CZ canvas back in 20ga

Awsomepossum · March 15, 2013, 09:13 PM

Hello,
Does anyone have first hand experience with these O/U. I can buy one for 425$ and was wondering if the shotguns are worth it.

browningguy · March 15, 2013, 10:34 PM

I've shot both the s/s and o/u models, no long term experience but they seemed like very nice field guns to me.

Virginian · March 15, 2013, 10:58 PM

I am afraid you get what you pay for.

rugerdude · March 15, 2013, 11:15 PM

I looked at one in 12ga the other day, and it seemed to be of reasonable quality, at least from appearances.

It was head and shoulders above the Stoeger Condor and Stevens Goldwing. Action was neither stiff (considering it was new) or loose. The safety/barrel selector clicked into the various positions well and did not have any play in it.

The combination of extractors, light weight, and 26" barrels leads me to believe that it will perform pretty well as a field gun for various winged game.

Also, $425 is a pretty good price. The one I looked at was a tad over $600 new.

Hunterdad · March 16, 2013, 08:21 AM

They are good field guns. Just don't expect any sort of longevity from it if you plan to busy clays with it every weekend.

oneounceload · March 16, 2013, 06:08 PM

They are hit and miss quality wise ( and they seem to be trying to get better as of late); however.........as mentioned, you do tend to get what you pay for - and O/U and SxS are the two most expensive types of shotguns to make. Quality versions require a fair amount of handwork on top of any CNC machining - something the CZ's typically cannot provide at the price point they are sold at.

It is like comparing the $3 Chinese hammer that Lowe's sells for those who only hang tiny picture nails versus the $40 Estwing hammer that a carpenter needs to be reliable every day - what your intended usage is will determine whether a CZ is best for you. Not saying you need the "Estwing"of shotguns either, but maybe something a step up from the CZ might serve you better - like a Franchi, Lanber or similar

CNobbe · March 16, 2013, 10:34 PM

Had a Redhead 20ga for two years before I stopped loading/shooting 20ga.

Never had a problem with it. Lots of folks over on shotgun world forums love their CZs, so I don't think the reliability is really an issue with them.

CZ is known for good customer service, though their pistols are some of the most reliable out there. $425 seems like a steal. I bought a used Cynergy for $999 that's in near new condition, so maybe O/U values have taken a plunge again..

oneounceload · March 17, 2013, 12:46 PM

You cannot compare their Czech-made pistols to their Turkish-made shotguns

CNobbe · March 17, 2013, 11:15 PM

No, I'm not saying CZs are Lexus-like quality, maybe more Cadillac..

oneounceload · March 17, 2013, 11:21 PM

more like a Renault.........

MagnunJoe · March 18, 2013, 11:26 PM

I have 1 in 12 gage. Not a single problem after about 500 rounds of clay shooting.

Captcurt · March 19, 2013, 09:42 PM

Had a 28 ga. I could carry one without regrets. A friend has a 20 that has an awesome piece of wood. I think that I can talk him out of it.

oneounceload · March 20, 2013, 08:59 PM

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I have 1 in 12 gage. Not a single problem after about 500 rounds of clay shooting.

500? I do that in less than a weekend. My Browning O/U has over 250,000 with only some springs and a firing pin replaced at 90,000 - do you really think the CZ will even come within 10% of that?

MagnunJoe · May 16, 2013, 12:09 AM

For your average shooter, 1k shots per year average, the CZ Canvas bag, will be more than enough, and then some.

March 15, 2013, 09:13 PM	#1
Awsomepossum Member Join Date: February 20, 2011 Location: Denton, Tx Posts: 93	CZ canvas back in 20ga Hello, Does anyone have first hand experience with these O/U. I can buy one for 425$ and was wondering if the shotguns are worth it.

March 15, 2013, 10:34 PM	#2
browningguy Member Join Date: July 21, 2004 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 3,732	I've shot both the s/s and o/u models, no long term experience but they seemed like very nice field guns to me. __________________ Browningguy Houston, TX

March 15, 2013, 10:58 PM	#3
Virginian Member Join Date: April 7, 2003 Location: Evangeline, Louisiana Posts: 3,012	I am afraid you get what you pay for. __________________ What could have happened... did.

March 16, 2013, 06:08 PM	#6
oneounceload Member Join Date: April 24, 2008 Location: Hot and Humid FL Posts: 10,938	They are hit and miss quality wise ( and they seem to be trying to get better as of late); however.........as mentioned, you do tend to get what you pay for - and O/U and SxS are the two most expensive types of shotguns to make. Quality versions require a fair amount of handwork on top of any CNC machining - something the CZ's typically cannot provide at the price point they are sold at. It is like comparing the $3 Chinese hammer that Lowe's sells for those who only hang tiny picture nails versus the $40 Estwing hammer that a carpenter needs to be reliable every day - what your intended usage is will determine whether a CZ is best for you. Not saying you need the "Estwing"of shotguns either, but maybe something a step up from the CZ might serve you better - like a Franchi, Lanber or similar __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.” - Aldo Gucci

March 17, 2013, 12:46 PM	#8
oneounceload Member Join Date: April 24, 2008 Location: Hot and Humid FL Posts: 10,938	You cannot compare their Czech-made pistols to their Turkish-made shotguns __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.” - Aldo Gucci

March 15, 2013, 11:15 PM	#4
rugerdude Member Join Date: August 14, 2004 Posts: 559	I looked at one in 12ga the other day, and it seemed to be of reasonable quality, at least from appearances. It was head and shoulders above the Stoeger Condor and Stevens Goldwing. Action was neither stiff (considering it was new) or loose. The safety/barrel selector clicked into the various positions well and did not have any play in it. The combination of extractors, light weight, and 26" barrels leads me to believe that it will perform pretty well as a field gun for various winged game. Also, $425 is a pretty good price. The one I looked at was a tad over $600 new.

March 16, 2013, 08:21 AM	#5
Hunterdad Member Join Date: December 23, 2009 Location: Syracuse, NY Posts: 1,582	They are good field guns. Just don't expect any sort of longevity from it if you plan to busy clays with it every weekend.

March 16, 2013, 10:34 PM	#7
CNobbe Member Join Date: February 22, 2013 Posts: 62	Had a Redhead 20ga for two years before I stopped loading/shooting 20ga. Never had a problem with it. Lots of folks over on shotgun world forums love their CZs, so I don't think the reliability is really an issue with them. CZ is known for good customer service, though their pistols are some of the most reliable out there. $425 seems like a steal. I bought a used Cynergy for $999 that's in near new condition, so maybe O/U values have taken a plunge again..

March 17, 2013, 11:15 PM	#9
CNobbe Member Join Date: February 22, 2013 Posts: 62	No, I'm not saying CZs are Lexus-like quality, maybe more Cadillac..

March 17, 2013, 11:21 PM	#10
oneounceload Member Join Date: April 24, 2008 Location: Hot and Humid FL Posts: 10,938	more like a Renault......... __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality is remembered long after the sweetness of low price has faded from memory.” - Aldo Gucci

March 18, 2013, 11:26 PM	#11
MagnunJoe Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Location: South Florida Posts: 131	I have 1 in 12 gage. Not a single problem after about 500 rounds of clay shooting. __________________ Republicans R not perfect, but they will let U keep more of your money, & all of your guns!!!

March 19, 2013, 09:42 PM	#12
Captcurt Member Join Date: August 9, 2010 Location: Ozark Mountains of Arkansas Posts: 727	Had a 28 ga. I could carry one without regrets. A friend has a 20 that has an awesome piece of wood. I think that I can talk him out of it. __________________ In God we trust, all others pay cash!

May 16, 2013, 12:09 AM	#14
MagnunJoe Member Join Date: January 27, 2013 Location: South Florida Posts: 131	For your average shooter, 1k shots per year average, the CZ Canvas bag, will be more than enough, and then some. __________________ Republicans R not perfect, but they will let U keep more of your money, & all of your guns!!!