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Old September 19, 2013, 05:23 PM   #1
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Which is the worst .45 pistol ever made in your opinion?

Dear THR:
Which is the worst .45 pistol ever made in your opinion? What did you find wrong with it?

I am at loss to name one that I really did not like.

Will read up on your responses and may be my mind will clear to which one is that sour lemon.

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Old September 19, 2013, 05:29 PM   #2
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Llama 1911, I can't list all the ways its lacking. Maybe I'm just comparing it to every other 1911 on earth but it's horribly inaccurate, fails to eject, and feeds lousy. But that could just be the three that I've fired in my life.
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Old September 19, 2013, 06:10 PM   #3
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Old September 19, 2013, 06:15 PM   #4
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Not to say it isn't creatively designed to an absurdly low price-point, but for a "throw it out the plane to the enslaved peoples" gun, I'd rather go up an order of magnitude in cost and get a Sten.
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Old September 19, 2013, 06:16 PM   #5
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Not happpy with the Llama but if Jimenez makes a .45 that has to be the worst. The Liberator functioned well for what it was
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Old September 19, 2013, 06:30 PM   #6
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OP didn't specify function as the sole criterion. And even then, nobody has probably fired enough Liberators to set a function baseline.

It was bad in several other categories, incuding build quality, ergonomics, and reloading procedure.
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Old September 19, 2013, 06:37 PM   #7
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Old September 19, 2013, 07:29 PM   #8
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I've got to agree with the folks on the Llama. I had one in the 80's that jammed every single magazine. At least I had lots on practice clearing jams
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:04 PM   #9
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Maybe I'm too forgiving but I've liked most I've fired and had good luck reliability-wise with my 45s, including a Llama MiniMax II. Also, Star PD, Colt and a worn 1950s Argentine Ballaster Molina.

Got the BM in non-reliable condition for $50 thirty years ago and a Colt recoil spring was all it needed. That thing slopped around and rattled but would hold 2.5" at 25 yards! I'd still have it but a buddy borrowed it and I never got it back.

Dry firing the Star broke the firing pin but I got one fabricated that works well. No issues with the Colt other than normal replacement parts.
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:05 PM   #10
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For me it has to be the Llama 1911 as well. Had a compact, Minimax model if i remember right, and it jammed worse than any other gun i have seen, not bad accuracy when it shot but seemed to jam more often than not! Didn't keep it around long.

I have shot one of the older Llamas don't remember the model but it was one of the sweetest little shooting .22 autos that i have shot, totally reliable and very accurate!

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Old September 19, 2013, 08:11 PM   #11
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The 1911.
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:12 PM   #12
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In the mid 1990s I had a Taurus PT945 that was a total POS.
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Old September 19, 2013, 08:35 PM   #13
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Old September 19, 2013, 10:22 PM   #14
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Might make a top five ugliest list though.. Or a, I didn't have to shoot the bad guy because he died laughing category.
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Old September 19, 2013, 10:40 PM   #15
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Any pistol that launches 45acp bullets can't be all bad. But the colt double eagles were pretty bad in my opinion.
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Old September 19, 2013, 11:00 PM   #16
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Old September 20, 2013, 01:17 AM   #17
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The Cobray 45 colt/ 410 single shot derringer is both ugly and crude.
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Old September 20, 2013, 07:33 AM   #18
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Old September 20, 2013, 09:04 AM   #19
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My dad bought a Llama 1911 back in the 1960s.

Tens of thousands of rounds later it is still going with all the original parts, magazines included. Most accurate autoloader we have too.

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Old September 20, 2013, 09:18 AM   #20
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Old September 20, 2013, 09:25 AM   #21
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The AMT was the worst I ever owned, but there ae lots of bad ones out there. The word on the Llamas is that either you get a good one or you don't. Doesn't seem to be a lot of middle ground on them. I had one for a while and had no issues with it.

I have had issues with Colts, Springfields and the only Dan Wesson I've ever owned. My Kimber has been perfect despite what I read about them. Same for my S&W's.
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Old September 20, 2013, 01:42 PM   #24
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Originally Posted by Trunk Monkey View Post
if Jimenez makes a .45 that has to be the worst.
Ha! Too funny
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Old September 20, 2013, 03:51 PM   #25
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I am a self-confessed Kimber fanboy, but the second generation outside ejector Kimbers were very bad guns. They were truly jam machines, no matter how well maintained or broken in. Kimber is still replacing slides on those guns. Having said that, if I had the scratch I'd buy a new Kimber Dessert Warrior in a heartbeat. The current ones are still the best values if you want an American made 1911 to build up.

I've also heard some very negative reports on the Sig 220, from enough varied sources to keep me away.
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