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Old July 14, 2014, 11:23 AM   #26
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At my range on Long Island in New York, I would say it is about 40% AR and AK and the rest a wide mix of WWII military rifles in original or rechambered calibers, BR rifles and then .22's and such, bolt, lever and semi.
When I was a kid growing up on LI (Uniondale / E. Hempstead) area it was at least an hours drive to find a range. My dad would take me and my 22 out for the day so I could shoot. Now LI seems to have plenty of ranges, nice to see considering it is indeed NY.

I'll on the island in a few weeks to see old friends and knock down a few beers on the beach. That is one trip I don't take any guns on.

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Old July 14, 2014, 11:46 AM   #27
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Yes - at my range too. I haven't done any quantitative analysis - just gut feel from what I see. Most of the AR shooters don't appear to be interested in developing real marksmanship skills either. Shooting at 25 yards, seeing how fast they can empty a magazine, etc. Sure, I joined the AR owning club about 1 year ago (resistance was futile), but I almost hate bringing it to the range as not to be lumped in with the rest of the yahoos.
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Old July 14, 2014, 01:42 PM   #28
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I would say the AR Genie is fully out of the bottle and there will be no returning it. The rifle is so flexible, so customizable, and so accurate it will be hard for people to give it up. DI, Piston, Hybrid, or Manuel operation, I think some form of AR will be with us for a long time to come.
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Old July 14, 2014, 02:08 PM   #29
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using revo's % chart, here it is more like..

2% shoot lever actions, maybe bit more during hunting season sight-in
2% shoot revolvers
21% shoot pistols
20% shoot semi autos other than ARs (AKs, M1As, 10/22s for example)
30% shoot ARs
25% shoot bolt actions

.00001% me shooting blackpowder, sigh

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Old July 14, 2014, 04:42 PM   #30
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When I was a kid growing up on LI (Uniondale / E. Hempstead) area it was at least an hours drive to find a range. My dad would take me and my 22 out for the day so I could shoot. Now LI seems to have plenty of ranges, nice to see considering it is indeed NY.

I'll on the island in a few weeks to see old friends and knock down a few beers on the beach. That is one trip I don't take any guns on.

Ron
I hear you on that one. I moved to PA from NY 9 years ago and every month or so I take a trip to LI to visit my grandchildren and that is the trip I'm sure not to take guns on too. Just passing through NYC with a gun would give me hives! (darn shame isn't it?)
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Old July 15, 2014, 07:18 PM   #31
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The last few range trips...there were few other shooters. I saw several bolt actions in center fire and one .22 rifle. I saw one falling block .22. ( that was my grand daughter learning how to shoot )

I had my M1, Win. .30-30, K-31 Swiss....and my AR. I just bought it this year, and...I love to shoot the darn thing! I never thought I'd like it THAT much!

My wife thinks I'm a bit crazy. I still like the "big guns" but the AR is new to me so it gets a bit more trigger time.

I'm ready for another range trip!

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Old July 15, 2014, 08:08 PM   #32
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Not counting mine and a friends I have only seen one AR type rifle at our range and that was in 1998 or 1999. I know they have been there because I find brass on the ground mostly steel case almost every time I go there. I have never seen anyone hunting with one. This is a big hunting area and every school in the area is closed the opeaning day of deer season.
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Old July 15, 2014, 08:41 PM   #33
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me and my son have ar rifles. dont know a lot of other guys that do. we dont go to ranges as we have our own range. currently our rifles are dialed in but we dont shoot them a lot cuz of ammo prices. most of the hillbillys i hang with are doing good to have a decent deer rifle. everybody comes down here to site in ther rifles before deer season.

it wud be nice to see a ar or two. i can fix them. i end up werkin on crappy rossi single shots and ancheint 30-30 rifles.

its hard to understand why when yu buy a 30$ scope your rifel wont shoot good. jeez
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Old July 15, 2014, 08:47 PM   #34
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Mix but sales wise my local gun store can't keep them in stock.
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Old July 15, 2014, 09:14 PM   #35
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I frequent a unsupervised Conservation range where I know that the drunks and crazies will not drive to; once in a while, the p/u with the "Bubba" Clan will show with their old military bolt action stuff but never an AR - few and far between (at least at that range). Good shooting!
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Old July 15, 2014, 10:07 PM   #36
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The AR-15 is the most popular rifle in America, so it's only logical that they will be the most prevalent at shooting ranges.
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Old July 16, 2014, 12:13 AM   #37
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The two ranges I go to show a majority AR 15's. It's amazing how many AR 15 rifles have been sold just in the last 5 1/2 years all across the country. Wonder what the motive for such a buying spree?
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Old July 16, 2014, 02:23 PM   #38
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Don't know because my local range closed because their insurance company refused to renew their coverage.
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Old July 16, 2014, 11:47 PM   #39
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It is the trend everywhere. It is a late, and IMO pretty amazing, trend in CA.

At my usual range the ratio for rifles is about 50% AR (including .308 versions), 25% combloc semi-auto ("AK"s), 10% 10/22s, 10% bolt action hunting rifles, and 5% everything else (lever guns, bullpups, single shots, misc. other .22s, etc).

Before I left California the state of ARs there was bleak and marginal. I never saw them when I went shooting. There were a few FFLs who were willing to transfer "Off-list Lowers", and a whole bunch of hoop jumping and wishful thinking. Guys were bolting magazines in place and popping the rear pin to reload. Guys were buying dozens of off list lowers in the hopes that CA would ban them, allowing the owner to register them all as California Assault Weapons so they could have pistol grips and detachable magazines at the same time. Guys were designing lower receivers that didn't have pistol grips but would take a standard AR upper.

I visited a California gun store in December of 2006 and there wasn't a single "black rifle" in the place. The most evil looking gun was a Remington 870 shotgun with synthetic stock and pistol grip.

In January of 2007, at about the same time I was pulling a moving trailer out of the state towards my new home in Texas, the first of the modern AR "bullet button" setups was being finalized. This is something that had been talked about on calguns.net for a few years but someone made it happen.

Fast forward to last month. I was visiting California and stopped in at that same gun store I had last seen in 2006. Not to buy anything, but out of macabre curiosity after years of being able to buy just about anything with far fewer silly laws to hold me back. What did I see?

At least half their inventory was AR-pattern rifles. They had 5.56 and 7.62, they had some 6.5 models. They had a wall with various AR magazines (all 10rd of course). Same store, total change. From a distance it looked like the first gun store I visited after moving to TX in 2007. Of course they were all set up with bullet buttons, but it was really amazing to see the results of 7 years positive effort.

I didn't go to a shooting range during my visit. BLM land in the Mojave, yes, but nowhere I had to shoot within sight of other humans. I almost wish I had. I bet I would have been pleasantly surprised at the number of AR type rifles.

Anyway, to answer the question: they are extremely common in most of the US (by land area), and California is playing delayed catch-up with a huge trend...which I suspect bugs a lot of California polits no end.
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Old July 17, 2014, 12:28 AM   #40
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Yep mostly ARs on my range in central Tx. most are in .556 but a good number of .308. They look at me a little strange, still shooting my .222 Anschutz.
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Old July 18, 2014, 02:33 PM   #41
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Up here, ARs are marginal and still frowned upon by some. Out of twenty to thirty shooters on the line, we might see one or two ARs sometimes, not all the times. Bolt is king, there is a mix of the other actions, semi possibly being second to bolt. Wood is also still far ahead of synthetic. A little more laminate than in the past, but solid wood is by far dominant. Also, most are older gents shooting old rifles. Young shooters are not numerous. Ladies are formidably rarely seen.
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Old July 18, 2014, 02:40 PM   #42
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In Illinois, my range 90% AR-15 , AR-10 or AK variant.

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Old July 18, 2014, 03:31 PM   #43
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I'd say AR's tend to make up about 60% of rifles i see. AK's maybe 15%, then 22's, then everything else.
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Old July 19, 2014, 02:03 PM   #44
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They are totally modular and customizable gadgets. Of course Americans love them! Prfect range guns too being accurate and inexpensive.

I'd love to see one of the 7.62 platforms become standardized as well.

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