TimSr
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Or get the message out that property owners who shoot dogs for trespassing can be charged with a crime in most states.
Your first two sentences made good sense. Not so much after that.
Not again.......! Feral Hog Control in East Texas
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Or get the message out that property owners who shoot dogs for trespassing can be charged with a crime in most states.
Your first two sentences made good sense. Not so much after that.
dogrunner
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"Shoot the dog"?
Man, that poor animal can't read. The TOT animal control makes sense, shooting it lacks even common decency!
I once knew a fellow that had several pure bred walkers that got on a private parcel shot by a screwball landowner.....that fella was later was surprised to find several of his pure bred arabians with small caliber bullets in their guts!
My understanding was that the dog shooting stopped thereafter.
THAT is what the conduct described can easily lead to!
Man, that poor animal can't read. The TOT animal control makes sense, shooting it lacks even common decency!
I once knew a fellow that had several pure bred walkers that got on a private parcel shot by a screwball landowner.....that fella was later was surprised to find several of his pure bred arabians with small caliber bullets in their guts!
My understanding was that the dog shooting stopped thereafter.
THAT is what the conduct described can easily lead to!
Stony
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I have shot a dog on occasion, but I don't take the situation lightly. I had a group of pit bulls last season that were chasing deer on the property. I gave them the benefit of the doubt the first time I saw them. The next time I was sitting in a deer stand when some does came through running for their lives...and the pits right behind them. I was using a .62 percussion rifle, and could only get one of them...but the rest disappeared and haven't seen them since.
Catching trespassers in the dark in the really dense woods around here..in the middle of the night is a tough proposition. I keep a lot of cameras out and the land is posted..but it's still difficult.
Catching trespassers in the dark in the really dense woods around here..in the middle of the night is a tough proposition. I keep a lot of cameras out and the land is posted..but it's still difficult.
LeonCarr
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Nice Job!
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Just my .02,
LeonCarr
Stony
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Nice job....I love the look of a bunch of hogs like that in the back of a truck.
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Flintknapper
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Blasted Hog Doggers at it again.
Been watching a group of hogs at one of my bait stations for about a week now, waiting for them to start coming in at an earlier time (before midnight). They gradually got to where they were showing up at about 10 p.m. AND a couple of medium sized boars had joined the group.
So, this last Sunday night I went to go sit on stand and wait. Conditions were pretty much perfect, cool North breeze blowing directly from the bait site to me. Half moon up overhead. No pressure on that stand for about a month.
Stayed on stand until 12:30 a.m., nothing but raccoons and deer were seen. Went and pulled my game-cam cards today and found video of three hog dogs running past one of them earlier in the DAY (about 3 p.m.). Don't know if they were lost from the night before or running that day, but they darn sure were on MY property.
Getting REALLY tired of having my efforts thwarted by someone else's inability to control their dogs, or cavalier attitude about where they roam.
Been watching a group of hogs at one of my bait stations for about a week now, waiting for them to start coming in at an earlier time (before midnight). They gradually got to where they were showing up at about 10 p.m. AND a couple of medium sized boars had joined the group.
So, this last Sunday night I went to go sit on stand and wait. Conditions were pretty much perfect, cool North breeze blowing directly from the bait site to me. Half moon up overhead. No pressure on that stand for about a month.
Stayed on stand until 12:30 a.m., nothing but raccoons and deer were seen. Went and pulled my game-cam cards today and found video of three hog dogs running past one of them earlier in the DAY (about 3 p.m.). Don't know if they were lost from the night before or running that day, but they darn sure were on MY property.
Getting REALLY tired of having my efforts thwarted by someone else's inability to control their dogs, or cavalier attitude about where they roam.
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Flintknapper
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Thought I'd go sit on stand for a bit this evening. Not expecting to see the 'group' of hogs I had coming in (before the hog dogs ruined that)....and sure enough they didn't show.
But I did have a lone boar show up about 9:00 p.m.
The bait site is 100 yards from my stand and is lit up with a red LED light, but with the moon out tonight it creates kind of a twilight effect and actually makes it harder to see anything under the light.
I thought I saw a little movement way out on the edge of the light, so I picked up my binoculars to take a closer look. I could just make out the outline of a pig feeding at the periphery of the light but darting away.
Since it was all by itself....I figured it to be a 'Boar'. It was very skittish about going under/into the light....but after about 20 minutes finally moved into the light enough that I could see it clearly through the 4 power scope.
I centered the illuminated dot high on the shoulder and steadily pressed the two stage trigger. The rifle bucked and I could hear the 'crack' of the 405 grain soft-point as it made impact.
Recovering from the recoil....I looked through the scope to see a familiar scene. My hog right there....no so much as a twitch from it. I continue to be amazed at how effective a Big Bore cartridge at medium velocity can be.
This wasn't a giant hog by any means. Kind of 'lanky' actually. Still...it taped out at 44" (heart girth) and 52" from snout to base of tail. I'd estimate its weight at approximately 220 lbs., not that I care what they weigh. I'm just happy to get another one out of the breeding pool.
^^^^^ My apologies for the poor quality cell phone pics. I need to start taking my camera with me again.
Flint.
But I did have a lone boar show up about 9:00 p.m.
The bait site is 100 yards from my stand and is lit up with a red LED light, but with the moon out tonight it creates kind of a twilight effect and actually makes it harder to see anything under the light.
I thought I saw a little movement way out on the edge of the light, so I picked up my binoculars to take a closer look. I could just make out the outline of a pig feeding at the periphery of the light but darting away.
Since it was all by itself....I figured it to be a 'Boar'. It was very skittish about going under/into the light....but after about 20 minutes finally moved into the light enough that I could see it clearly through the 4 power scope.
I centered the illuminated dot high on the shoulder and steadily pressed the two stage trigger. The rifle bucked and I could hear the 'crack' of the 405 grain soft-point as it made impact.
Recovering from the recoil....I looked through the scope to see a familiar scene. My hog right there....no so much as a twitch from it. I continue to be amazed at how effective a Big Bore cartridge at medium velocity can be.
This wasn't a giant hog by any means. Kind of 'lanky' actually. Still...it taped out at 44" (heart girth) and 52" from snout to base of tail. I'd estimate its weight at approximately 220 lbs., not that I care what they weigh. I'm just happy to get another one out of the breeding pool.
^^^^^ My apologies for the poor quality cell phone pics. I need to start taking my camera with me again.
Flint.
Nice shooting flint, good looking ham there too. Im guessing ur shooting a .458?
We have similar issues with pig hunters and their dogs here in hawaii, alot of guys run their dogs at night (which is illegal here), and most of them arnt trained to stay near the hunters. Ive had feral dogs attack my animals twice, and have had runnins with dogs while hunting. Now im always leary of them, but most are fairly friendly.....the owners on the otherhand....
We have similar issues with pig hunters and their dogs here in hawaii, alot of guys run their dogs at night (which is illegal here), and most of them arnt trained to stay near the hunters. Ive had feral dogs attack my animals twice, and have had runnins with dogs while hunting. Now im always leary of them, but most are fairly friendly.....the owners on the otherhand....
Stony
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Good shooting Flint....and another one bites the dust.
I've had a couple pretty good sized boars working one feeder pretty regularly, but unfortunately I'm in the process of moving and downsizing to a smaller house and property ( old guy stuff)...and haven't had the time or energy lately to get out after them in the night.
Keep up the good work...
I've had a couple pretty good sized boars working one feeder pretty regularly, but unfortunately I'm in the process of moving and downsizing to a smaller house and property ( old guy stuff)...and haven't had the time or energy lately to get out after them in the night.
Keep up the good work...
Hey Flint,
Are all the hogs that filthy/disgusting? It looks like it is more mud than hog (Not really but I don't recall any picture showing that much mud.) I'm thinking if I ever get to go hog hunting that I will have to take a power washer with me and hire somebody to run it. That is one nasty looking hog.
PS. Nice shot. I find myself glad for you to have that SOCOM and wanting to build one even if I don't hog hunt. What you do with that is very impressive.
Are all the hogs that filthy/disgusting? It looks like it is more mud than hog (Not really but I don't recall any picture showing that much mud.) I'm thinking if I ever get to go hog hunting that I will have to take a power washer with me and hire somebody to run it. That is one nasty looking hog.
PS. Nice shot. I find myself glad for you to have that SOCOM and wanting to build one even if I don't hog hunt. What you do with that is very impressive.
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Flintknapper
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Hi 95,
No...not all hogs are muddy like this one. We have a pond about 300 yards from this particular bait site, so during hot weather...it is not unusual for them to 'wallow' in mud before coming to the bait.
More often...they are just dripping 'wet' from having cooled off in the water, but sometimes they 'wallow' (lay down or roll in the mud).
When muddy...like this one was, they are quite a mess to handle.
I've been very pleased with the .458 SOCOM cartridge....mainly because it is so versatile and IF you re-load (I do)...you can load anything from a 100 grain (yes 100) bullet all the way to 600 gr. offerings.
I tend to use 300 gr. or heavier bullets for hogs. The ballistics of the SOCOM basically duplicate that of medium tier 45/70 loads and of course use the same diameter projectiles.
Tony Rumore of 'Tromix' fame....has recently developed a .375 SOCOM that is an interesting cartridge that would also be more than hog worthy.
No...not all hogs are muddy like this one. We have a pond about 300 yards from this particular bait site, so during hot weather...it is not unusual for them to 'wallow' in mud before coming to the bait.
More often...they are just dripping 'wet' from having cooled off in the water, but sometimes they 'wallow' (lay down or roll in the mud).
When muddy...like this one was, they are quite a mess to handle.
I've been very pleased with the .458 SOCOM cartridge....mainly because it is so versatile and IF you re-load (I do)...you can load anything from a 100 grain (yes 100) bullet all the way to 600 gr. offerings.
I tend to use 300 gr. or heavier bullets for hogs. The ballistics of the SOCOM basically duplicate that of medium tier 45/70 loads and of course use the same diameter projectiles.
Tony Rumore of 'Tromix' fame....has recently developed a .375 SOCOM that is an interesting cartridge that would also be more than hog worthy.
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Flintknapper
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95,
I just got back from pulling cards on game-cams and here is an example of a Hog (medium Boar) that has shown up at the bait site after first having cooled off in the pond.
Sorry for the poor quality pic, I took this picture from the video on my computer.
This Boar appears to have sat down in the water and drank or splashed the water around with his snout. Everywhere you see a 'dark' area...is where he is still wet with water.
I see this a LOT during the hot months. Often... hogs that are mud covered too.
I just got back from pulling cards on game-cams and here is an example of a Hog (medium Boar) that has shown up at the bait site after first having cooled off in the pond.
Sorry for the poor quality pic, I took this picture from the video on my computer.
This Boar appears to have sat down in the water and drank or splashed the water around with his snout. Everywhere you see a 'dark' area...is where he is still wet with water.
I see this a LOT during the hot months. Often... hogs that are mud covered too.
Double Naught Spy
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We see that a lot on thermal as well. You can tell the hogs that have been in the water, how deep they went, and which hogs haven't been in the water.
Hi Flint,
Thanks for the responses. I'm glad for you that they are not all that foul. I imagine you would almost need something like a hay hook (assuming that hide can be pierced by hand) to drag that one away from the feeder. Here's hoping the coyotes and buzzards finish him fast.
It's going to be a while before I can build a 458. My wife wants a red barn just because she likes the look of them (I'm going to get some use out of it by turning part of it into a hunting cabin and tractor storage.) It will be a fun project but a big one. After that hopefully I can build a SOCOM.
Thanks again.
Thanks for the responses. I'm glad for you that they are not all that foul. I imagine you would almost need something like a hay hook (assuming that hide can be pierced by hand) to drag that one away from the feeder. Here's hoping the coyotes and buzzards finish him fast.
It's going to be a while before I can build a 458. My wife wants a red barn just because she likes the look of them (I'm going to get some use out of it by turning part of it into a hunting cabin and tractor storage.) It will be a fun project but a big one. After that hopefully I can build a SOCOM.
Thanks again.
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Flintknapper
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^^^^^^^
They come all different ways.
Some are sleek and shiny:
Others are dirty/muddy/nasty:
Some have long, thick hair:
Others have short hair:
ALL of them tear up my pastures!
They come all different ways.
Some are sleek and shiny:
Others are dirty/muddy/nasty:
Some have long, thick hair:
Others have short hair:
ALL of them tear up my pastures!
Stony
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Nice pics...that's a heck of a hog in the tractor bucket!
Ole Joe Clark
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Good Morning,
Thanks for posting all the photos, things are big in Texas!
Keep up the good work.
Have a blessed day,
Leon
Thanks for posting all the photos, things are big in Texas!
Keep up the good work.
Have a blessed day,
Leon
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Flintknapper
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Stony wrote:
Yes, that was a big one. I shot him as he was walking down one of the gas pipeline's. I was going to drag him about 40 yards and under the fence into our pasture where I had my truck parked.
I knew he was big and heavy when I walked up to him, but figured I could move him that far. Well.....I dragged him about 15-20 yds and gave up. Most hogs I can simply grab by a leg and drag them out to a road or other clear spot to pick up.
This one didn't want to budge. I looked like a dog tugging on a rope.
So....I called my Father-In-Law to bring the tractor and scoop it up. Should have done that to start with.
Yes, that was a big one. I shot him as he was walking down one of the gas pipeline's. I was going to drag him about 40 yards and under the fence into our pasture where I had my truck parked.
I knew he was big and heavy when I walked up to him, but figured I could move him that far. Well.....I dragged him about 15-20 yds and gave up. Most hogs I can simply grab by a leg and drag them out to a road or other clear spot to pick up.
This one didn't want to budge. I looked like a dog tugging on a rope.
So....I called my Father-In-Law to bring the tractor and scoop it up. Should have done that to start with.
SoonerMedic
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Still super jealous you're able to shoot so many! I'm going to start souring some feeder corn and spread some scraps/rotting fruits/veggies from some of the locally owned markets so I can maybe begin to bait them in.
Stony
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I can sure relate to dragging that big one Flint. I shot one once that I figured was close to the 400 lb. mark and of course was by myself as usual. I drug it a ways behind my pickup to get it away from a feeder area and the fun started when I tried to drag it off the vehicle trail into the woods. I tied the rope to the hind quarters and around a stout branch for me to pull on. I made it maybe 5 feet off the road sweating profusely and panting. I was maybe at about a 30 degree angle backwards pulling for all I was worth when the branch broke. Needless to say I brought up some language I didn't know I had in me as I got up from the ground dusting myself off. After regaining my composure somewhat I got a shovel out of the truck and tied the rope to that handle. I maybe made it another couple of feet and decided it was far enough as far as I was concerned.
For an old guy doing a backwards summersault can sure upset your equilibrium for a little while.
For an old guy doing a backwards summersault can sure upset your equilibrium for a little while.
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Flintknapper
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Not to 'labor' the point, but this is why I don't want Hog Doggers running through our property without permission. Year 'round I am actively trapping hogs and more often than not, it involves an investment in time and bait.
It is not unusual for me to spend a week (or more) conditioning the hogs to go into a trap, only to have them run off the property by someone with no permission to be there.
I finally got this small group to start going back into the trap. I set the trigger wire last night and checked the trap this morning. Four small Boars and a Sow (Gilt).
Again, I have nothing against the 'sport' of hunting hogs with Dogs. I do consider it inefficient (when compared to other methods) but that is fine...as long as it isn't affecting me.
I prefer to take them out by the trailer load.
It is not unusual for me to spend a week (or more) conditioning the hogs to go into a trap, only to have them run off the property by someone with no permission to be there.
I finally got this small group to start going back into the trap. I set the trigger wire last night and checked the trap this morning. Four small Boars and a Sow (Gilt).
Again, I have nothing against the 'sport' of hunting hogs with Dogs. I do consider it inefficient (when compared to other methods) but that is fine...as long as it isn't affecting me.
I prefer to take them out by the trailer load.
Again great work! Running dogs, CAN be very efficient if the hunters have good dogs and know what they are doing, especially in dense cover.
It dosent look like its the ideal way to hunt pigs in your area tho...love that picture of the pig in the tractor bucket by the way LOL.
what type of trap are you using? i just made a new drop latch for my buddies pig trap, I dont think ive ever seen his catch more than a couple at a time.
It dosent look like its the ideal way to hunt pigs in your area tho...love that picture of the pig in the tractor bucket by the way LOL.
what type of trap are you using? i just made a new drop latch for my buddies pig trap, I dont think ive ever seen his catch more than a couple at a time.
