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Old April 11, 2014, 01:07 AM   #1
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Disappointing holster

It sucks being new at this...like any hobby I am subject to the mistakes we make early on.

I bought a paddle holster for my Bersa 380. In a word, it sucks. It was cheap, you get what you pay for. why does it suck ? It is so tight you cant draw the gun, it is not adjustable and I know the hard plastic would mar the gun.

Its one of the most common advertised - A Forbus (see picture)

Can anyone recommend similar that
1) Is adjustable of not so tight
2) Lined ? So its not a wear on the gun finish
3) Not super expensive

I saw a Bianchi leather, but $80 ? Maybe that's what I have to spend...sigh

This is the not for me holster

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Old April 11, 2014, 01:39 AM   #2
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I guess I've just been lucky, I have 6-8 of the Fobus paddle holsters and they've all provided me with good service for what they are. My most often carried one is one I use with my Springfield Armory EMP...yup, $1k gun in a $20 holster

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It is so tight you cant draw the gun, it is not adjustable and I know the hard plastic would mar the gun.
I'm going to guess you didn't read the directions. The easiest way to draw from the holster is to put in on and apply inward pressure as you draw

Their Evolution line does offer tension adjustment.

In polymer holsters, I usually use Blade-tec or Comp-tac...but they are going to run about $60
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Old April 11, 2014, 02:01 AM   #3
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Thanks

I'll give that a try....

I do have my eye on a few "pricier" options....

http://stonerholsters.com/Concealed-...paddle-holster

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/c...smansGuide.com

http://holsterfinder.safariland.com/.../Details/10230
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Old April 11, 2014, 08:57 AM   #4
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Does it need to be a paddle holster? There are a lot of parts and technology tied up in a paddle that typically runs the cost up. You can typically get a regular belt holster for less than the equivalent paddle design.

Here is some lined kydex, though they will all be over $80. They do have a paddle option.

Garrett Industries http://www.giholsters.com

Here are a couple of the better paddle holsters. You can see how much they run.

High Noon "Speedy Spanky" http://www.highnoonholsters.com/Prod...dy_spanky.html

Kramer "MSP" http://www.kramerleather.com/product...&categoryID=25

If it is easy on/easy off you want, you may be better served by the snap on/snap off designs rather than a paddle.

Alessi has one of the originators of the design in the "CQC-S" http://www.alessigunholsters.com/cqc-s-1/

There are a few makers with a similar design that cost less

Mitch Rosen Express Line "Premier" (you can often find them at Brownell's) http://www.mitchrosen.com/products/express-line/

Lobo Gun Leather "Snap Loop Pancake" http://www.lobogunleather.com/4_1-sl_pancake_snap-loop

By the way, every holster will wear the finish of your pistol.
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Old April 11, 2014, 01:31 PM   #5
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By the way, every holster will wear the finish of your pistol.
This is true.

It has been my experience that Kydex will wear faster and then stop, leather will continue to wear as long as you use it
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Old April 11, 2014, 01:55 PM   #6
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If you constantly worry about your gun's finish, you'll never really use it the way it was intended. Guns can be refinished just like a car can be repainted (although the process is different). Undue damage from neglect or abuse is never good. But using it properly will cause some wear. It'll all be ok.
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Old April 11, 2014, 02:07 PM   #7
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ohbytheway: I am sorry you are having trouble. But IMHO, I really like FOBUS holsters. I have several, one for each of my CCG`s,and carry one every day. I have yet to notice any ware marks on any of my guns caused by the FOBUS holister, I carry it in. I use the OSWB style holster. Also Your gun will remain in place with out shakeing loose from running or taking a bad fall. Or at least mine has for me.
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Old April 11, 2014, 02:13 PM   #8
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Quote:
9mmepiphany wrote,
It has been my experience that Kydex will wear faster and then stop, leather will continue to wear as long as you use it
My experience as well.
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If you constantly worry about your gun's finish, you'll never really use it the way it was intended. Guns can be refinished just like a car can be repainted
I agree.

I always like this picture of Tiger McKee's 1911.

http://shootrite.wordpress.com/2010/...modifications/

I wonder if he's ever had it refinished, or if he is going to? I'm pretty sure he likes the way it works, and the way it looks is probably secondary. However, chances are good he probably likes the way it looks too.

By the way, I think Tiger McKee is using a snap on/snap off kydex holster. The Aholster Shootrite Training holster. Though I don't think it is available for your gun.

http://shop.aholster.com/product.sc;...7&categoryId=1
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Old April 11, 2014, 03:11 PM   #9
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Re Fobus

I did same thing too tight with my G27.Spent two weeks trying to spread it with screwdrivers punches and etc. Finally drilled out the top washer which loosened it up. Wore out my Ted Blocker after 20years it's showing the wear
Bought a "sneaky Pete"and very happy with it so far:
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Old April 14, 2014, 09:37 PM   #10
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If you want Kydex check out Blade-tech; I own several and they are quality, and adjustable.

I always figure on paying $60-80 for a holster. Cheap crap is more expensive in the end than buying right the first time.
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Old April 14, 2014, 09:41 PM   #11
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You got that right

I am not going to cheap out on the holster. I have a nice one for my Glock. I am now looking at bianchi leather for the Bersa....
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Old April 14, 2014, 10:21 PM   #12
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I have the same gun and the same holster for it. Zero issues. It does need straight upwards draw, if you draw the gun out just a little bit it will hang up a bit. Just need to practice more with it and use a solid belt so the holster doesn't flex with the gun as much on the draw.
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Old April 14, 2014, 10:41 PM   #13
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I really like this holster. I have the Professional model. The most comfortable holster I have worn.
https://n82tactical.com/store
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Old April 14, 2014, 11:15 PM   #14
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I have 2 crossbreed supertuck one for my SIG 226 and one for my S&W M&P Shield. Very comfortable. I've noticed on the Shield that there is some wear on the takedown lever but nowhere else and honestly it rubs off so it might just be coming off of the leather onto my gun. $75 but well with it off you are going to carry all day.
It wears so well I don't even notice the heavy 226 is on my hip
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Old April 15, 2014, 12:13 AM   #15
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I prefer Michaels of Oregon not that plastic crap. The fabric holsters will streatch to fit your specific gun IF you take your gun in and make sure that it fits the holster.

Do this in a Cabellas and they will wet themselves.....at Bimart or your LGS as long as you clear the weapon infront of them you should have no problem.
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Old April 15, 2014, 05:17 PM   #16
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Wild Bill Has the paddle for 59 dollars
http://www.wildbillsconcealment.com/fusion_paddle.htm
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Old April 15, 2014, 06:03 PM   #17
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Thank you !

I think I have locked down on some but I am checking that out....

The one I mentioned is a no go no matter what. You get the gun in where it should go, it does NOT come out without two hands and a struggle.

Not like my Glock holster that has a small lock slide that you touch and the gun pops out smooth...
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Old April 16, 2014, 04:55 AM   #18
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RTFM

Fobus has great instructions in the package and on their website. Everyone that has issues with their holsters fails to RTFM!

Here is what they write at http://Fobus.com

How to use:

1. Tighten your belt

2. Place the holster on your hip and make sure the paddle is pushed all the way down on your belt.

3. Draw fast and decisive, in an upwards motion as if you were in a real critical situation.

4. The holster also offers an adjustment screw for a more accurate retention pressure and personal preference

5. A silicone spray can be used at the holster's trigger guard area, to lower the level of retention.





Watch their video on how to break in a Fobus holster https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBcr...bNapSerQE1hFtA

I'm a big fan and own several Fobus Holsters and Mag Pouches. They have amazing customer support and a facebook page that will answer any questions!


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Old April 16, 2014, 10:28 AM   #19
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Shhotman

I appreciate your information so don't take this post as an "attitude"..I am just saying...

I am not a stupid guy. The holster I have does not have ANY adjustment at all. All connections are pop rivets. If I wear it as designed, and even added a belt I could not get the gun out of the holster with one hand without ripping my own pants off.

The holster is just not made right. Getting the gun IN is an extreme effort and once in, it is stuck. So bad that a few times when I tried I thought I was going to have to cut it apart. Not to mention what it does to the gun finish.

If you look at the picture I provided you will note the recessed trigger area. Getting it down there is where you want to be. Getting there is VERY VERY difficult and once there, it is trapped.

Bottom line, I do not recommend this model. (Factory New in Package, Fobus Paddle Holster for Bersa Thunder 380 and Firestorm 380 pistols - model BS2.)

Maybe other adjustable models are great, this one just doesn't cut it. I hjave already purchased a new Bianchi leather holster that will works and wont scratch the gun ...Thanks again

EDIT: BTW ..I watched the video - I WISH mine worked like that...see how he slips the gun in ? Yeah...I wish. For me, I have to hold the bottom of the holster and PUSH with all my strength to get in all the way in...
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Old April 16, 2014, 06:25 PM   #20
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We bought my step-daughter a Fobus Paddle for her Bersa Deluxe .380. She's never had an issue with it in five years.

You may have a mis-labled holster, or simply a defective holster. Did you ever contact Fobus?
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Old April 16, 2014, 09:22 PM   #21
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Check out TAKtical. http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?t=737450
I received a holster and mag carrier that I ordered from him the other day and both are very nice. He is also a very good person to do business with.
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Old April 17, 2014, 10:32 PM   #22
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OP,
What model number did you buy? Is it possible you bought the wrong one?
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Old April 17, 2014, 11:35 PM   #23
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I have already replaced ...but

since you asked..this is the one I bought that doesn't work...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400686666263...84.m1439.l2649
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Old April 17, 2014, 11:52 PM   #24
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On the finish of your gun:

Ultimately, your gun is a tool. Unless you bought it for the express purpose of having a collector's item or for an investment for a future resale, then quit worrying about normal wear and tear.

Your gun already has some visible wear attributed to the first shootings you did with it. Sliding your magazines in and out caused wear marks. And carrying your gun will cause wear marks. These aren't "damage", nor do they interfere with the operation of your gun.

If you like, think of them as "character marks".

You can always have your gun refinished a couple decades down the road, if you wish...but even so, it will STILL be a tool and show wear over the years of use afterwards.

I have lots of other tools, be they wrenches, saws, clamps, or whatever. And they're all in pretty darn good shape. But though I clean them when I put them away, my nice Craftsman wrenches show the wear and tear of normal use over the years. I don't panic or get upset because this is "normal".
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Old April 18, 2014, 12:45 AM   #25
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Wow Chief...

I appreciate your point of view (duck, here comes the boom)

1) As I said from the start, it is defective. No one seems to get it. Its a 2 pound gun trying to fit a 1lb holster (not actual weight - just saying)

2) Maybe you treat your stuff like crap and call it character - I don't. I treat them as they should be treated and if they develop wear from normal use, that's fine, but I don't go out of my way to abuse anything I own (except maybe the lawnmower)

I have at least 800 to 1000 rounds through the Bersa with no marks EXCEPT from the damn holster. My Glock with about 500 rounds - no marks yet.

I don't use my craftsman tools as hammers (unless its a Craftsman Hammer) and every mechanic of any caliber I worked with in my 54 years took care of their tools, wiped them down, had their own spot in their toolboxes.

And since you are retired Navy (and my son is on the Nimitz) I thought it was standard SOP to take care of your tools, account for every one and every one has a place. So your post comes as a surprise.

Okay, with that said, I respect your opinion, but that's just not how I roll and any wear I have will be from use, not abuse. Thanks and thanks for serving our country
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