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Old April 18, 2014, 08:14 AM   #1
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The Swedish Model 94 Carbine

Does anyone know why the Swedes chose to adopt a carbine M94-barrel length 17.7 in -before they adopted a std. length-29 in - infantry rifle M96. My thought is that most countries adopting a Mauser rifle adopted a long infantry rifle first and then a carbine.
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Old April 18, 2014, 01:49 PM   #2
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Swedes are a short people....
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Old April 18, 2014, 02:01 PM   #3
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Calvary carbine.

http://www.swissrifles.com/1893/

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Old April 18, 2014, 02:09 PM   #4
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Probably they just wanted to re-arm their cavalry first; cavalry was seen as the main strike force.

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Old April 18, 2014, 07:08 PM   #5
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Swedes are a short people....
Har, har, but based on their equipment, they are a big people. But then, maybe the only guys allowed guys in the Cavalry were dwarfs and pygmies. To lighten the load on the horses of course.

It is unusual to develop a modern rifle and not issue it to the Infantry first, the Infantry tends to be the quantity buyer, but stranger things have happened.

According to this web site, the Cavalry is still carrying them!

http://www.northwestfirearms.com/thr...e-6-5x55.1450/



Here are some nice pictures of Swedish Mausers:

http://www.gotavapen.se/gota/artikla.../rifles_se.htm

More information:

http://www.northcapepubs.com/swmauser.htm
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Old April 18, 2014, 07:23 PM   #6
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The Swedish military branches ( Cavalry, Infantry and Artillery) all had to compete for funding and supplies.

So the stage was set long before the Model 94 carbine came into being...

Back in 1866 a joint Swedish-Norwegian committee was formed to look for new rifles.
Both countries were under the single crown at the time.
In 1867 they adopted the Remington Rolling Block rifle in 12.17x42mm rimmed.

Later many of these were rebarreled to 8x58mm rimmed for the infantry.

Ten years later they started looking for a replacement rifle and they settled on the Jarman rifle with a Ole Krag designed magazine by the early 1880s. This rifle was chambered for 10.15mm and had a tubular magazine. While it was fully adopted in Norway, and many were also made in Sweden, the Swedes never really liked the Jarmann rifles and they shuffled them around until the early 1890s.

The Swedes were converting older rolling blocks to the slightly better 8x56mm rimmed ( Danish designed) cartridge in an attempt to catch up with the rest of the world. But only their infantry seemed to be issued the improved rifles.

In 1890 and 1891 the Norwegians had another committee working on the design of a military bullet and cartridge. They settled on 6.5mm and the Swedes went along with it.
The 6.5x55mm was a committee designed cartridge that took a few weird turns before being finalized. That is why the case head is slightly different from the Paul Mauser designed cartridges of the same era.

After another round of competitions for a rifle to fire the new cartridge, the Swedes decided to go with the Paul Mauser designed 1894 carbine while the Norwegians went with the Krag rifle in the same chambering.

When it came time to order rifles, it was noted that while the Swedish Infantry was using newly rebarreled Remington 1867/89 rolling blocks chambered for 8x56mm,,, the Swedish cavalry was still stuck with aging model 1870 rolling blocks which were using the 12.17x42mm Rimmed ( RIM FIRE ) cartridge.
So they pitched a bitch and managed to have the first load of the new rifles be made in carbine form for them.


The order was approved around August 1894 as the m/94 carbine.
The Paul Mauser rifle works then built the first 12,185 carbines between July 1895 and Feb 1896.

Later production for even more carbines was moved to Sweden where over another 114,000 were made.

Eventually the m/94 carbine was issued to the Cavalry, Artillery, Train Troops, The Navy, The Swedish Marines and Coastal Artillery units. There were also carbines called Fortress Carbines, Engineer Carbines and School Carbines.


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The much longer model 96 rifle actually started out as the model 1892 Trails rifle. Followed by the design of 1895 Army test rifle.

The final long Infantry rifle design was adopted in March 1896 as the model 96 rifle.

Licensed production of the longer model 96 began in Sweden at the Carl Gustafs factory in Eskilstuna in 1898. The factory had been originally set up to continued making m/94 carbines and of course the planned m/96 rifle.

The Paul Mauser company also made 38,600 m/96 rifles as part of a contract deal during 1899 and 1900. They were late in transferring equipment to the Swedes and they smoothed things over by making rifles.



A few Model 94-14 carbines ( the 1914 bayonet attach lug alteration made them 94-14s ) are still used by the Royal Ceremonial Guard in Sweden. They carry them locked, cocked and fully loaded.
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Old April 18, 2014, 07:30 PM   #7
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It's my understanding that the 1894 carbine went first because the initial contract with Mauser was for a mere 12,000 carbines, which, if they were satisfactory, would be folllowed by 40,000 1896 rifles that used the same mechanism. If the whole run was acceptable, domestic production would follow - which it did!
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Old April 20, 2014, 08:54 PM   #8
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Thank You!
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Old April 20, 2014, 10:12 PM   #9
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I have a 1906 manufactured M94s that was one of the 1958 Interarms imports with the DOM defaced and the 1" barrel extension. It was put in a Fajen stock, sporterized, and fitted for scope mounts long before I bought it. No historical value now but it is very accurate, easy to shoot and like 123 grs VLDs, 140 grs Spitzers and 160 RN equally.
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Old April 21, 2014, 12:45 AM   #10
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I have an original 94 with the barrel extension, most parts matching. Outstanding carbine.
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Old April 21, 2014, 07:24 AM   #11
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here are three of my favorite swedish rifles,a 1912 matching 1896,a 1944 matching m-38 and a 1904 matching 04/14 carbine with bayonets and slings. the quality of these rifles is top notch. eastbank.
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