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Old July 7, 2014, 08:26 PM   #1
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Is there a reason to get a 22-250 Remington?

I have a chance to pick up a Savage Model 11 in 22-250 Remington for what looks to be a great deal. I'm very tempted to just have the action for a build if I don't like it, but I'm still undecided. I've always heard friends brag about their 22-250's, but I never really saw the point. Seemed like they were constantly wearing out barrels on them and the only advantage they could tell me about was the high velocity. It also seemed like I could get an even higher velocity shooting light weight bullets in a 243, so I just didn't see a point to it. Now that I have the chance to get one, I'm wondering if there is a point to it? Is there a reason I should have one? What's the average barrel life on these?
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Old July 7, 2014, 08:31 PM   #2
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If you can afford to buy the ammo to wear out a barrel you can afford another barrel. I don't want or need one. A 223 isn't as fast, but is more versatile for my needs. But if you want to shoot lighter bullets fast it will do it. Most 22-250 barrels aren't twisted for heavier bullets the 223 will handle. Depends on what you need and want it to do.
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Old July 7, 2014, 08:31 PM   #3
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To own a 22/250 it to experience the lure of the cartridge paper ballistics don't imply.

I don't think I've ever been able to create or conjure up a combination of loads or rifle parts that resulted in a "bad" 22/250 group.

For me it's just one of those cartridges that seems prone to shooting great groups if left to its own devices. Similar case but a polar opposite to my 243 experienced which always seemed to be highly picky as to what shot decent and what produced patterns with just a minor change
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Old July 7, 2014, 08:35 PM   #4
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I can see no real benefit in the field to choosing 22-250 over a 223, in fact 223 anchors coyotes better. Though it is nearly dead we really like 6mm Rem.

You could do a custom build with fast twist barrel to shoot the heavier bullets out of your 22-250.
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Old July 7, 2014, 08:47 PM   #5
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22-250 over a 223, in fact 223 anchors coyotes better.
???. Why, and how come...?
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Old July 7, 2014, 09:15 PM   #6
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Wearing out their barrels how? For light weight bullets .223 , isn't going to kill better...and coyotes don't need heavy bullets to be killed. .243 isn't a legal hunting cartridge wear I hunt groundhogs. .22-250 is..and it is a death laser.

With lighter bullets at 300+ yards I'll take the .22-250 any time. That extra spped ensures those varmint bullets explode whenever they hit something.
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Old July 7, 2014, 09:27 PM   #7
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22-250 is the most versatile .22 centerfire round made, IF you reload. Reloaded, it can mimic everything from the .22 hornet to "near" 220 swift levels. However, if factory ammo is your flavor of choice, the old .223 cant be beaten.
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Old July 7, 2014, 09:36 PM   #8
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Only one.

Just cause! I really love my Remington VLS in 22-250.
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Old July 7, 2014, 10:00 PM   #9
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I love .22-250s for everthing from coyotes to hogs to deer, got a few,....my favorite Ruger #1Varminter with bull barrel and a real nice Leupold....No.1 are called inaccurate....mine can put it thru a hogs ear at 200 yards or more, coytes, dear, DRT. beautiful tack driver, no matter what people say about No. 1 accuracy.
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Old July 7, 2014, 10:04 PM   #10
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Out here in the west, the 22/250 is the benchmark standard for coyote rifles. Shoots flat, hits hard, don't kick. We get some 4-500 yard shots across a hayfield sometimes and that makes the difference right there. The right load will not shoot through one, but it will stop him. Not trying to argue with the .223 guys, just my opinion.
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Old July 8, 2014, 12:11 AM   #11
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Have never shot a 22-250 that was not a tack driver.
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Old July 8, 2014, 02:53 AM   #12
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I love .22-250s for everthing from coyotes to hogs to deer, got a few,....my favorite Ruger #1Varminter with bull barrel and a real nice Leupold....No.1 are called inaccurate....mine can put it thru a hogs ear at 200 yards or more, coytes, dear, DRT. beautiful tack driver, no matter what people say about No. 1 accuracy.

i can believe that!!!

my tc encore in 20 vartarg with a 16 1/4" mgm heavy barrel can do .2" at 100yards(3 shots). my savage m12 in 223 does .4" at 100yds(5 shots) with 55gr varmint nightmare. i still have to find a scope, but it is a tc encore 27" mgm heavy barrel in 22-250 ackley improved with 1 in 8" twist. a 75 gr amax or 60gr vmax is going to be used, i think
groundhogs beware!!!! maybe i'll use it for deer next year!!!!
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Old July 8, 2014, 03:13 AM   #13
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I can see no real benefit in the field to choosing 22-250 over a 223, in fact 223 anchors coyotes better. Though it is nearly dead we really like 6mm Rem.

You could do a custom build with fast twist barrel to shoot the heavier bullets out of your 22-250.
This is why you should not trust everything you see on the internet.....There is no way that a .223 would kill something better than a .22-250 when it has a 300+ fps edge using the same components.

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Old July 8, 2014, 06:16 AM   #14
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I too call the idea of the .223 killing coyotes "deader" than a 22-250 nonsense. There is no way that given the same bullet out of a similar rifle, that the .223 would kill "better" than the 22-250 which beats it on both velocity and ft lbs of energy. Now, if you made the claim that a 223 shooting 69 gr bullets kills coyotes better than a 40 grain pill out of a 22-250, then we can at least have a conversation. But, everything else being equal, there's no way the ballistically inferior round is actually superior at killing coyotes for some undefined, unknown reason.
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Old July 8, 2014, 06:44 AM   #15
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Never lost an animal with a 22-250, cant say the same with a 223...
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Old July 8, 2014, 12:01 PM   #16
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Go ahead and buy it. For a project rifle, you can always go to another caliber that uses the same parent cartridge with minimal or no work to the bolt-face, ramp, magazine, etc.
My daughter was given a nice Remington 788 in .22-250. After the original barrel was toast after several thousand rounds, we installed a short .308 barrel on it. It makes a very handy, light weight deer rifle that is very accurate. I would imaging the same could be done with the Savage.
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Old July 8, 2014, 12:14 PM   #17
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It also seemed like I could get an even higher velocity shooting light weight bullets in a 243, so I just didn't see a point to it.
Ballistic coefficient; a 55 gr .224" bullet will have superior down range velocity retention to a 55 gr .244" bullet.
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Old July 8, 2014, 12:23 PM   #18
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Man if some of you guys are saying a 22-250 is a barrel burner, I'd hate to hear your gripes on the old 220 Swift.
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Old July 8, 2014, 12:37 PM   #19
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I have owned, hand-loaded and hunted with both the 220 Swift and the 22-250. The 22-250s did not burn out the barrels and they were super accurate. The 220 Swift only had a slight speed advantage at the cost of accuracy and short barrel life.
I would still own a 22-250 if I were still hunting wolves and coyotes.
It does at 450 yards what a 223 does at 200 yards.
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Old July 9, 2014, 12:06 AM   #20
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The 220 Swift only had a slight speed advantage at the cost of accuracy and short barrel life.
Sounds like a crappy barrel problem to me.

The beauty of the .220 Swift is that you can match the top velocities of the .22-250 with a rather sedate load that is easy on brass and barrels. I run 55 grainers at 3,800 FPS. Yeah, a .22-250 can almost do that, but it's a max load. For the .220, though, it's very gentle.
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Old July 9, 2014, 12:54 AM   #21
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I don't think it matters whether you use a .243 or a 22-250 for most hunting purposes. I prefer the .243 but cannot tell you why.
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Old July 10, 2014, 06:58 PM   #22
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When Remington introduced the M788 in 22-250, they sold like hotcakes at around $100, and I did some load development for relatives and friends, and the M788 could shoot the lights out with about any load tried. I later had a Remington 40 XB in 22-250 for a time that was amazingly accurate, and was what you expect from a match rifle.
My current 22-250 is a rifle that I built myself using a medium 24" Remington 700 barrel that I threaded to fit a pristine Turk Mauser K.Kale action that I finished and fit in a Hogue overmolded stock, and that one shoots under 1/2" for 5 shots all day with the 52gr A-Max.
The beauty of the 22-250 is the ability to ballistically extend your kill range over the 222-223 cartridges by more than 100yds. It will reach out there.


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Old July 10, 2014, 07:44 PM   #23
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One of my favorites

Barrel burner? Meh, about the only gun that I have not seen rebarreled is a BB gun. Bunch of heat, pressure, etc, a barrel will wear. I have seen someone cook a 223, then someone else a swift in one range session.
( swift broke my heart as I just missed buying it, 60's gun that was a beauty until someone treated it like an AR)
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1960's gun, round count??? I have 1000+ though it and it was no safe queen based on loads and data that came with it.


Not hard to put 5 nearly into same hole at 100, frankly it gets boring, best was 0.086", not sure where that pic is.


Boring to the point I mainly use it to test new shooting equipt etc. ie like this particular shooting rest


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Old July 10, 2014, 08:24 PM   #24
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That's a sweet rifle, and with a Unertl too.


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Old July 10, 2014, 08:27 PM   #25
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I have a Savage 111 in 22-250. I have several 22-250's because, as a coyote hunter of over 30 years I can say that if I were to only have one rifle to hunt coyotes it would be a 22-250. My Savage 22-250 Model 111 has the accutrigger and accustock. I had the stock camo dipped shortly after purchasing the rifle.
Right out of the box this rifle was consistently cutting 1/2" MOA groups with several hand loads. The Savage 111 is probably the best buy for the money. This is how mine shoots:
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