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Old August 21, 2014, 10:43 PM   #1
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ArmaLite sneaks out an "Economy" model?

It looks like ArmaLite has a "new" economy AR line called the Defender. I haven't seen it on their website yet. Perhaps, it is due to SAC owning them, the low priced AR market, or both.

Defender AR10
http://www.fountainfirearms.us/produ...r-76216-1-20rd

Defender M15
http://www.fountainfirearms.us/produ...d-optics-ready
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...+15+A2+223+BLK

I haven't seen any details of the guns yet, but I'd guess they don't come with the two-stage triggers or some other features the slightly more expensive models have.

I guess SAC and ArmaLite are intending to try and stay in the AR business.
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Old August 21, 2014, 11:03 PM   #2
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I wish the pictures showed the other side to see if it was like the s&w sport with no dust cover or fa.
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Old August 22, 2014, 01:53 AM   #3
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Cheaper Than Dirt has specs, but no RH side picture, and no details on dust cover or forward assist. The left hand side only pictures do raise suspicion. CTD list the specs as:
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ArmaLite Defender 15 Semi Auto Rifle DEF15F
5.56mm NATO (accepts .223 Remington)
16" Double Lapped, Chrome Lined, Chrome Moly Vanadium MIL-B-11595-E Barrel
With M203 Step down
1:7" Right hand twist
Threaded 1/2x28
Flash suppressor muzzle device
A2 Fixed front sight tower/gas block
7075-T6 Aluminum Flat Top Upper Receiver
7075-T6 Aluminum Lower Receiver
Single Stage Trigger
Polymer handguards
A2 pistol grip
Collapsible stock
30 round magazine
Anodized upper and lower receiver
Manganese phosphated steel barrel
Overall Length: 32" Collapsed / 35.25" Extended
Overall Weight: 6.35 lbs
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Old August 22, 2014, 11:23 AM   #4
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Those specs don't look too bad -- it's got a good barrel on it at least. No idea on the bolt and carrier though.
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Old August 22, 2014, 11:55 AM   #5
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While I never considered Armalite to be top notch, I did like their commitment to chrome lined barrels and chambers, and overall quality and selection. But if they are going cheap now , I would just as soon pick a delton with its hpt/mpi marked BCG and 1" accuracy (observed)
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Old August 22, 2014, 07:03 PM   #6
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if they are going cheap now
They still have their other rifles on the ArmaLite website. I'd guess they would keep making many of them as well as this new "Defender" line.

Since ArmaLite has such a dated website, I wonder if a new one is in the works. If so, perhaps they will show the Defenders on it with the other models.
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Old August 22, 2014, 08:24 PM   #7
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I purchased ArmaLite's previous econo-model, the LEC15A4CBK, $930 couple of years ago.

http://www.armalite.com/ItemForm.asp...f-df84e8fd90f4

It spec's just like one of those Defenders with the exception of having a 1:9 twist.

It has been a very good AR. Accurate, completely trouble free.

My only complaint being that the phosphate finish is easily scratched. But I do not mind, being that it is a econo-AR and sees a lot of use at the borrow pit.
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Old August 22, 2014, 08:33 PM   #8
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I purchased ArmaLite's previous econo-model, the LEC15A4CBK, $930 couple of years ago.

It spec's just like one of those Defenders with the exception of having a 1:9 twist.
Plus yours probably has the "tactical" two-stage trigger vs. the Defender showing specs with a single stage trigger.

My ArmaLite is very similar to yours and has that two stage trigger as well, but it is a mid-length gas gun.
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Old August 23, 2014, 07:15 PM   #9
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I think the increasing popularity of the S&W M&P Sport is forcing other AR makers to consider releasing economy models
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Old August 25, 2014, 01:58 AM   #10
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I'll bet the reason they don't have right-hand pictures yet is probably the same reason they don't have it on their site yet.
I bet they will, but for now they're using receivers that are left over from other runs, have a blemish they could mostly cover up, or out-of-spec finishes.
At least in some other industries, that's kind of par for the course when they first introduce economy models. As long as it still works fine, they tend to use up the 'seconds' bin first.
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