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Old June 19, 2014, 11:24 AM   #26
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I also got a couple of 225 Improved boxes of GB at Walmart. Shot 1/2 of one box at one session thru my Ruger Mark II and no problems. They were accurate and fed and fired fine.
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Old June 19, 2014, 03:36 PM   #27
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I bought a couple of 50 round boxes of GB about 5-6 years ago and they were garbage. Before that, though, I had bought the round cans of bulk GB - 300+ per can - and decided to open one and try them out. They worked great. They were a few years older than the boxes. The only possibility of reliable ignition with the boxed ammo was in pump or lever action rifles. or my Ruger bearcat. No semiautos needed to apply. If Rem 22s are being made to the same specs as 8-10 years ago, I'm glad and will try some. If they ever show up here.
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Old June 19, 2014, 04:13 PM   #28
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I have a long history with this round starting in the late 60's. This ammo was junk from day 1. I thought it was normal to have duds and inconsistent rounds with a .22 until the cci stinger came out in the mid 70's and I have not had a single problem since, except with the Remington load. I have not bought Remington .22 ammo for several decades, but I have had friends that bought it and it was always junk.

I complained to Remington for a while and they never admitted to any problems so I just quit buying it and switched to any other brands. I can probably count on one hand the duds I have had since with the other ammo.

Remington may have fixed their problems, but it's much too late in my book and I'm not wasting my hard earned money beating a dead horse.
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Old June 19, 2014, 10:47 PM   #29
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The thing is, it is not a dead horse.

I also have a long history with Remington Golden Bullets and preferred them over the Federal and Winchester promotional rounds years ago. They were not junk and in fact tended to be pretty accurate for HV rounds. They were dirty, but just about all 22 rimfire rounds are dirty to one degree or another.

CCI 22LR was always a notch above Remington, but you paid for them. Why do people buy bulk packs today (normal pricing)? Price.... It really doesn't matter if they hit a bit off POA since your target was a soda can.

When CCI stingers came out, I thought they were pretty cool and so powerful for a 22LR. But the thing is they cost a lot more than promotional ammo of the day and other than buying a few boxes here and there, I didn't shoot them or any of the other hypervolocity rounds that came out after the Stingers.
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Old June 20, 2014, 07:15 AM   #30
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Just last year, 2 shooters at a Steel Challenge match were sharing a brick of Remington .22lR which would not run in either of their pistols. They were offered Federal ammo by a fellow shooter and problem solved.

Could have been some of the older Remington ammo? Glad to hear some good reports on their 22LR, but I went to other brands 20 years ago.

Dud rounds aside, is Remington 22LR any cleaner than it used to be?
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Old June 20, 2014, 07:32 PM   #31
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Still pretty dirty. It doesn't particularly bother me. I'll keep some solvent with me and wipe around the chamber in my Thompson Lynx (semi-auto 22 rifle). They are fairly ammo picky when they get dirty around the chamber. My standard round that I shoot with it are older PMC Moderators (SV rounds) and it generally keeps then under 1/2" edge to edge at 50 yds. Sometimes will shoot CCI SV also.

I routinely get 1/2 to 3/4" groups with Remington Golden Bullets at 50 yds. Usually three or four in tight and a flyer. Not good enough for serious shooting, but great for general use.
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Old June 20, 2014, 08:32 PM   #32
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I stick mainly to CCI and Aguila rimfire ammo, and have a reasonable stash...and I usually avoid Remington.
But, with the current crunch, when I saw a fresh delivery of 225 pack Golden Bullet, I limited with three boxes.
I tried about 50 at the range in my Ruger SR22P...shot great, no issues, decent accuracy.
I didn't notice any unusual residue buildup, and part of the time, I had done some rapid fire mag dumps.
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Old June 20, 2014, 09:06 PM   #33
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I have seen Golden bullets produced in the past year that had significant FTF/malfunctions in multiple guns .With that said, the local big box sporting goods store had 1400 buckets just this morning....I passed.
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Old June 20, 2014, 11:15 PM   #34
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Ya gotta admit, Remington has been swirling in the stool for many years. It seems to be going the way of Winchester. The only Remington product I currently buy is shotgun ammo. I have several older shotguns I intend to keep but that's all. QC there must be zero. The GM of the gun world but apparently they're unconcerned.
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Old June 21, 2014, 12:42 AM   #35
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Eley primed Aguila 22s are a joke. I've had almost as many duds with them as with the Rem 22s.
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Old June 21, 2014, 07:36 AM   #36
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Took me a few years to catch on, but for the past decade or so, my 22lr ammo has been ABR...

Anything
But
Remington

If good reports continue for the next decade or so, I might just try some Remington again some day. Probably not though, because it's likely that something else will be available.
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Old June 21, 2014, 10:43 AM   #37
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Maybe all of this is why there wasn't a line at walmart today (I was the only one who was there at 8am) for 225 packs of golden bullets. Of course I bought three boxes, but then my .22's all seem to feed and function with them. Even the sporting goods gentleman was surprised that there wasn't a line. Of course I had other things I needed to get at walmart so the trip wasn't just for ammo.
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Old June 23, 2014, 06:19 AM   #38
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A couple of years ago, I had one of the now rare S&W 15-22 pistols, a fun little toy, and the Golden Bullets were one of the ones S&W recommended not be used in it. A friend of mine bought one too, and the first time I shot it, we shot what I had, a couple of boxes of Federal 36gr copper plated stuff that worked perfectly. We put a bunch of rounds through them with one misfire that was too weak to cycle the action in my gun. The second time we shot them, my friend had bought one of the GB buckets of 1400(?), and we figured the worst that could happen was we would have a lot of misfires and some feeding issues, but it really didn't happen, we each had a couple of misfires and a few more that we tossed while loading the mags, but probably 98% of it was fine. I sold my 15-22, but my friend still has his, and a couple of other semiauto pistols and rifles and has shot GB in them several times. It's not the best stuff, but it doesn't seem as bad as it used to be, or was claimed to be.
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Old June 23, 2014, 06:42 AM   #39
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the GB were my go to for years, but of late what I have found were inconsistant, but haven found new in several months. I will agree CCI beat them hands down, but were higher. So I stuck with the goldens from 60s through 90s, fedrall bulk was the junk on my list.
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Old June 23, 2014, 07:00 AM   #40
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Remington Golden Bullet was my favored plinking and hunting ammo in the 1960s. And yes, the quality or lack of quality in the last few years of the Rem GB was a disappointment. A return to old standards is welcome news. I think Rem execs may have "got it" that former loyal GB users were willing to pay more for CCI MiniMag and Winchester SuperX for reliablity and consistency.
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Old June 23, 2014, 07:04 AM   #41
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8-10 years ago when the majority of my shooting was informal plinking with .22lr or 7.62x39, my .22 ammo of choice was Federal bulk packs. Federal fired cleaner, more accurate, and more dependable than any other bulk packed .22 and it was under $10/500rnds. When I wanted dead reliable and accurate .22 I used CCI, never had ANY failures with any CCI. But if there was no Federal bulk pack on the shelf I reached for Remington before Winchester. With Rem GB I'd get about 20 rounds out of 500 that wouldn't fire. It was no big deal for me because it was just plinking ammo and when Federal was $10/box, Remington was only $8, so I figured I got my money's worth. Wi Chester on the other hand, their crap wouldn't cycle in any semi-auto I've ever had. Even with .22 ammo being in short supply I still avoid Winchester, but I did break down and buy a box of it last year when it was all that I could find without paying some con-man $60/brick.
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Old June 24, 2014, 12:14 AM   #42
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I cant faithfully buy Remington 22LR anymore. I understand they may have changed the formula, but then again they may have just changed the marketing approach. Like someone said earlier, it wouldn't matter if they changed it or not the way 22LR is flying off the shelves. They are still going to sell all of it regardless if it goes bang or not.
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Old June 24, 2014, 10:20 PM   #43
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I bought a 550 round box of gb a few weeks ago. not as good as the federal automatch I got with a 22lr rifle purchase last week but still pretty good other than a few ftfs. On the rarity issue, it seems while rare, rimfire is now at least semi available at the right time. Just don't go stocking now and only buy what you think you can scrape by with and it will become more common in the next few months, barring issues of course.
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