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And it's being given by Ms. Sarah Kemp Brady ('64)
Why her? Last year we had astronaut David Brown speak. The year prior, Michael Powell. If she keeps it non-political I won't mind a bit, but given the current '94 ban situation, I dunno if that's possible. How do I voice my displeasure without standing out too much or being offensive? I do not want to draw a whole lot of attention to myself. I do not want to get in any arguments. Maybe I'll just bring pen and paper, write down notes while she speaks and write a letter to the editor of the school paper afterwards... Sigh. Strange, this happening right when we're getting our campus gun club started. Probably just coincidence, but it makes ya go HMMM...
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What's wrong with attention?
![]() I'd give quite a bit to be able to debate Brady in front of an audience. Being that you want to keep it low-key, bring your pen and notebook, but I'd also bring along a cheat sheet of some real gun facts...just in case.
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Stand up and turn your back to her. Get some of your buddies to do the same.
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If she goes political, unroll a nice big poster of a caribean sunset
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Write the school president and ask why this woman, who's only claim to fame is being the wife of somebody shot in a Presidential assasination attempt and a big mouth, is invited to speak. Ask if the school is promoting anti-freedom agenda.
You could also hold up a sign asking how well that shot gun is working she bought a year or two ago that got her into trouble. I say, raise as much of a stink as posbbile including protesting at the site. The mear fact of allowing her to speak is "political."
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Me?
I'd say "liar" outloud like I was coughing. I'd also pass out "correction info" fliers to people on their way in and out
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Wear an under-shirt with LIAR in large print on it on the front AND back.
As soon as (not "if", what else would this bit*h have to say?) she starts spouting, time to let everyone else know what you think. Might get other people to ask why. |
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Wear gun-related shirts and get there early to get front row if possible.
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How about that "Celebrate Diversity" style t-shirt that shows a whole bunch of 1911/1911-A1 variants?
Or a lot of "AR-15" models?
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http://www.armalite.com/sales/catalog/clothing.htm
or http://www.bushmaster.com/shopping/accessories/ get yourself a nice t-shirt (or polo shirt since you should probably be a little better dressed then t-shirts and jeans) Print out a bunch of these http://www.gunfacts.info/AWBrief.pdf and hand them out
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Be nice to her. Offer her a carton of cigs. Unfiltered. Full strength
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Jim, that's just cruel. But you reminded me of a great t-shirt possibility:
Sarah Brady's secondhand smoke has killed more people than my gun!
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Ingredients:
1 Bullhorn 1 copy of AW Ban report from this thread 1 highlighter 20 bookmarks Highlight and bookmark report as needed. When she starts the dribble about the AW ban pull out the bull horn and start reading how AWs have never been used with any frequency in crime. Kharn |
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What would you want her to do if it was you that was speaking?
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Personally, I think that her being the speaker is totally inappropriate, and you should start raising a stink now. Letters to the school paper, call up the administrative office and voice your displeasure at having a day celebrating your intellectual achievement being hijacked for a cheap political ploy. Consider contacting as many alumni as you can, especially if they donate money to the school. Let us know what school you're at. With over 12,000 members, we've probably got a few who graduated from your institution. Above all, don't tip your hand about being pro-gun. Just being offended over the fact that such a politically controversial speaker is co-opting your day in the sun to stump to a captive audience should be enough. Sarah Brady is a bigot, and she shouldn't be allowed any more public air time than the likes of David Duke. If all of this fails, and she remains the speaker, I will give you mad props if you launch a carton of smokes up to the stage while she's speaking.
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Justin, it's Convocation, not Commencement... it's a ceremony to welcome the incoming freshmen. The speaker gives a speech to the freshmen and whoever of the faculty/current students decides to show up (usually not too many) then the freshmen walk through a big arch and are greeted by the older students.
(And what's the thing with the smokes guys? I'm not getting that...) Geekwitha.45, I like your idea. I think I'm just going to go with the passive route and write to the paper if she pulls any funny stuff.
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...from being a compulsive chain smoker.
Undertoad- My bad. I totally misread your post.
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Convocation = let the indoctrination begin.
I really would like to know what school this involves: alumni pressure can be effective. It would be interesting to know who selected the speaker. I wonder too if Mike Adams (columnist) and Neal Boortz would be willing to address this.
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I suppose that somewhere out there an anti is happy that I have cancer.
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I would email some high ranking faculty and let them know some of the lies her organization has told in the past, they should be easy to dig up....and THREATEN to write a letter to various gun groups, news outlets, and parents illustrating those lies, and asking why the school would choose such a poor represenative of truthfulness and honesty to speak to the class. Ask them if there is a specific political motive behind bringing her there. Make your questions raise MORE questions i.e....
"Why does the school not consider credibility in choosing the commencment speakers? Then why have they allowed someone with a decades long record of misinforming the public(exmaple: Lie#1, lie#2 etc...), the opportunity to voice her rhetoric at this intellectual institution?" "What is the political motive of having a special interest figurehead speak at this institution?" "Does this institution contribute money to extremist/special interest groups whose goal it is to misinform the public about second amendment and safety issues?" "Is the curricullum of this school influenced by other known and proven extremist groups who the ATF calls "misleading"? "Is there a political motive behind bringing in a leftist gun ban group that has proven to decieve millions of Americans on their right to bear arms?" "Do parents of the students know that the school provides pulpits for extremist groups to indoctrinate their children with lies?" "Has their ever been an NRA firearm safety course on campus?" "When will there be an opportunity to counter her lies?"
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Convocation, commencement, Bar Mitzvah, Communion, whatever....
Captive audience, politically-motivated speaker.... Start writing _now_, and ask 'em if David Dukes can speak too.... See who shows up They're using your money to promote a cause you object to. Make sure you tell them about it, now, and get as many friends as you can to do the same. If there's a CC "group" nearby, or a "guns" group handy (including the NRA if you ask them), they should join the protest too. Also release it to the newspapers. If you're trying to be "unobtrusive", see if the "group" will do that without mentioning your name. Stop her _before_ she can speak if possible.... About 30 years ago, I had the [pick an adjective] to be on the Security Detail when George Wallace came here during his Presidential campaign. I wouldn't vote for the guy for garbageman, but he had the courage to stand up there and duck the rocks that some people were throwing. BUT, nobody who was there except the LEO's _had_ to be there. I wonder if Brady would duck those rocks.... The gal just doesn't get it. If nothing else (and I hate to invoke this), 9/11 proved that "surrender" isn't a good option. "Give 'em the plane" just doesn't cut it. Didn't work in the 30's (Munich), 9/11, or "yesterday afternoon" someplace where some LAC got mugged. I also know that if Wallace had a captive audience, a good many of them would have stood up and faced the rear of the building. (Wallace's speech was outdoors. Better rocks there, and not on University property, although not too far a walk. )
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Okay, after googling this, the school is The College of William and Mary. I happen to be an alumnus of that institution and will be contacting the college to learn the particulars of her selection as convocation speaker.
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"Does the school allow a pulpit for other groups who seek to infringe on liberties, such as the KKK?"
"Does the school believe that the Bill of Rights as written by the founding fathers should be allowed to be distorted by special interest groups with proven credibility shortfalls?" Send me their email addresses...I'll ask some questions.
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