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Old Yesterday, 01:10 PM   #1
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Why no other auto index turret presses?

Just a thought. Why are there no other auto index turret press other than LEE?

Have used the LEE for years and very happy with it. Why doesn't say, RCBS or Hornaday make one? The Blue guys of course wouldn't as they make Machines

Just visualizing a heavy duty RCBS Auto Turret. It would awesome
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Old Yesterday, 01:22 PM   #2
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Yea i wonder that kind of stuff sometimes. Also does RCBS make a progressive (surely)? I never hear anything about any of them. I just hear loadmaster this and 550,650,1050, that.
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Old Yesterday, 01:26 PM   #3
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https://shop.rcbs.com/WebConnect/Mai...&route=C04J147

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Old Yesterday, 01:29 PM   #4
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RCs back!!! I guess the rumors of your death were greatly exaggerated!

Wow, expensive. I see why i never hear anything about them.
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Old Yesterday, 01:33 PM   #5
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That's retail, you can get them for less.
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Old Yesterday, 01:34 PM   #6
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I don't know of any other auto-index turret presses besides Lee. Maybe they have a patent? Or nobody else sees worthwhile profit in them to tool up? I dunno.

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Yea i wonder that kind of stuff sometimes. Also does RCBS make a progressive (surely)? I never hear anything about any of them.
Yep. It's called the Pro 2000. A number of us here on THR have one. A forum search will turn up quite a few mentions.
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Old Yesterday, 01:52 PM   #7
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Yep. It's called the Pro 2000. A number of us here on THR have one. A forum search will turn up quite a few mentions.
Gotcha. Figured they had to make one or more, just seems like I dont see them mentioned as much. Maybe they have little or no problems. Back on topic, sorry.
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Old Yesterday, 01:56 PM   #8
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Yea i wonder that kind of stuff sometimes. Also does RCBS make a progressive (surely)? I never hear anything about any of them. I just hear loadmaster this and 550,650,1050, that.
And do not forget the Hornady L-N-L.

Personally, I can't see any advantage to any turret press but will agree different strokes for different folks.
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Old Yesterday, 01:59 PM   #9
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The write up says you manually index it, the Pro 2000. Is there a version with auto indexing?
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Yea, it is the same number of pulls. But swapping out a turret is sho' nice! I go 380 to 223 in the blink of an eye with no adjustments necessary. I guess maybe some bushing systems allow that on an SS also. (?)


This was in reference to cfullgraf
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Of course, the advantage to a turret press (not particularly auto index) is making ammo at 4 or 5 times the speed.
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Old Yesterday, 02:07 PM   #12
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How quickly threads derail. Turret Presses not Progressive. yes RCBS make a fine progressive.

Auto Index TURRET was the question. So either LEE has a really good patent or the big names do not feel the need or could not make money on one??
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Old Yesterday, 02:12 PM   #13
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Sorry Rule, that was my fault. Im on topic or nothing from here out.
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Old Yesterday, 02:23 PM   #14
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The main advantage I found with my Lee turret was you could set up a turret for one rifle caliber, not auto index, and it was like having 3 or 4 S/S presses set up to load in stages. Size and decap all the cases, (I then primed off press), turn the turret one notch and charge all the cases, turn the turret another notch and seat all the bullets. One more slot is available if you want to crimp.

As for auto indexing on a Lee turret, it's the same as running one case at a time through an auto-indexing progressive press. I like progressive for pistol loading. One pull on the handle, one finished cartridge.

Potatohead, the Pro 2000 comes in 2 versions, manual index and auto index. And the die heads are changeable, like the Lee turret.
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As for auto indexing on a Lee turret, it's the same as running one case at a time through an auto-indexing progressive press. I like progressive for pistol loading. One pull on the handle, one finished cartridge.

Potatohead, the Pro 2000 comes in 2 versions, manual index and auto index. And the die heads are changeable, like the Lee turret.
Exactly. If you want to run one casing through at a time get a progressive and just don't load up the shellplate. I have to assume that's exactly why RCBS, Hornady, and Dillon don't bother making an auto-indexing turret. To me ere are 2 advantages that turret presses have. One being that you can set up a turret for one particular caliber/load and not have to mess with die settings. The other advantage is that you can run it as a single stage and batch process everything if you're new to reloading and once you get the process figured out you can make ammo quicker than on a single stage. A progressive press has the same advantages, but at a higher cost and probably more anxiety to a new reloader.

I keep considering getting a Lee turret for the rifle calibers that I don't load enough of to justify setting up my LNL for, but enough of to make it a slow task on a single stage. 8x57, .30-06, and .303Brit being those calibers.
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I believe the Dillon square deal is auto index.
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Old Yesterday, 04:58 PM   #17
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Auto Index, I have two RCBS progressive presses that have one way clutches.

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Just visualizing a heavy duty RCBS Auto Turret.
I have turret presses with movable/indexing turrets. On all of my progressive presses the shell plate rotates.

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Old Yesterday, 05:04 PM   #18
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Sorry Rule, that was my fault. Im on topic or nothing from here out.
No problem Potato Appears it is too complex anyway

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Old Yesterday, 05:31 PM   #19
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SEARCH Auto indexing. I have aT-7 Turret and a SDB_Dillion, There will be all kinds of input on this great cite! When you research! Good Luck
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Old Yesterday, 06:58 PM   #20
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Good grief. The T7 is not auto indexing. The Dillon SD is a Progressive press.

If the T7 turned by itself each stroke , then that is what I am asking about,

As I said never mind.
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Old Yesterday, 08:36 PM   #21
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I have a Lee turret press. The thing I like, as mentioned, is that you have a choice of being in single stage mode, or not. So, I load center fire rifle as single stage (remove index bar) and load pistol calibers with the index bar in and turret turning automatically. I like the versatility and being able to change calibers quickly. I do wish some of the other manufacturers made one though. If anyone does, I've never seen it.
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Old Yesterday, 09:59 PM   #22
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The Dillon SDB is listed as a "Square Deal B Auto-Indexing Reloader" and also as a "4 Station Progressive Loader ". Straight from Dillon, yes I have a SDB. And the shell plate does rotate on its own with every pull of the handle.

pro·gres·sive


/prəˈgresiv/


adjective: progressive

1. happening or developing gradually or in stages; proceeding step by step.
"a progressive decline in popularity"


synonyms: continuing, continuous, increasing, growing, developing, ongoing, accelerating, escalating;

automatic indexing
The procedure for determining the orientation and position of a workpiece with respect to an automatically controlled machine, such as a robot manipulator, that is to perform an operation on it.

Many of the reloading presses are progressive, but not all are auto-index capable.

The Dillon SDB does both, so yes there are more reloading presses out there that have auto index capability.
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Old Yesterday, 10:03 PM   #23
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The benefit of the LEE Classic Turret Press is compromise. It will single stage load well. It will load pistol rounds faster than a single stage. It's relatively inexpensive.
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rcmodel - back

So glad to see your post again ! You have helped me so much . Glad you are back !
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