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Old July 25, 2013, 11:09 PM   #1276
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Either that or the fact they got in 12,000,000 small pistol primers. even at max order of 20k a person, you are looking at 600 orders. Im glad I got my order in as im using up the rest of my small primers tonight.
2 months ago they sold 10 mil within an hour with a limit of 10k per order.

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Old July 26, 2013, 12:52 PM   #1277
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Murph11680 - Third Generation Shooting Supply has Unique, Power Pistol, and Reloader 22 in stock along with some others.
Excellent! Now I can stop working around a lack of Unique. I have most of a pound, but saw no point in committing to something with no prospect of continuity. An 8 pounder was shipped the same day.

I also bought 2400 and PowerPro 300-MP in enough quantity to feel like they could become mainstays rather than random one pounders found here and there. At the same time, I didn't have to commit the investment in an 8 pounder on anything but the Unique.
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Old July 26, 2013, 01:36 PM   #1278
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Finally some Unique! Thanks so much for everyone's efforts on this thread!
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Old July 27, 2013, 10:48 AM   #1279
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In re post 1268, and the 2 week processing time for Rocky Mountain Reloading....They were in my mail box by that time, so dont fret anyone,very quick!

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Old July 27, 2013, 11:07 AM   #1280
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Check posts #1239, #1243, #1247, #1250, #1256, #1259, #1260, #1262, #1263, #1268 and #1269 for other reloading components/equipment in stock.


MidwayUSA:

CCI Small Rifle Military Primers #41 5000 / $195.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/316...-boxes-of-1000


3rd Generation Shooting Supply still has some Unique left if you are looking for some.

Federal Small Pistol Magnum primers 1000 / $27.39 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/4,4960.html

Federal Small Pistol Match primers 1000 / $34.29 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/4,4622.html

Winchester Small Pistol primers 1000 / $34.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/4,5980.html

Winchester Small Pistol Magnum primers 1000 / $37.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/4,4433.html

Winchester Large Rifle primers 1000 / $34.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/4,7431.html


Alliant Red Dot 1 lb/$16.99, 8 lbs/$113.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3625.html

Alliant Promo 8 lbs / $95.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3624.html

Alliant Green Dot 1 lb/$16.99, 8 lbs/$113.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3621.html

Alliant American Select 8 lbs / $113.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3616.html

Alliant Herco 1 lb/$16.99, 8 lbs/$113.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3622.html

Alliant Unique 8 lbs / $113.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3633.html

Alliant Power Pro 300 MP 1 lb/$16.99, 8 lbs/$123.39 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,5239.html

Alliant Reloder 7 1 lb /$20.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3631.html

Alliant Reloder 17 1 lb / $20.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,4537.html

Alliant Power Pro 2000 MR 8 lbs / $136.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,5238.html

Alliant Power Pro 4000-MR 1 lb/$19.99, 8 lbs/$136.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,5240.html


Hodgdon H414 1 lb/$19.99, 8 lbs/$141.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3643.html

Hodgdon HS-6 8 lbs / $142.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3652.html

Hodgdon Long Shot 1 lb/$18.99, 4 lbs/$71.99, 8 lbs/$138.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3657.html

Hodgdon Leverevolution 8 lbs / $143.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,5894.html

Hodgdon Superformance 1 lb/$19.99, 8 lbs/$143.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,5895.html

Hodgdon US869 1 lb/$19.99, 8 lbs/$145.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3661.html


IMR SR4756 1 lb/$20.99, 8 lbs/$143.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3679.html

IMR 3031 1 lb/$21.99, 8 lbs/$153.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3668.html

IMR 4007 SSC 1 lb/$21.99, 8 lbs/$153.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3665.html

IMR 4198 1 lb/$21.99, 8 lbs/$153.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3670.html

IMR 4227 1 lb/$21.99, 8 lbs/$153.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3671.html

IMR 4320 1 lb/$20.99, 8 lbs/$153.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3672.html

IMR 4350 8 lbs/$153.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3673.html

IMR 7828 1 lb/$21.99, 8 lbs/$153.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3676.html

IMR 7828 SSC 1 lb / $21.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3677.html


Winchester WST 1 lb/$18.99, 8 lbs/$128.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3691.html

Winchester 760 1 lb/$20.99, 8 lbs/$146.99 - http://store.thirdgenerationshooting...fm/2,3687.html

Winchester 780 1 lb/$20.99, 8 lbs/$145.99 -http://store.thirdgenerationshootingsupply.com/browse.cfm/2,4486.html


Powder Valley still has Tula primers in stock - http://www.powdervalleyinc.com/

- TULA SMALL PISTOL PRIMERS 1000 / $23.50
- TULA LARGE RIFLE MAGNUM PRIMERS 1000 / $30.00
- TULA BERDAN 7.62X39 PRIMERS 1000 / $25.00
- TULA BERDAN 7.62 NATO PRIMER 1000 / $33.00

- ACCURATE 4100 - 1 LB/$18.35, 8 LBS/$131.50
- ACCURATE LT-32 - 1 LB/$24.10, 8 LBS/$182
- ACCURATE 2015 - 8 LBS / $157
- ACCURATE 2700 - 1 LB/$19.25, 8 LBS/$138
- ACCURATE 4350 - 8 LBS / $157
- ACCURATE 5744 - 1 LB/$24.85, 8 LBS/$185

- ALLIANT RED DOT - 8 LBS / $106.80
- ALLIANT PROMO - 8 LBS / $90.50
- ALLIANT GREEN DOT - 1 LB/$15.65, 8 LBS/$106.80
- ALLIANT HERCO - 8 LBS / $106.80
- ALLIANT POWER PRO 300 MP - 8 LBS / $109.50
- ALLIANT POWER PRO 2000 MR - 8 LBS / $129.25
- ALLIANT POWER PRO 4000 MR - 1LB/$18.10, 8 LB/$129.25

- HODGDON LONGSHOT - 1 LB/$18.05, 4 LBS/$69.35
- HODGDON H414 - 8 LBS / $136.35
- HODGDON U.S. 869 - 1 LB/$19.25, 8 LBS/$140.40

- IMR 800X - 1 LB / $16.50
- IMR 4007SSC - 1 LB / $20.60, 8 LBS/$147.80
- IMR 4227 - 8 LBS / $147.80
- IMR 4831 - 8 LBS / $147.80
- IMR 7828 - 1 LB/$20.60, 8 LBS/$147.80
- IMR 7828 SSC - 1 LB / $20.60

- Ramshot ZIP - 1 LB / $18.10

- VIHTAVUORI 20N29 - 8 LBS / $222
- VIHTAVUORI N160 - 1 LB / $29.15
- VIHTAVUORI N540 - 1 LB / $33.50
- VIHTAVUORI N550 - 1 LB / $33.50

- .224 55 gr Hornady FMJ-BT W/C 500 / $50
- 7.62x39 123 gr Winchester PP 100/$24.40, 500/$117, 1000/$230, 2000/$450
- .308 155 gr Nosler HPBT 100/$27.44, 250/$65.84
- .308 168 gr Nosler HPBT 100 / $27.44, 250/$65.84
- .308 175 gr HPBT (seconds) 500 / $115.95 (Click on "Specials" tab)

- 9MM .355 115 gr Hornady FMJ-RN 100 / $14.93
- 9MM .355 115 gr Nosler JHP 250 / $35.63
- 38 .357 125 gr Hornady FP/XTP 100 / $15.55
- 38 .357 140 gr Hornady HP/XTP 100 / $17.55
- 40/10 .400 135 gr Nosler JHP 250 / $37.66
- 40/10 .400 150 gr Nosler JHP 250 / $38.29
- 45 .451 185 gr Hornady SWC TAR 500 / $91.23
- .45 185 gr Sierra JHP Sports Master 100 / $22.65
- .45 200 gr Sierra FPJ Match Sports Master 100 / $23.92
- .45 230 gr Sierra FMJ Match Tournament Master 100 / $24.20

Berry's plated bullets:

32 (.312) 83 GR HBWC 250 / $19.13

9MM (.356) 115 GR FP 1000 / $71.35
9MM (.356) 115 GR RN 1000 / $74.14

.38/357 (.357) 125 GR FP 250/$23.88, 1000/$80.54
.38/357 (.357) 148 GR HBWC 250 / $27.34
.38/357 (.357) 148 GR DEWC 250/$27.34, 1000/$92.17
.38/357 (.357) 158 GR FP 1000 / $97.14

40/10MM (.401) 155 GR FP 250/$30.63, 1000/$103.23
40/10MM (.401) 155 GR HPFP 250/$30.26, 1000/$103.27
40/10MM (.401) 155 GR HBRN 250 / $31.68
40/10MM (.401) 155 GR RS 250/$29.39
40/10MM (.401) 165 GR FP 250/$31.44, 1000/$105.71
40/10MM (.401) 165 GR HBFP-TP 250/$35.64, 1000/$119.89
40/10MM (.401) 180 GR HP 1000/$109.62
40/10MM (.401) 180 GR FP 1000 / $106.12
40/10MM (.401) 180 GR RN 250 / $31.79
40/10MM (.401) 180 GR RS 250/$33.30, 1000/$106.12

.41 (.410) 210 GR FP 250/$36.31, 500/$63.33
.44 (.429) 240 GR FP 200/$34.11, 500/$70.79

.45 (.452) 185 GR FP 250/$33.36, 500/$56.12
.45 (.452) 185 GR HBRN 250/$35.25, 500/$57.59
.45 (.452) 185 GR SWC 500 / $55.76
.45 (.452) 200 GR FP 500 / $59.35
.45 (.452) 200 GR SWC 500 / $58.91
.45 (.452) 230 GR RN 500 / $61.81

Tumbling media (Click on - Maintenance > PVI):

- Ground Corn 5 lbs/$4.50, 20 lbs/$12, 40 lbs/$18
- Crushed Walnut 5 lbs/$6, 25 lbs/$17, 50 lbs/$26

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Old July 27, 2013, 11:53 AM   #1281
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Natchez Shooters Supplies:

22LR 40 gr Federal Champion Target Solid 325 / $18.99 - http://www.natchezss.com/Ammo.cfm?co...olid%20325/Box

CCI Large Pistol Magnum Primers 1000 / $39.49 - http://www.natchezss.com/Category.cf...ers%201000/box


Midsouth Shooters Supplies:

Sellier & Bellot Small Pistol Primer 1000 / $33.54 - http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...ku=00283SBPRSP

Sellier & Bellot Large Rifle Primer 1000 / $33.54 - http://www.midsouthshooterssupply.co...ku=00283SBPRLR


Widener's Reloading and Shooting Supply:

CCI Large Pistol Magnum primers $185 / 5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|316

CCI Small Rifle primers APS $195 / 5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|316

CCI Small Rifle Magnum primers APS $205 / 5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|316

CCI Large Rifle primers APS $195 / 5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|316

Federal Large Pistol Magnum primers $180 / 5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|317

Federal Large Pistol Magnum Match primers $210 / 5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|317

Federal Small Rifle AR Match Primers $240 / 5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|284|317

Sellier & Bellot Large Rifle Magnum primer $32/1000, $145/5000 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...r=278|284|1589

Accurate 2700 1lb $20 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307
Accurate 2700 8lb $145 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307

Accurate 4100 1lb $19.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307
Accurate 4100 4lb $74.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307
Accurate 4100 8lb $138.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307

Accurate 4350 1lb $23 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307
Accurate 4350 8lb $166 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307

Accurate 5744 8lb $194 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307

Accurate LT-32 1lb $25.75 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307
Accurate LT-32 8lb $194.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307

Accurate Mag Pro 1lb $20 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307
Accurate Mag Pro 8lb $145 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|307

Alliant RED DOT 1 LB / $16.75 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308
Alliant RED DOT 8 LBS / 115 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant PROMO 8 LBS / $97 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant GREEN DOT 1 LB / $17 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308
Alliant GREEN DOT 8 LBS / $115 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant HERCO 1 LB / $16.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308
Alliant HERCO 8 LBS / $115 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant POWER PRO 300MP 1 LB / $19 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant RELODER 7 1 LB / $20.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant RELODER 17 1 LB / $20.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant POWER PRO 2000MR 8 LBS / $139 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Alliant POWER PRO 4000MR 1 LB / $20.85 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308
Alliant POWER PRO 4000MR 8 LBS / $132 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|308

Hodgdon Hybrid 100V 8 LBS / $142 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|311

Hodgdon Superformance 8 LBS / $140 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|311

Hodgdon US869 8 LBS / $145 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|311

IMR 4831 8 LBS / $157 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|310

IMR 7828 1 LB / $22 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|310

Ramshot ENFORCER 1 LB / $19.50 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|473
Ramshot ENFORCER 4 LBS / $70 -http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=4108&dir=278|283|473

Ramshot HUNTER 1 LB / $20 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|473
Ramshot HUNTER 8 LBS / $142 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|473

Ramshot BIG GAME 1 LB / $20 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|473

Ramshot MAGNUM RIFLE 1 LB / $20 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|473
Ramshot MAGNUM RIFLE 8 LBS / $142 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...ir=278|283|473


.308 147 gr Mil Spec. M80 Match FMJBT w/c 2000 / $429 (Free shipping) - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...|281|1081|1161

.308 150 gr Hornady FMJ BT 2100 / $449 (Free shipping) - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...|281|1081|1161

.308 150 gr M2 FMJ 2000 / $395 (Free shipping) - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...|281|1081|1161

Once Fired Lake City 5.56mm(223) Brass 1000 / $90 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...78|282|909|948

Once Fired Lake City 5.56mm(223) Brass 3000 / $267 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...78|282|909|948

Once Fired Mixed 308 (7.62x51) 500 / $100 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...78|282|909|980

Unfired 308 Lake City primed brass 500/$159, 1000/$299 - http://www.wideners.com/itemdetail.c...78|282|909|980

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Old July 27, 2013, 12:40 PM   #1282
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I ordered some stuff from powder valley last night...their adding shipping after you place the order will keep me from ordering from them again
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Old July 27, 2013, 12:42 PM   #1283
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What do you mean, adding shipping after you place your order, you don't expect to pay shipping? Or they give you a total with shipping, and then add more shipping?
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Old July 27, 2013, 12:48 PM   #1284
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They don't tell you how much shipping will be when you order....you place your order and you wait to find out how much shipping will cost when your card is billed. Their home page shipping estimate is pretty useless too...an estimate is just that...an estimate. If I am comparing prices, I want to know the final cost, including shipping. Their prices are not good enough to justify the archaic web design of their website.

Seriously it makes me worry about their security as well.
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Old July 27, 2013, 01:46 PM   #1285
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When growing up, pops told me a tale of a man who didnt like powdervalley... I lived my whole life up until this point believing he was a liar as Id never met someone who didnt like powder valley.

Why are you worried about them charging shipping once they actually find out how much it will cost them? Their shipping is always very fair, its usually around $17 each time I order 10k primers. Be happy you are getting your primers in 12 days and had virtually no limit as there are others out there right now on month three waiting for midway etc.
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Old July 27, 2013, 03:48 PM   #1286
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Their shipping prices have always been fair to me also. I guess if you are worrying about a few dollars, it could make a difference. Since I found out about PV, they are either the cheapest delivered, or they had everything I wanted and were still the cheapest.
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Old July 27, 2013, 05:10 PM   #1287
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Somewhere along the line, someone is going to be unhappy about shipping or play games with the system. The local PO said I set a record, when Missouri Bullet sent 68 pounds of lead ingots in a priority mail flat rate box ("if it fits, it ships"). I think it was about 8 dollars. The ladies couldn't lift it to deliver, so I went to pick it up about a mile away. They gave it to me in a nylon reinforced mail crate, so it had handles on it. Ever try to put 68 pounds in that small a space? It was a lesson in density.
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Old July 27, 2013, 06:52 PM   #1288
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Density lesson.
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Old July 27, 2013, 07:42 PM   #1289
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Found some RL-15

Lucked up and found the powder in Indianapolis, IN. They had 27, 1# containers. I just purchased 5#'s. They don't ship, my step-son lives in Indy and picked it up for me.

http://indianagunclub.com/Default.aspx

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Old July 27, 2013, 08:23 PM   #1290
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I am not going to ruin this excellent thread of bds's with squabling. Suffice it to say the market is getting better now and we are getting a much better selection of vendors to choose from. We all have to decide for ourselves how and where we want to spend our money.
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Old July 28, 2013, 04:46 AM   #1291
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HOOfan_1, I could add the shipping charge disclosure for Powder Valley so other unsuspecting buyers are aware.


Graf & Sons (Free shipping + $6.95 processing fee per order):

CCI Small Pistol primers APS 5000 / $167.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...productId/2435


BERRY 9MM (.356) 115 gr RN 250 / $25.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23264

BERRY 9MM (.356) 115 gr RN 1000 / $81.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23285

BERRY 38/357 (.357) 125 gr FP 250 / $28.19 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23344

BERRY 38/357 (.357) 125 gr FP 1000 / $88.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23345

BERRY 38/357 (.357) 148 gr DEWC 1000 / $101.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23252


BERRY 40 (.401) 155 gr FP 250 / $36.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23337

BERRY 40 (.401) 155 gr FP 1000 / $113.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23321

BERRY 40 (.401) 165 gr FP 1000 / $116.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23273

BERRY 40 (.401) 180 gr FP 250 / $39.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23352

BERRY 40 (.401) 180 gr FP 1000 / $117.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23278

BERRY 41 (.410) 210 gr FP 250 / $44.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23312

BERRY 41 (.410) 210 gr FP 500 / $70.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/25611


BERRY 45 (.452) 185 gr FP 250 / $39.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23269

SPEER 45 (.451) 185 gr Gold Dot HP 100 / $27.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/17357

BERRY 45 (.452) 200 gr FP 250 / $41.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23324

BERRY 45 (.452) 230 gr RN 250 / $42.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23349

BERRY 45 (.452) 230 gr RN 500 / $64.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/25504

BERRY 45COLT (.452) 250 gr FP 250 / $40.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/23348


22 cal (.224) 55 gr PRVI PARTIZAN FMJBT 100/$11.59, 500/$55.05, 1000/$104.31 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/12600

Other 22 cal bullets - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/12600

30 cal (.308) 147 gr LAKE CITY M80 PULL DOWN 100 / $16.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/26973

30 cal (.308) 150 gr PRVI PARTIZAN SP 100/$23.99, 500/$113.95, 1000/$215.91 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/12613

30 cal (.308) 150 gr GRAF BULLET FMJBT 100 / $21.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/26943

30 cal (.308) 155 gr GRAF BULLET HPBT 100 / $25.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/26944

30 cal (.308) 168 gr GRAF BULLET HPBT 100 / $25.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/26342

30 cal (.308) 175 gr LAKE CITY M118 PULL DOWN 100 / $21.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/27026

30 cal (.308) 175 gr GRAF BULLET HPBT 100 / $27.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/26343

Other 30 cal bullets - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...Id/920/page/1?

JAMISON BRASS 300 BLK UNPRIMED 100 / $62.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/26968

LAKE CITY BRASS 308 M80 PRIMED PULL DOWN 100 / $34.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/26972


VIHTAVUORI 3N38 1 LB / $34.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18892
VIHTAVUORI 3N38 4 LBS / $114.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18893

VIHTAVUORI N310 1 LB / $34.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18882
VIHTAVUORI N310 4 LBS / $114.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18883

VIHTAVUORI N105 1 LB / $34.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18868

VIHTAVUORI N110 1 LB / $33.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18869

VIHTAVUORI N160 1 LB / $33.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18878

VIHTAVUORI N165 1 LB / $33.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18880

VIHTAVUORI N530 1 LB / $38.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18894

VIHTAVUORI N540 1 LB / $38.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18895

VIHTAVUORI N560 1 LB / $38.59 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/18897

Winchester WST 1 LB / $19.99 - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...roductId/19739

Other powders - http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...ategoryId/3512
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Winchester Large Rifle Magnum primers 1000/$34.69, 5000/$167.39 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,517.html

9mm 115 gr Remington FMJ 100 / $12.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,3980.html


Accurate No 2 1 lb / $20.29 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,44.html

Accurate No 7 1 lb / $21.69 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,47.html

Accurate No 9 1 lb / $21.69 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,1046.html

Other Accurate powders - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/2,4.html


Hodgdon Clays 14 oz / $16.89 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,184.html

Hodgdon H414 1 lb / $20.59 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,235.html

Hodgdon H4831 1 lb / $23.59 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,3311.html

Hodgdon H4895 1 lb / $23.59 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,247.html

Hodgdon HS-6 1 lb / $20.59 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,264.html
Hodgdon HS-6 8 lbs / $152.09 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,265.html

Hodgdon Long Shot 1 lb / $19.89 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,302.html
Hodgdon Long Shot 4 lbs / $76.69 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,303.html
Hodgdon Long SHot 8 lbs / $147.59 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,304.html

Hodgdon Titegroup 1 lb / $16.59 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,474.html
Hodgdon Titegroup 8 lbs / $123.89 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,1052.html

Hodgdon Superformance 1 lb / $21.19 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,3195.html
Hodgdon Superformance 8 lbs / $153.29 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,3198.html

Hodgdon Retumbo 1 lb / $23.59 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,2209.html


IMR 800X 1 lb / $17.19 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,2694.html

IMR SR 4759 1 lb / $20.79 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,1947.html

IMR 3031 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,268.html
IMR 3031 8 lbs / $153.29 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,269.html

IMR 4007 SSC 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,1851.html

IMR 4064 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,270.html

IMR 4198 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,272.html

IMR 4227 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,274.html
IMR 4227 8 lbs / $153.29 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,275.html

IMR 4320 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,276.html
IMR 4320 8 lbs / $153.29 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,277.html

IMR 4350 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,278.html

IMR 4831 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,280.html

IMR 4895 1 lb / $21.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,282.html


Winchester 296 1 lb / $19.29 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,21.html

Winchester 748 1 lb / $20.49 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,33.html

Winchester WST 1 lb / $18.39 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,536.html
Winchester WST 4 lbs / $67.69 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,537.html
Winchester WST 8 lbs / $129.79 - http://www.recobstargetshop.com/browse.cfm/4,538.html

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Old July 30, 2013, 12:32 AM   #1293
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Check posts #1250, #1256, #1259, #1260, #1262, #1263, #1268, #1269, #1280, #1281, #1291 and #1292 for other reloading components/equipment in stock.


MidwayUSA:

Remington Large Pistol primers 5000 / $172.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/823...-boxes-of-1000

CCI Small Rifle Military primers #41 5000 / $195.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/316...-boxes-of-1000


32 Cal (.312") 90 gr Sierra JHP 100 / $17.79 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/505...int-box-of-100

327 Federal Magnum (.312") 100 gr Speer Gold Dot HP 100 / $20.49 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/214...int-box-of-100

380ACP (.356") 95 gr Remington FMJ 100/$17.29, 500/$79.99, 1000/$150.99, 2000/$268.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160...l-metal-jacket

380ACP (.355") 95 gr Winchester FMJ 100 / $17.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/362...ket-bag-of-100

9mm (.355") 90 gr Sierra Sports Master JHP 100 / $16.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/163...int-box-of-100

38 Cal (.357") 125 gr Remington SJHP 100/$14.79, 500/$66.99, 1000/$125.99, 2000/$238.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160...int-box-of-500


40/10mm (.400") 135 gr Rainier Plated FN 100/$13.99, 500/$51.99, 1000/$97.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/105...ated-flat-nose

40/10mm (.400") 155 gr Rainier plated FN 500/$59.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/716...-bulk-packaged

44 Cal (.429") 240 gr Sierra JHP 100 / $26.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/568...int-box-of-100


45 Cal (.451") 200 gr Rainier plated RN 100/$18.29, 1000/$127.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/105...ted-round-nose

45 Cal (.451") 200 gr Rainier plated SWC 500/$69.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/737...-bulk-packaged

45 Cal (.451") 230 gr Remington FMJ 100/$23.49, 500/$101.99, 1000/$198.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/160...l-metal-jacket

45 Cal (.452") 250 gr Rainier plated FN 100/$18.99, 500/$89.99, 1000/$147.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/105...ated-flat-nose


22 Cal (.224") 55 gr Remington FMJ 500 / $53.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/345...-bulk-packaged

Other 22 Cal bullets - http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby...k&pageNumber=1

30 Cal bullets - http://www.midwayusa.com/find?sortby...k&pageNumber=1


Once fired 5.56 NATO LC brass 500 / $75.97 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/191..._vc=OBv1562416

Once fired mixed 308/7.62x71mm brass 250 / $67.99 - http://www.midwayusa.com/product/562...ged?cm_vc=OBv1

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Old July 30, 2013, 12:51 AM   #1294
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Perhaps this is not the correct thread for this question, but can someone enlighten me?

For a friend, I'm looking for 45 colt cast lead bullets. I've always believed cast bullets are one thousandths over. (example 9mm Luger bullets are .356)

Sometimes weight gives it away, what the bullets are intended for (230gr for 45 ACP). But in this case, looking for Colt 45 bullets, I'm finding it confusing with 45 ACP bullets. Both are commonly loaded in 200 grain weights and I'm finding .451 and .452 bullets.

I'm confused. Would be nice if I could get schooled on the difference between the two calibers and how they're sold and marketed as components.
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Old July 30, 2013, 01:44 AM   #1295
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45 Colt cases are rimmed and lead bullets are sized .452" and typically have crimp groove for roll crimping to prevent bullets from backing out of cases with heavy recoiling loads.

45ACP/AUTO cases are rimless that headspace on the case mouth and while lead bullets are sized the same at .452", they do not have crimp grooves as taper crimp is needed to allow case mouth to headspace.

With that said, I have been working up 45 Colt loads with Berry's 250 gr plated FP bullets (no cannelure for roll crimping) sized .452" using various powders (Red Dot, Promo, W231/HP-38, Herco, etc.) and taper crimp as all the loads are cowboy loads around 750-850 fps.

I am waiting on Missouri 250/255 gr bullets sized .452" with crimp groove but since I have 200/230 gr 45 bullets (without crimp groove) I use for 45ACP loads, I will be using them with taper crimp while waiting on heavier MBC bullets. Since all of my loads will be cowboy loads below 1000 fps, I plan on using taper crimp even with bullets that have crimp grooves to extend the life of case mouths.

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Old July 30, 2013, 02:00 AM   #1296
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I'm totally in understanding of the difference in cases and how they headspace. But when it comes to bullets (not looking for cases) I'm just not sure what they're intended for. Many times, a crimp groove perhaps is present but not described, sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's not.

I guess, without further clarification, I could go on anything in 452 being suitable for Colt and to ask about a roll crimp groove if I want one.

So is that the standard? 452 suitable for Colt and look for crimp groove to suit needs? 451 suitable for ACP only?

I do use some plated 357 loads without cannelure, though I don't like it, I am familiar with that idea and way of loading with a taper crimp in light loads.

But these Colt loads are for a beginner who is not in complete understanding of the amount of pressure that can be applied. I.E., I'm looking for dummy-proof bullets that don't require any knowledge beyond the load book.

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Old July 30, 2013, 02:15 AM   #1297
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If they have crimp groove and sized .452", they are 45 Colt (or Long Colt) bullets.

Hate to confuse you even more but some vendors like Powder Valley will specify the bullets as to what they are for (45ACP vs 45LC) and the BHN/softness of the lead bullets (12/18 BHN for 45LC and 18 BHN for 45ACP).
Quote:
MO .452 200 GR RNFP COWBOY #4 BHN 12 .45LC
MO .452 200 GR SWC IDP #1 BHN 18 .45ACP
MO .452 200 GR RNFP IDP #4-XD BHN 18 .45ACP
MO .452 200 GR SWC BULLSEYE #1 BHN 12 .45LC
MO .452 230 GR RN SOFTBALL! BHN 18 .45ACP
MO .452 250 GR RNFP PINBUSTERS! BHN 18 .45ACP & .45LC
MO .452 255 GR SWC .45 ELMER K BHN 18 .45LC

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Old July 30, 2013, 02:44 AM   #1298
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I'm not confused by hardness. But I rarely see hardness in the description. A lot of times I can tell by the bullet description or shape. A hardness rating is a sure bet, it's colt load.

But many, many times I see descriptions like this:

.451 200 gr lead cast RN (no mention of groove or hardness)

Round nose can be anything, 451 can be for either. Keith bullets, wad cutters, anything with a cone shape is LC. But there's a lot available without much of a description. I'm on board with descriptions when the nomenclature suggest auto or revolver.

I'm totally open for more schooling, specifically is 452 a LC bullet and is 451 an ACP bullet? It appears that's not a hard/fast rule. Or is it?

My son, who's not the subject of this 45LC discussion has my load books, so I can't re-read presently.
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Old July 30, 2013, 03:03 AM   #1299
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Perhaps someone else can better clarify.

All the lead 45 ACP/45 Colt bullets I have seen advertised have been sized .452" not .451".

I can see it could be frustrating if the vendor don't supply enough description/information for their bullets. And contacting/emailing them for clarification could be difficult at the present time with most of them working on backlog of orders.
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Old July 30, 2013, 03:10 AM   #1300
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You're right BDS. No one (vendor) has time for questions and I don't bother.

Thanks for helping. I did learn a thing or two and I'm not all the way in the dark, anymore.
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