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Old July 22, 2014, 03:09 AM   #1
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Grinds My Firearm Gears

When it comes to firearms, what grinds your gears?

For me, its idiots who don't take care of their firearms.

I had a Bersa Thunder380 a while back. I really liked it for conceal carry. I only had one real issue with it and that was with the exceptionally long beaver tail. It was fine when I was walking around. However, when I sat down, especially in my car, the beaver tail would poke me in my lower ribs. Being tired of that issue, I decided to trade it in on something else that would work as a CCW. When it was traded it was impeccable, or at least it was for a Bersa.

About a year later I found my old Bersa back at the pawnshop sitting in the used firearm case. I thought I recognized it so curiosity led me to have them check their records. Sure enough, it was my old Bersa. I was irritated at the horrible shape it was in.

Needless to say, I bought it back. I'll take it to my smithy and have him repair the gouges, have him take some of the beaver tail off and give it a nice cerakote finish. Afterwords, I may even try carrying it again.

Well, that's my story, what's yours? What really grinds your firearm gears?
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Old July 22, 2014, 05:32 AM   #2
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I have cleaned some firearms for people many times. Some are 'knowledgable', some not. When some 'expert' shows me a rusty piece stored in a foam lined case or leather holster I cringe.

I clean, I oil, I inform. What else can you do?
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Old July 22, 2014, 07:45 AM   #3
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If it isn't yours I don't see why you'd care...much less get upset.
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Old July 22, 2014, 08:21 AM   #4
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If it isn't yours I don't see why you'd care...much less get upset.
Agreed. Unless a gun or other item has some kind of collector value that is being ruined by a careless owner, I really don't give a rat's patootie how someone treats their personal property (although I do feel it speaks to their character)
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Old July 22, 2014, 08:56 AM   #5
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Hate seeing rust and/or built up gunk on anything, especially when just some basic cleaning and preventive maintenance would take care of the problem. Having said that, while I may cringe a little bit inside when someone asks for help with their abused/neglected gun, it's not my gun so I really don't get all that bothered by it.
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Old July 22, 2014, 08:56 AM   #6
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When it comes to firearms, what grinds your gears?
People who refinish milsurp stocks with one of the oil-varnish products (e.g., Formby's or Minwax Tung Oil Finish, Danish Oil Finish, etc) and claim, some thru passing ignorance, that it is an "oil" finish, rather than what it really is; varnish.

I find that a bit annoying, especially when they are strangely resistant to accepting the fact that they are actually varnishing the stock ... even when you point out that the MFR label states that it is a varnish.

If that were the end of it, I wouldn't care as much ... but a lot of these rifles eventually end up being sold, many online, as sporting an oil-finish stock.
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Old July 22, 2014, 09:24 AM   #7
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What grinds my gears is when someone posts a rifle on gunbroker, not having the best images, and failing to state that it has pitting and some rust.

What grinds my firearm gears is people using the phrase, "that's a nice little plinker there".

Other firearms gear grinders:

Huge markups on 22lr at gunshows.

"What?! Why don't you own a Glock?!! They're the best!!"

Higher ammo prices, and empty shelves where 22lr and 9mm should be.

Gun ranges with WAY too strict of rules [ie. "3 seconds between shots"], or "only two persons in the lane at a time".
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Old July 22, 2014, 10:00 AM   #8
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While I have a problem when folks abuse my firearms, I care less what they do to their own as long as they don't point 'em at me. I also have a problem when folks that don't know me at all, or know my priorities and needs, feel the need to tell how their firearm is a better choice for me.
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Old July 22, 2014, 10:38 AM   #9
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Went to a range with a few other people once to go shooting. One of the firearms was a NHM-91 AK. Problem was it was light strike misfiring every third round or so. Brother and I took it to our house to troubleshoot. Turns out the owner used Vaseline to "clean it" instead of regular gun oil. Took us about an hour to dissolve all the vaseline off the firing pin. Makes me want to start an abused firearms rescue organization.
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Old July 22, 2014, 11:57 AM   #10
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What gets my gears is when people with more opinions than facts chime in on a post that has really nothing to do with the original question.

They just have to shoot their wad with the limited knowledge they have.

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Old July 22, 2014, 12:04 PM   #11
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Apathy or tunnel vision is a sore spot for me. It usually feeds in all directions for these fine individuals. Sometimes the attitude that the instrument was built to function in "extremes". HA!
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Old July 22, 2014, 12:10 PM   #12
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DR. ROB foam lined case

Newbie here about storing pistols/revolvers in foam lined soft rug, I finally got a gun safe and after cleaning/lightly oiling my firearms I put them in foam lined soft rugs with a silica gell pack.
Bad practice??
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Old July 22, 2014, 01:03 PM   #13
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I finally got a gun safe and after cleaning/lightly oiling my firearms I put them in foam lined soft rugs with a silica gell pack.
The problem is that humidity absorbs into the fabric and then sits against the metal, oxidizing it, rather than evaporating. Even here in CO, a very dry climate, one good, heavy rain storm will produce humidity sufficient to cause corrosion to a firearm cased in such a manner. The little desiccant packs don't really help.
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Old July 22, 2014, 01:10 PM   #14
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thanks for your input!
I will get the big "gun safe rechargable" packs and take my pistols/revolvers out of rugs, lay on carpeted shelves, untill I can get pistol pockets or pistol shelves to fit safe.

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Old July 22, 2014, 01:30 PM   #15
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Open shelf storage is better than in a foam box.
I look at a gun as functional Art. I enjoy the lines and curves of even the most common gun. And the way the parts work together to do what they do. So yes sometimes I am bothered by the abuse of a gun that is not mine.
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Old July 22, 2014, 01:43 PM   #16
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Your gun.....

When people(sometimes strangers) come up to you & tell you what you should do with your gun or what they think are the gun laws.
They need to learn the law not what they think is the law.
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Old July 22, 2014, 02:19 PM   #17
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Hi Jell-dog;
For storage in your safe, consider wire pistol racks made to sit on shelves. That way your nice sidearms do not lay on carpet (they can't "breath", and may rust on the side laying down), and you will be able to fit many more into the safe. The air can better circulate around guns stored, and rust will be less likely. Midway sells some really good wire racks.
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Old July 22, 2014, 02:41 PM   #18
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My LSG where I purchased safe also suggested the wire racks and gave be web sites to look them over, great ideas all!

What gets my gears is when newbies like me hijack a thread

Also, What gets my gears is guys at range who say "nice gun, but you shoulda got......", then I say, "well maybe, lets see how it shoots" (first time out with my S&W 686-5 + 4" barrel).
At 10 yards I hit X, 9,8 rings first 7 rounds with 1 flyer.
No more comments from "gun expert"
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Old July 22, 2014, 03:01 PM   #19
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^^^It's all good my friend!
What grinds my gears are: Poor gun handling skills, unsafe behavior, leaving trash behind, and any kind of vandalism.
I NEVER comment (unless asked) about another's choice of firearm; If you can't say something nice, don't say anything. Choices in firearms are often very personal; I'm just happy that they are safely exercising their constitutional rights to begin with.
BTW, the 686 is a great gun. My 4" version is, like your's, a tack-driver. Enjoy it!
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Old July 22, 2014, 03:34 PM   #20
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People asking NIB prices for used guns.

Gun rights "supporters" who believe in "common sense" gun laws.
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Old July 22, 2014, 04:47 PM   #21
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Didn't do any grinding, but when my F-I-L showed me his Colt collection, they were all rust. He hadn't looked after them for years. Just made me sad that what was beautiful was now junk.
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Old July 22, 2014, 04:52 PM   #22
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Quite frankly, that hurts just reading it.
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Old July 22, 2014, 05:30 PM   #23
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When random people at the range approach me and ask to shoot whatever I bring for the day. After one comes to ask, and I let them, it's just a domino effect from there.
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Old July 22, 2014, 05:39 PM   #24
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Mad.....

My grandfather passed on in 1979. He had a nice gun cabinet with 4/5 rifles & shotguns. My father , never checked the weapons or even cleaned-oiled them.
I asked my older sister about the guns about 8mo ago & her response trailed off.
I don't live in the same area & my father's not going anywhere for awhile so those firearms will just sit & rust.
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Old July 22, 2014, 05:59 PM   #25
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People asking NIB prices for used guns.
I used to be puzzled by that until I saw people readily pay it! My son has sold guns several times for very close to NIB prices. The buyers apparently didn't want records or were just stupid or both.
He just sold an older Glock 26 that was pitted from sweaty daily carry for years...for near what a NEW gen4 costs!
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