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Old October 7, 2013, 08:13 PM   #126
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I can't see a rollpin through the grip safety as anything but a cosmetic thing to indicate a post-recall gun.

If someone can show me that I'm wrong on that, I'd be delighted.
I imagine that is the reason since their is no released information on what the fix actually is. The only other reason I can think of is the grip safety is part of the upgrade, the part that they have figured out so far.

This recall doesn't make me disappointed with Springfield. Every large firearm company has gone through recalls and most have survived. I still carry my XD and plan on getting more including an (upgraded) XD-s.
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Old October 9, 2013, 08:49 PM   #127
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Visual only this time.

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Old October 9, 2013, 08:53 PM   #128
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The latest notification from SA - the included image is a little big, but it is informative.
You're about three weeks behind with that post.

To receive updates by text message, text XDS to 25827
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Old October 9, 2013, 08:56 PM   #129
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I received this email notice from "Team Springfield" about an hour ago.

XD-S Recall Update 10/09/2013
XD-S Upgrade Testing Very Near Completion

We last updated this site Friday, October 4, with the good news that we have found what we believe is the final solution for the XD-S upgrade and that we would be continuing exhaustive testing through the week.

We are very pleased to let you know that a large majority of the testing is complete and is going extremely well. We believe we are very close to being able to give our valued customers more specific information about when they can expect their XD-S pistols to be returned to them.

We will update this site again on Friday, October 11 and fully expect that we will have more great news to share.We are making final arrangements for upgrading the pistols that our customers returned to us.

In the meantime, please accept our heartfelt thanks for your patience, loyalty and support of Springfield Armory. We remain fully committed to resolving this recall as quickly as possible and we are confident that you will be extremely pleased with your upgraded 3.3 XD-S.

As a reminder, do not use your 3.3 XD-S until the upgrade has been performed.**
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Old October 9, 2013, 09:07 PM   #130
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You're right, I missed getting the correct update in there.

I'm gonna go out in the backyard now, fill the hot tub with tar and feathers and immerse myself.

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Old October 10, 2013, 09:04 AM   #131
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I received this email notice from "Team Springfield" about an hour ago.

XD-S Recall Update 10/09/2013
XD-S Upgrade Testing Very Near Completion

We last updated this site Friday, October 4, with the good news that we have found what we believe is the final solution for the XD-S upgrade and that we would be continuing exhaustive testing through the week.

We are very pleased to let you know that a large majority of the testing is complete and is going extremely well. We believe we are very close to being able to give our valued customers more specific information about when they can expect their XD-S pistols to be returned to them.

We will update this site again on Friday, October 11 and fully expect that we will have more great news to share.We are making final arrangements for upgrading the pistols that our customers returned to us.

In the meantime, please accept our heartfelt thanks for your patience, loyalty and support of Springfield Armory. We remain fully committed to resolving this recall as quickly as possible and we are confident that you will be extremely pleased with your upgraded 3.3 XD-S.

As a reminder, do not use your 3.3 XD-S until the upgrade has been performed.**
It would be nice if they would provide a little more technical information regarding what exactly they are testing. I'm getting tired of the lawyer updates.
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Old October 10, 2013, 10:37 AM   #132
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Yes I agree, either it's fixed or it's not. What's with the "getting close" bull. It's not the Space Shuttle, either they found out what was wrong, or they didn't.
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Old October 10, 2013, 11:41 AM   #133
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"Please wait patiently for awhile longer while we still try to get this figured out. We've only had your pistol for a little over a month. We'll return it someday. Probably."

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Old October 10, 2013, 01:50 PM   #134
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I support Springfield, but quit it with the "we have great news...we've made just a tiny bit of progress" nonsense.

Just lay it out. Here's what I want to know:

1. We have isolated the problem to XXXX

2. We are currently modifying the XXXX component

3. Testing should be complete by XX/XX/XXXX

4. Repairs to returned pistols will begin on XX/XX/XXXX

5. The expected turnaround time is XXXX

just lay out the facts. enough of the politicking.
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Old October 10, 2013, 11:38 PM   #135
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Springfield XDs Recall

I'm betting the problem requires a complete reengineering of the trigger group and they can't fit it within the dimensions of the pistol. If it's taking this long, it means there's something that they can't figure out. Basically the fix won't fit the frame. They're probably discussing what reimbursement for the pistols will be or something to that extent. It's like the old Vektor pistols; the parent company realizes it's cheaper to refund than fix the problem with the gun.

Is there a chance the guns have to go back to Croatia? That's where they're made.
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Old October 11, 2013, 09:25 AM   #136
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I don't see how you can state this unequivocally. There could be patent questions that would require research and, possibly, negotiations and contracts. Further, if it took over a year to find the problem I can understand that there would be some caution in saying that a solution conjured up in a couple of weeks was 100% good to go.
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Old October 11, 2013, 11:27 AM   #137
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The design flaw:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiDL8cxVNMw
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Old October 11, 2013, 11:37 AM   #138
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Watched the video, now what, can this be fixed, or are they going to have to refund money or replace the gun with a gift card, or something else. I appears that it's not easy to fix this.
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Old October 11, 2013, 11:43 AM   #139
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Today is supposed to be the big announcement of the real fix.
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Old October 11, 2013, 11:48 AM   #140
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Wow. That is as bad as I'd imagined from what I'd heard. The trigger doesn't reset when the slide cycles when grip safety is not enagaged!
As the video stated correctly the slide ought not even cycle!!!!!!
I am doubly glad I sent mine in. I hope they get this fixed.
That video gave me separation anxiety though, cause that two-toned job he used looked EXACTLY like mine, and if it was a .45 it WAS exactly like mine (maybe it really WAS mine???...nawwww, mine's being fixed. )
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Old October 11, 2013, 02:45 PM   #141
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As the video stated correctly the slide ought not even cycle!!!!!!
Says who? Springfield was criticized for that 'feature' in their other XD pistols. The slide should cycle without the grip safety depressed, however the trigger (and the safeties connected to it) should reset when the slide comes forward. That's the issue the video mentions.
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Old October 11, 2013, 03:33 PM   #142
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I saw this flaw demonstrated a week or two ago in a YouTube Vid by another, less excitable, fellow.

Bottom line, if you "tape down" the grip safety, everything else in the Safeties System will always work as it should.
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Old October 11, 2013, 03:34 PM   #143
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Update from SA:

http://www.springfieldrecall.com/RecallUpdate.asp
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Old October 11, 2013, 03:34 PM   #144
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This just in

XD-S Recall Update 10/11/2013

Dear Springfield Customer,

We are pleased to announce that our testing was successful and is complete.
We will receive our first shipment of upgrade parts early next week and will begin shipping upgraded XD-S pistols back to our customers the week of October 21 on a first-received/first-upgraded basis.

Once your pistol has been upgraded and is shipped back to you, an e-mail confirmation with tracking information will be sent to you at the e-mail address you provided.
For additional update information please click the link below to view the FAQ for the XD-S recall. If this document doesn't address your question, please call 800-680-6866 or send your question to recall@springfield-armory.com

http://springfieldrecall.com/Recall%20FAQ.asp
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Old October 11, 2013, 03:43 PM   #145
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thanks for the vid Captains1911

not good
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Old October 11, 2013, 04:56 PM   #146
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Free extended mag,sounds good to me!
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Old October 11, 2013, 04:57 PM   #147
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Glad to finally know what the daggone problem was. I never noticed it myself after putting a couple of hundred rounds downrange.

Now comes the long wait for repair and shipping......
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Old October 11, 2013, 05:17 PM   #148
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Well looks like I can send mine in now that they figured it out.
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Old October 11, 2013, 05:19 PM   #149
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Now it's finally (feeling) good to be one who sent it in the first day.
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Old October 11, 2013, 06:02 PM   #150
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The grip safety always did feel mushy weak. Of course thats comparing it to my full size XD.
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