9mm. Variety is truly spicy. I have 3 Walthers (PPS P99 & P38), 2 CZ75's, 4 Browning/FN Hi Powers, 1 S&W 3914, and a Beretta 92FS. Not bad for a big-bore fan. Some kind of 9mm always goes to the range with bigger guns, and often gets packed, just becuase they are fun. They are all sighted in, I know where they hit, and I can place shots with the best of them. That makes me feel well armed, with a gun and round that still exceeds the old reliable .38 Special. __________________ 1)Beware of the man with only eight rounds.......he MAY be scared enough to make them count! M1 Garand & M1911 2) "What would Genghis Khan do?"

October 15, 2012, 04:35 PM	#72
ponchsox Member Join Date: May 26, 2012 Posts: 52	Never left.

October 15, 2012, 04:37 PM	#73
HoosierQ Member Join Date: March 27, 2008 Location: Central Indiana. Posts: 1,904	Never left it. Got a .45 ACP just to have one but a 9mm will always be my go to gun...that or .38spl. I guess I am old school. __________________ In theory, theory and practice are the same. In practice, they're not.

October 15, 2012, 05:49 PM	#74
Skribs Member Join Date: October 29, 2010 Location: Lakewood, Washington Posts: 5,040	I've tried finding the "perfect" CCW for a while now. I've tried a duty-size and compact-size .40, a pocket .380, and even a 3" 5-shot revolver. I've come to the conclusion that a compact 9 is my favorite, and my current BUG is a compact 9. I'm not sure if I want to replace my primary with another compact or a full-size, but I know it's going to be a double-stack 9 from the M&P line. __________________ What we need are laws that address the problem of violence, which completely disregard the tools being used. This would do more to fix violence (including "gun violence") and less to restrict my rights. Win/win.

October 15, 2012, 07:23 PM	#75
Dnaltrop Member Join Date: February 12, 2010 Location: Portland, Oregon Posts: 1,463	I've shot them many, many, many... (etc etc) times... My wife owns one... I enjoy borrowing my old man's CZ-83, There are a few guns in 9mm that I wouldn't mind owning, albeit after other desires are met. .38/357.. sure! (close, No cigar) I have no outward complaints with the round, or any illusions that proper loads are ineffective. But for myself, I've NEVER been "In" with the 9mm crowd, it seems to be the caliber I skip over immediately in most instances when making such considerations. I either immediately lock on to the nearest .45/38/357 wheelguns, or look at .45 ACP/10mm when considering Semis... or .22/380 when going smaller. To each their own, maybe i'll get that CZ-75, or Calico after finally saving up for the DeLisle. __________________ Men often decieve themselves in believing that by humility, they can overcome insolence. - Machiavelli www.ednf.org