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Old August 11, 2014, 08:54 PM   #1
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Texas proposes alcohol sales at some gun shows

Texas proposes alcohol sales at some gun shows

Surprised no one has reported this yet. Texas is considering allowing alcohol sales at gun shows. What is your opinion?

http://www.myfoxdfw.com/story/262367...some-gun-shows

"AUSTIN, Texas (AP) - A Texas agency wants to allow alcohol sales at gun shows that meet certain requirements, including not allowing live ammunition."
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Old August 11, 2014, 08:58 PM   #2
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Pass. I know it said no live ammunition would be allowed but I'm still gonna pass.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:04 PM   #3
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Why does somebody need alcohol while purchasing a gun? Are there people out there that are so hard up for a buzz that can't wait til they get home to drink?
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:05 PM   #4
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No problem.....

Why not?
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:17 PM   #5
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This kind of reminds me of a thread I seen recently awhile back here on THR regarding the 51% signs and a gun giveaway.

"Texas 51% signs and the presentation of a rifle at an event"

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=747784

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Looking for "ghost guns" which shoot "heat seeking bullets that cook animals" with "more thrusts per squeeze" using "magazines that can only be used once" featuring "the shoulder thing that goes up" and "assault weapons that can be bought at a store without a NICS check".

Moms Demand Action should change their name to Bloomberg Demands Compliance.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:20 PM   #6
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No live ammo at gun shows? Many people I know shop for most of their ammo at gun shows. Sounds like a way to reduce the availability of ammo to shooters.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:21 PM   #7
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I rather have ammo than alcohol at my gun show. Stupid idea
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:24 PM   #8
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Somewhere there must be a gun show without ammo (on purpose?). But I've never heard of that before.

Seems like this would be a VERY small set of shows. Sort of like saying you're allowed to drink and drive on days when no one else leaves their homes.

I'm 100% for the greatest freedoms for the greatest number of people, but this seems like a non-issue.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:27 PM   #9
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Dumb!.....

I've heard the "logic" was to get people sauced so they buy more guns & products at the gun shows.
That's why casinos ply free hooch on the gaming floors. Also why everyone smokes like smoke stacks too, .
I've heard of bad ideas but selling alcoholic beverages near or by guns & ammo is a Hall of Fame bad idea.

Maybe some elected officials or the ATF will be the voice of reason.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:27 PM   #10
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18 yrs ago picked up a 1911 on a private seller at a gunshow. I right away remove the magazine and lo and behold it was loaded with FMJs. I was shocked to say the least . The seller right away got the gun away from me.

Nope i dont want any alcohol . Too much xxx can happen.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:37 PM   #11
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Terrible idea. Alcohol and guns don't mix, ever.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:40 PM   #12
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Oddly enough, I'm pretty sure New York (yes of all places) allowed beer sales at their gun shows. Or at least at the one I went to several times when there.

No, I do not think it's a good idea and thought it extra crazy that New York would think it was ok!
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:46 PM   #13
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Why does somebody need alcohol while purchasing a gun? Are there people out there that are so hard up for a buzz that can't wait til they get home to drink?
Those are my thoughts as well. Guns and alcohol don't mix, ever.
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Old August 11, 2014, 09:51 PM   #14
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No problem.....

Why not?

This is my initial thought.

It should be allowed regardless of the frequency of ND's at gun shows.
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Old August 11, 2014, 10:01 PM   #15
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Why not?

Do you think for a minute everyone that walks in the door at a gun show is sober?
Or not doing drugs in the parking lot before coming right on in?

Years ago, one of the biggest dealers in the huge annual MVAC collector show in KC put away a full case or more of Black Jack Daniels quarts over two days..

By Sunday afternoon, the guy would be too drunk to get up out of his chair to go pee.
So one of his henchmen would help him to the restroom, and help him back to his tables & folding chair.
Right next to his dwindling case of BJD.

But he could still screw you out of a trade, take all your extra money, and make you go away liking it!

Just don't get in his face while haggling over the trade.
His breath would kill flys at 10' feet, outside in the wind!

Never killed anyone that I know of, except himself from drinking.

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Old August 11, 2014, 10:22 PM   #16
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It's no big thing,,,

At the Wannenmacher gun show in Tulsa,,,
And I think all of the gun shows in that pavilion,,,
The snack bar sells draft beer in mugs that look like oil derricks.

When people say "no live ammo",,,
I think they mean no live ammo in your guns.

Even if you have a carry permit,,,
You have to unload your gun at the door,,,
If you want to keep it on your person they will zip-tie it.

The whole thing about guns and alcohol together is a moot point,,,
Both sides can argue their case and change no minds,,,
If you drink or not it's your personal choice.

I say if you can't have a beer or two and still act safely,,,
You probably shouldn't have a gun in the first place.

If it's such a big no-no,,,
Ban pics of guns and bottles of whiskey.

But that would be something Bloomberg would do.

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Old August 11, 2014, 10:26 PM   #17
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I'd rather have some Shiner than the crummy jerky they always have at these things. Even more, I'd prefer they restrict the goods to gun stuff at these things

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Old August 11, 2014, 10:33 PM   #18
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A few years back I and my daughter went to a show about 100 miles from here, as I pulled into the driveway of the event I saw some guys out back shooting ( was outside city limits so I suppose it was legal..... ). I didn't think too much about it until we got to the front door and the guys taking money had a cooler of beer on the floor between them, and I saw more than one vendor drinking also, we made a couple passes through the small show and left without spending a dime as I recall, and as far as I know that particular show has since folded up and gone away.

Selling alcohol at the show wouldn't bug me too much, consuming on the other hand, I will take a pass thank you very much.
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Old August 11, 2014, 11:13 PM   #19
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Do you think for a minute everyone that walks in the door at a gun show is sober?
Or not doing drugs in the parking lot before coming right on in?
So the fact that some people booze up and smoke crack in their cars before going into the show is adequate justification for officially authorizing everyone to get blitzed while handling firearms.

Seems like somewhat shaky logic.

What good can possibly come of it? It's an accident waiting to happen.
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Old August 11, 2014, 11:22 PM   #20
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No need for it. It would just give the anti-gunners more ammo.
Keep alcohol and guns separate.
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Old August 11, 2014, 11:35 PM   #21
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Why does somebody need alcohol while purchasing a gun?
Have you seen the gun prices at a gun show lately? The vendors are pushing the change. Kinda like the free alcohol at casinos. Helps lubricate the wallet.

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Old August 11, 2014, 11:42 PM   #22
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It sounds like a false-controversy to me. I don't see a need for beer at a gun show, but I don't see a problem with it either. You get drunk, they escort you out.
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Old August 11, 2014, 11:50 PM   #23
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no problem from me, we can cc in a bar as long as we do not drink. I see no difference.
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Old August 11, 2014, 11:53 PM   #24
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bobson you gonna get blitzed, why would you think everyone else would?
profound logic.
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Old August 11, 2014, 11:59 PM   #25
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I don't really see a problem with so long as the guns are unloaded. A gun show is for the most part is a chance to gather with other like minded enthusiast and look at some guns that most of us don't get to see everyday.
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