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Old September 11, 2014, 08:13 PM   #1
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WST for handgun... recommendations?

I found a couple pounds of this stuff .... what's the best place to put it to good use?
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Old September 11, 2014, 08:18 PM   #2
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I like it for light loads in .38 Spl & .357 with 158 Gr bullets. It also works well for light loads in .45 ACP.

It should also work well for other applications. It's good stuff IMO. Competition is a close cousin to it.
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Old September 11, 2014, 08:36 PM   #3
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I use it in .45 ACP and 9mm for range/competition loads.
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Old September 11, 2014, 09:55 PM   #4
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45 Auto, 200 gr. and 230 gr. cast, and 185 gr. plated.

40 S&W, 180 gr. cast.

All with good or very good accuracy.
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Old September 11, 2014, 10:15 PM   #5
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45 AUTO, Cast 200 gr SWC in my WAD GUN it works really well (WST)
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Old September 11, 2014, 11:29 PM   #6
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I have used it 38 spcl, 40 S&W, 45 ACP and 9MM. Note, there is no current published load data for 9MM.
It works well, meters well and I'm sorry to have split the 8 #s I picked up last year with a buddy. I already used up all I had and am trying to buy back his 4#s.
If I see 8#s again, I won't hesitate.
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Old September 12, 2014, 02:36 AM   #7
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Thanks!
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Old September 12, 2014, 03:02 AM   #8
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I have loaded it in 45 acp, 38 special, and 45 colt. I still prefer AA#2 in 45 acp or 38 special but WST is the only powder I use for my lightly loaded 45 colts.

I like to use a Missouri Bullet 200gr RNFP loaded over 5.4gr of WST with any std LPP. Very accurate and very low recoil.
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Old September 12, 2014, 03:29 AM   #9
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Excellent choice for 45acp. Extremely accurate in my 45s
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Old September 12, 2014, 04:16 AM   #10
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I guess I did better than I thought.

I picked up 4lbs in a local Reloading Club group by, intending to use it for my IDPA 9mm loads.

I guessing I could use it for my 38spl loads to make 700fps with my 158gr SWCs too
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Old September 12, 2014, 07:29 AM   #11
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There are some folks on the Brian Enos site using WST in 9. That's part of the load data ideas that I worked up. It works better in the heavier, 124 and up, loads.
It's a nice load at 3.3 - 3.5 in 38 Spcl. I haven't chronoed them, but very pleasant to shoot even in snubbies. Accurate too!
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Old September 12, 2014, 07:36 AM   #12
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Gents I also hit upon a bonanza of 8lbs on Wednesday. Walked into our local reloading shop who "hasn't had much" recently he says (other than the 4lbs of VV N320 I bought last month!).

Anyway, I remember reading about WST in some 45 acp threads and there were 4 8lb jugs. I thought hmmm the way things are I better take a chance (cost $169). Reading all these threads it turns out I couldn't have made a better decision. It's exactly what I want, a soft shooting target load for 38 and 45.

Now I can breathe easier though I am fortunate to have bought some N310 just before it became completely unavailable and now have N320 as well. The N320 was very expensive $36 a pound. But made up for it because he sells CCI primers for $27.99 per K when you buy a 5K case and I bought a couple. Others around here charge $33 to $37 per k.
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Old September 12, 2014, 07:58 AM   #13
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WST is popular with match shooters.

Must be fate match shooters 9mmepiphany/1KPerDay/Chiltech500 all finding WST during current pistol powder shortage.
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Old September 12, 2014, 08:18 AM   #14
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It's very good for .38 spl target loads and for soft-shooting .40 S&W light to medium loads. It meters well, too. You scored.
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Old September 12, 2014, 10:24 AM   #15
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Heck, then I need the gods of fate to smile on me -- I wouldn't mind getting another couple of 8 pounders.
At $169 retail it's not GREAT, but it's not bad. Not bad at all.
I was a little leery at first about it in 9mm given the lack of published data, but worked it up using some web data guidelines and have been very pleased.
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Old September 12, 2014, 10:30 AM   #16
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Heck, then I need the gods of fate to smile on me
I will pray for you to Winchester/Olin, the god of WST.
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Old September 12, 2014, 12:32 PM   #17
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Cool. I'll try it out in .38 Special with Xtreme 158s... I haven't really found a load I LOVE with that combo yet. Thanks again all!
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Old September 12, 2014, 01:10 PM   #18
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Damn 1K, you're really scoring lately. You must be livin' right, or went to mass, or something!



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Must be fate match shooters 9mmepiphany/1KPerDay/Chiltech500 all finding WST during current pistol powder shortage
For real! I might join up. At least til I can score some powder-
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Old September 12, 2014, 01:22 PM   #19
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I've used more WST than any of my other pistol powders for 45 Auto. It meters great for me. IMO, it's great for target loads and burns cleaner at lower pressure than many other powders. I've used it in 40 as well, with good success with lead.
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Old September 12, 2014, 01:42 PM   #20
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Damn 1K, you're really scoring lately. You must be livin' right, or went to mass, or something!
Well, if you check 3 shops 5 times a week for a year and a half sometimes you get lucky.

I should figure the cost of time and gas into the cost of my reloads... probably cheaper to buy factory. LOL

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I've used it in 40 as well, with good success with lead.
That's good to hear... I don't really have "a good .40 powder" ATM.
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Old September 12, 2014, 02:06 PM   #21
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Oh ye gods of reloading, oh mighty Winchester, oh mighty Olin!!!! -- nice!!!
Please hear this humble supplicant's prayers, rain on me your mercy and bevy of powders!
WST, W231, any will do!

1K - yeah, it was good in 40 as well.
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Old September 12, 2014, 02:06 PM   #22
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I use WST for my main powder in the 45acp. This powder burns so clean at BE loads it's amazing. The load I use is 4.1 gr behind MBC 185gr LSWC BE#2 bullet. Note: Min load posted by Hodgdon's is 4.4gr. The 4.1 gr works fine in my 1911 with the std 16# RS and 23# HS. I use 4.2 for the 200gr LSWC BE#1 from MBC. If I'm shooting Berry's plated I'm at 4.6-4.8gr with the 185gr HBRN.

These are very soft accurate BE shooting loads. Great for just punching holes in paper.
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Old September 12, 2014, 02:07 PM   #23
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I'll try it out in .38 Special with Xtreme 158s..
I use it with the X-Treme 158 Gr SWC loaded to the cannelure with a light taper crimp. Somewhere around 3.7 to 3.9 Grs should do the trick. I couldn't find any either, so I bought some Competition, which is nearly the same thing. Extremely similar. My first pound of Competition was .1 Gr faster than my two pounds of WST.
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Old September 12, 2014, 02:16 PM   #24
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who makes Competition? Hodgdon?
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Old September 12, 2014, 02:39 PM   #25
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Wow, now I'm thinking I better be at his shop tomorrow when he opens to see if he still has any 8lb jugs. Maybe I should buy another. If it's too much down the road I could always share.
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