Black political leaders discuss how the NRA was created

[Buzzard II]

From the castboolits forum:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=9RABZq5IoaQ

[hso]

How do we put this to use? "FYI"s are interesting, but the purpose of this forum is to provide clear implementable plans for other members to put to use.

I think the least we can do is to link this and other videos that break the Anti stereotype about 2A supporters. Include the Sheriffs' video to show LE support 2A. Include articulate young people, women, artists, ...

http://www.urbancure.org/mbarticle.a...st-gun-control
http://www.urbancure.org/mbarticle.a...cond-Amendment
http://www.urbancure.org/mbarticle.a...ve-black-lives

[Ryanxia]

That's a great idea HSO. Make sure everyone knows there are all forms of gun owners; moms, dads, veterans, minorities, etc.

[RustHunter87]

every American should watch this ,that last speaker really hit the nail on the head

[ThorinNNY]

Wonderful message! How do we get it to the people who REAALLY need to see it?

[Twmaster]

Old news here.

http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=707956

[theshephard]

I know this is old news, but since it hasn't been mentioned I think I should point it out:

I believe this recounting of the NRA's history is inaccurate as told in this video.

I'd really, sincerely appreciate someone correcting me on this. My understanding is that the NRA was started earlier than the instances cited, specifically by two union soldiers upset at the lack of Northern aptitude at reconciling POA & POI.

It's true that some local chapters were organized for the reason he states and that the national organization chartered those local organizations, but the NRA as a national organization wasn't started for these reasons, AFAIK.

The NRA can and should rightly take credit for their involvement in helping freed slaves defend themselves from the KKK, but it's important to qualify this video up front with an acknowledgement that the history isn't quite accurate. Being honest and upfront about this avoids putting us in the position of losing credibility for promoting something that isn't historically accurate and thus distracting from the truly valuable substance of what's discussed.

Again, I'd really like it if someone more knowledgeable on this would correct me. Don't hate - just posting this in the spirit of helping improve our strength of representation and argument.

[kwguy]

It's not the NRA making that statement, but those individuals.

It may be a case of them talking about the NRA from their particular perspective and context (local chapters, being chartered by the national organization) and not simply being concerned about when the 'national organization' actually formed.

Either way, that's a powerful statement, and since it flies in the face of the MSM, and reinforces the NRA as a positive organization, it'll never make 'prime time'. But I hope more people see it.

[Prophet]

theshepard, I've been doing a lot of research on this lately. Here's something I came across that may or may not be of value to the conversation. It concerns the rifle club that was created by civil rights activist Robert Franklin Williams and chartered by the NRA.

http://docsouth.unc.edu/sohp/K-0266/...erpt_8789.html

DAVID CECELSKI:What did the rifle club do?
MABEL WILLIAMS: We practiced shooting. We were all members. I was a member as well. We taught the kids how to shoot. We'd—we got our charter. We'd have our little meetings. And that was the backbone of our defense group.

DAVID CECELSKI: And it was like a NRA type thing.
MABEL WILLIAMS: It was affiliated. It was a branch of the National Rifle Association.

DAVID CECELSKI: That [unclear] to white people.

MABEL WILLIAMS: They didn't know for sure because when Robert sent off for the charter he had himself as an author. He had Dr. Perry as a doctor. He had some of the—. Oh, he had one of our officers, McDowell, as a businessman. He had, I think, the women he put down housewives. And he put construction, contractor for the construction workers. And we got our first charter like that. And it's really fun. The year that Rob passed away, the National Rifle Association wanted him to come to Texas to speak about how we survived in the south with guns.

DAVID CECELSKI: [unclear] to do it.

MABEL WILLIAMS: He was going to but his cancer got the better of him and he was unable to go. But he sent a message to them, which they read. And I have a tape that they—. At their anniversary celebration they talked about Robert Williams and how his rifle club allowed them to survive in the racist state of North Carolina. [Laughter]

DAVID CECELSKI: I bet it did.

MABEL WILLIAMS: Oh yeah. And we were just tickled to death that they did that.

DAVID CECELSKI: I like that.

MABEL WILLIAMS: I'm sure when we joined and the years after then, had they known we were a black group, they would have revoked our charter.

DAVID CECELSKI: I think they would have too.

MABEL WILLIAMS: I'm sure they would have. But in the later years when they were under such attack for guns, they came up with the fact that they were proud of the fact that, "Well, if it hadn't been for guns in North Carolina, that man would have been dead", you know. [Laughter]

DAVID CECELSKI: That's great.

MABEL WILLIAMS: "If he hadn't been affiliated with the rifle association." [Laughter] And that's true. But the ironic part that I want people to know is that although we had an association with guns, we knew how to use guns. We trained other people how to use guns, our children included. We never had the occasion to have to shoot anybody. And that if, you know. That's remarkable because a lot of people, when they think about having guns, they think about killing folks. And Robert always—. He was the ultimate teacher, always. He always taught the other people and us that a gun is a weapon that can do terrible damage to people. And the only reason you would ever pick up a gun is for self-defense and not for anything aggressive or not to scare off anybody, and not to play with anybody. But it was serious business when you really had to pick up a gun.

I'd love to read the letter Robert Franklin Williams sent to the NRA.

[FourTeeFive]

More reading on this subject:

http://constitution.org/cmt/cramer/racist_roots.htm

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/...f-guns/308608/

[Hunt480]

Bump!