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Old May 7, 2013, 10:47 AM   #1
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Forbes: Why 3D-Printed Untraceable Guns Could Be Good For America

THR readers might enjoy my latest in Forbes:
"Why 3D-Printed Untraceable Guns Could Be Good For America"

In particular, I argue that:

"Wilson’s innovation could thus spark a much-needed re-examination of American gun laws, including the current paradigm of imposing ever-increasing restrictions on millions of honest gun owners in an attempt to stop relatively fewer bad guys from committing gun crimes. By making it harder (if not nearly impossible) for the government to regulate gun possession and transfers, his development could move the government to instead (properly) focus its efforts on punishing gun misuse."
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Old May 7, 2013, 01:01 PM   #2
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It is something that will make a lot of people stand up and notice. I like it.
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Old May 7, 2013, 01:11 PM   #3
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An idea that technology is politics, and politics can mean technology. We need to stand behind this I'm glad I made the fifty buck donation to def dist.
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Old May 7, 2013, 01:16 PM   #4
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I also noticed this morning some of our elected congressional members have started to push for a ban saying they can get through a metal detector with out showing up. Now I don't worry about that as the ammo can't unless someone came up with a lethal plastic bullet because without the ammo all one has is a club at best.
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Old May 7, 2013, 02:43 PM   #5
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I think it unlikely that antis will reevaluate their whole "blame the tool" paradigm.

Much more likely that we'll see an increased effort to restrict access to ammunition and reloading components.
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Old May 9, 2013, 09:13 PM   #6
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Old May 11, 2013, 07:02 PM   #7
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... we'll see an increased effort to restrict access to ammunition and reloading components.
Of that, I have no doubt.
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Old May 11, 2013, 07:28 PM   #8
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Since I have a lathe and a bridgeport out in the garage, I'm wondering what all the fuss is about?

I want to see some good DIY metal working plans for making handguns. Legally.

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Old May 11, 2013, 08:23 PM   #9
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There is this:

http://aresarmor.com/store/Category/hmgar15
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Old May 11, 2013, 10:08 PM   #10
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I seriously don't know what the hype is. I mean you can pick up a die and bend your own AK receiver, get a jig and drill it, get a parts kit and volia... Sure, you gotta stick to the ATF regs...file paperwork...etc

Of course, if I were criminal, I would just pick one up from my friendly neighborhood thug-gun dealer. Much quicker that way.
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Old May 13, 2013, 02:07 PM   #11
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I seriously don't know what the hype is. I mean you can pick up a die and bend your own AK receiver, get a jig and drill it, get a parts kit and volia... Sure, you gotta stick to the ATF regs...file paperwork...etc.
If you build your own, there is no paperwork to be filed. You can put a serial number on it, but you aren't required to.
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Old May 13, 2013, 07:46 PM   #12
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Clutch, check out the Home Gunsmith forum--there's a whole industry for unfinished 1911 receivers at anywhere from 0% raw casting/forging up to 80% (one major machining operation away from a full receiver).
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Old May 13, 2013, 08:21 PM   #13
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I note posters using expressions like "legally" and "stick to the ATF regs". What makes anyone think the crooks are going to worry? Or for that matter that the antis won't make those guns and distribute them to criminals to "prove" the need for more anti-gun laws?

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Old May 13, 2013, 08:42 PM   #14
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Again, this conversation is mired in facts and details. What difference does it make? Gun owner discrimination advocates are pitching this as kids hitting "print" and a "Glock 5000 with five 30 round clips" pops out so they can go shoot up their school. They neither know anything about the subject nor do they care, but for using it as a platform to promote destruction of the Second Amendment.
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Old May 13, 2013, 10:05 PM   #15
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If you build your own, there is no paperwork to be filed. You can put a serial number on it, but you aren't required to.
I didn't realize that until AFTER I posted. I'm kinda surprised that it doesn't even need a serial number. Oh well, I'm too lazy to go through the trouble of getting the AK 80% receiver and doing the rest of the work. Heck, I hardly even shoot 7.62x39 anymore these days so it won't be worth it for me, but it's good to know.
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Old May 16, 2013, 08:14 PM   #16
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Anyone who contributes to the obsolescence of gun laws is a hero in my book.
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Old May 16, 2013, 08:17 PM   #17
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I like it because it moves the discussion to the fringe. Makes everything else seem less worrisome to the zombies. Overton like...
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Old May 16, 2013, 10:04 PM   #18
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i personally do not care about being able to "print" a firearm. i am perfectly happy buying good, solid metal guns, with some wood or plastic furniture attached. what i DO care about is what our lame, uninformed government decides it wants to do about this. our government has a LONG history of punishing the masses for what the few do, or think about doing. i have never been able to understand this concept. with the possibility that it makes them billions of dollars in fine revenues. so many of the laws on the books need to be re-examined, re-written, or discarded it would keep congress busy for decades. but they are happy to blindly continue to erode our freedoms at a staggering pace.
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Old May 17, 2013, 08:56 AM   #19
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I've moved the ATF legal questions to the Legal forum since those discussions aren't about the 2A activism question.

We've always been able to build our own firearms for our own use just like people have been able to build their own vehicles and airplanes and boats, but that fact was little known to even the firearms community and almost completely unknown to those outside of it. The fact that 3D printing has now been used as a form of activism against the Antis is what's new (yes, I know there have been some 80% builders that approached it from that angle as well, but there's a lot more effort in getting the last 20% to the finished firearm).

The idea is supposed to change the entire paradigm so that there's no point to Antis making laws (not that this ever stopped them). Want to disarm the public? You can't if the public can use information on the internet to "print" a receiver and attach the parts to compete a firearm.
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Old May 17, 2013, 09:23 AM   #20
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Nice piece, psh. It is very good to see this on a mainstream, non-gun related news site like Forbes.
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