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Old July 17, 2014, 06:57 PM   #26
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Sure they aren't as cheap as they were even 2 years ago, but they're still a bargain at the $150 cabelas was asking last time I was there.

As far as the cheap surplus ammo I've not seen any in the last 2 years under $5 for 20 with some mild discounts for buying in bulk. However, this is still cheaper than the cheapest factory offerings which are typically in the $9-12 per 20 range.
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Old July 19, 2014, 06:38 PM   #27
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Thanks for replies

Thanks for the replies! I've borrowed a very nice M44 from a family member so hopefully I'll get around to firing it within and I decide where I wanna buy one from! Once I get around to firing it I'll let y'all know!!
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Old July 19, 2014, 06:56 PM   #28
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Hi-

AIM Surplus (admittedly plus shipping and FFL since you're in Texas & not Ohio)...

For those who don't want to click the link -

91/30's (didn't see any M44's)
Round receiver - 130
Hex receiver (seen as more desirable by some) - 150 (currently out)
Tula (seen as more desirable by some collectors than Izhevsk) - 140
Add $10 if you want them to pull five and then pick the best of that handful for you. My experience with AIM has been good (buying ammo, though - not guns) but I'd be inclined to trust them to give $10 worth of value for that fee.

I would put their prices for Finnish but those are all currently sold out. Low was $400.

Ammo (Russian) - $200 plus $25 shipping anywhere in the US for 880 rounds (two spam cans).

Personally I buy the NC brass stuff from them - they're out right now but generally have not too painful prices on that stuff.

Hope this helps.

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Old July 20, 2014, 04:29 PM   #29
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What is the consensus from everyone about the 'Molot' Mosin Nagants you can buy off of places like classicfirearms.com?? I've heard some people don't like 'em.

Thanks in advance.
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Old July 21, 2014, 06:20 AM   #30
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No problem with Molot, they are just the Russian exporters, not manufacturers or such.
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Old July 23, 2014, 01:34 AM   #31
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No problem with Molot, they are just the Russian exporters, not manufacturers or such.
I agree the Molots are ok. Collectors snub them because they are considered to be recent re-arsenals and w/out historical value...they are exported as sporting/hunting rifles.

I bought one of the $89 specials from classic and it was all matching numbers from Tula...good shooter too.
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Old July 23, 2014, 09:53 AM   #32
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After reading the entire thread I am feeling very blessed by my LGS......I picked up one 91/30 for $150 and a 44 for $100 OTD a couple of months ago.

These are in storage right now waiting for my birthday to come later this year........

Both swimming in cosmo with all the normal accessories included and the final bonus to the purchase besides the nice prices was that my LGS let's the customer pick their rifle from the shipping crate they arrived to him in.......

I took my time picking over all the rifles in the lots going over fit, feel, furniture condition, metal condition, date stamps, etc.........

Can't wait to open my birthday presents, clean them up and head to the range with spam can in tow........
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Old July 23, 2014, 01:59 PM   #33
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At $100, you stole the M44. Nice pick up. I like my 91/30, but want a M44 to go with it.
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Old July 23, 2014, 09:57 PM   #34
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At $100, you stole the M44. Nice pick up. I like my 91/30, but want a M44 to go with it.
Check Wideners...$169 last week
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Old July 23, 2014, 10:19 PM   #35
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I've got 4 mosins. My favorite is the Finn M39, hands down. It's worth the money, and you should get one while prives are reasonable. As for 91/30's I bought a Molot form classic for $118 to my door (thank you C&R license) its the nicest 91/30 i have.

But if you want a standard 91/30, it's best to hand pick one. I advise you to take a look at http://www.themosincrate.com

Good quality firearms, reasonable prices, and you get the very one shown. the guy is a collector and is selling off some of his collection. some prices may seem high, but it's fully explained why. but hey, you can take a chance and order one you've never seen, or pay a hefty price for junk at your local LGS.
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Old July 25, 2014, 08:47 PM   #36
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Don't buy Mosins. They will have nuprotected sex when your at work and you will end up with more then you will know what to do with.
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Old July 25, 2014, 09:16 PM   #37
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Don't buy Mosins. They will have nuprotected sex when your at work and you will end up with more then you will know what to do with.
Haha!

A Spanish Civil War specimen turned up at my door the other day. He had a carpet bag slung over his shoulder and a five day's beard. I felt so much pity for him I just HAD to house and feed him. He likes to eat Russian surplus....who knew??
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Old July 26, 2014, 06:47 AM   #38
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And now I'm jealous again, Gunny.
Here and I thought I was lucky for getting Ivan for $69.95.
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Old July 26, 2014, 07:03 PM   #39
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Jg sales has m44's for 199. Having about a dozen mosins. The m38 and m44 are the best. Nice and short. I like the 44 for having a bayonet
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Old July 26, 2014, 09:57 PM   #40
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Accuracy questions

About what kind of accuracy can I expect out of an M44 Mosin? I mean, I know that they are by no means the most accurate rifle of their era but I would definitely like to at least to be able shoot decent sized targets at 200 or 300 yards.

Another question, has anyone ever bad luck with a Mosin from J&G, classic firearms, or Wideners?

Last one, many of these websites, classic firearms and Wideners (I've only checked Wideners) require memberships to order and Wideners req's you to be 21 y/o, I've never ordered a firearm before so I was wondering, do you have to be 21 y/o to order ANY kind of firearm of the internet even if it is a C&R gun, if so then I'm hosed for another 13 months.
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Old July 26, 2014, 09:59 PM   #41
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What is the consensus from everyone about the 'Molot' Mosin Nagants you can buy off of places like classicfirearms.com?? I've heard some people don't like 'em.

Thanks in advance.
I've had the Molots come through my shop and I liked them a LOT. Clean! Very "discrete" import marks. I'd take them again any day.
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Old July 27, 2014, 01:45 AM   #42
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About what kind of accuracy can I expect out of an M44 Mosin? I mean, I know that they are by no means the most accurate rifle of their era but I would definitely like to at least to be able shoot decent sized targets at 200 or 300 yards.
The last vintage match I shot with my 91/30 using surplus ammo shooting off a front sand bag was a 403/500 (8 ring average) with the 8 ring being 6". So that's 50 rds at a 100 yards on a 6" plate with iron sights. Winner was shooting a sniper version with a scope and shot a 494/500 with a 2" 10 ring. At 240yds I can keep it on a 12" plate 4 out of 5 off a bench and front sand bag. If it has a decent bbl it'll probably shoot as good as most shooters.
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Old July 27, 2014, 08:09 PM   #43
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GunnyUSMC, you've got a very impressive collection of Mosins!!
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Old July 27, 2014, 08:58 PM   #44
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Everything that you ever wanted to know (and more) about Mosins can be found here: http://7.62x54r.net/
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Old July 27, 2014, 09:07 PM   #45
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GunnyUSMC, you've got a very impressive collection of Mosins!!
Thank you. I have never been a big fan of the Mosin rifle, But they just keep turning up. I like Turkish Mausers the most.

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A Spanish Civil War specimen turned up at my door the other day. He had a carpet bag slung over his shoulder and a five day's beard. I felt so much pity for him I just HAD to house and feed him. He likes to eat Russian surplus....who knew??
Your right about those Spaniards. I have four or five of them and I think they are the root of the problem and the number of Mosins I have.

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Jg sales has m44's for 199. Having about a dozen mosins. The m38 and m44 are the best. Nice and short. I like the 44 for having a bayonet
Unprotected Mosin sex will lead to Carbins.


The Finn Mosins have remained neutral while at the house and the M91 stay to themselves.
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Old July 27, 2014, 09:57 PM   #46
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Love my m44 carbine I just picked up for 100$

Now for a 91/30


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Old July 30, 2014, 08:40 PM   #47
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How much money would y'all say your average Finnish Mosin is worth? I remember there has been a vendor at the gun show who has had one on his table for last few times I've been there.
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How much money would y'all say your average Finnish Mosin is worth? I remember there has been a vendor at the gun show who has had one on his table for last few times I've been there.
Depends on manufacturer, year, condition and stock (early straight stocks are worth more) But the price ranges from $350-$600 depending on what you have.

This website will give you an idea, it's where i bought mine, i highly recommend http://www.gunsnammo.com
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Old July 30, 2014, 10:19 PM   #49
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I just clicked on that link, and apparently she hasn't updated the site with new rifles yet. but keep checking back. (Pat is short for Patricia)
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[quote "Thompson9494"] How much money would y'all say your average Finnish Mosin is worth? I remember there has been a vendor at the gun show who has had one on his table for last few times I've been there. [/quote]

Now which Finn rifle are you asking about. You have what is called Finn captured rifle which are Russian made but put into service by the Finns, M91, M91 Dragoon, 91/30 and the M38.
Then there are the Finn rifles built, M91, M91 Dragoon, 91/30 M24, M27, M28/30 and the M39. These are just a few and there are variants in most models.
Price can start at $250 and go into the thousands.
A Finn M91 will sell for around $300 and then a Dragoon will sell from $300 to $500 depending on what it has on it.
This Finn marked M91 Dragoon is valued at approx. $400. It has the early solid Dragoon bands and a cut down early hand guard.
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