Need help with pid Mauser rifle

It's definitely a Turkish Mauser. Looks like a M38 that was shortened and the sights removed. The rear sight had a large head screw that locked the handguard down. It should be 8x57. What makes you think 7x57. Heres a great site for Turk Mausers.
http://www.turkmauser.com/

Ankara, Turkey. Should be 8mm. I'd make a chamber casting; Bubba might have re-barreled it too.

https://www.libertytreecollectors.com/productcart/pc/viewCategories.asp?idCategory=49

https://www.buymilsurp.com/rifle-pa...r-rifles-other-c-3548_95.html?page=3&sort=20a

Barrel is not military profile, obvious replacement to 7mm.
Bolt handle is odd screw on to clear scope instead of the nice custom forged or welded alteration.
Hope you did not pay a lot for this pig in a poke.

If it shoots well, keep it as a nice light hunting carbine, the 7x57 is an excellent all around caliber. to try and restore it to any resemblance of it's military origins would not be cost effective, what it would cost you , you could buy two very nice capture K98s. JMO>

I thought some early Turkish Mausers were barreled in 7x57 and then later re-chambered for 8MM (7.92x57)?

dh1633pm said:

I thought some early Turkish Mausers were barreled in 7x57 and then later re-chambered for 8MM (7.92x57)?

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No. Many early rifles the Turks bought were 7.65x53 often called Argentine. That was a .311/.312 diameter bullet. Not 7x57 (.284). Can you remove the handguard so we can see if the barrel is tapered or has "steps" that a military barrel has. Thanks.

That definitely is a bubba special including the bolt. The good news is that the Turks reportedly re heat treated their older Mauser receivers (these are generically known as Model 38's) so you should be good to go on receiver strength for most stuff that large ring Mausers can fire. The bad news is that the Turk is a large ring that uses a small ring diameter barrel. Can't quite tell from the pictures but the unmonkeyed with Turk receiver is inset in the front ring for completely covering the junction of the barrel and receiver face. Most converting these to sporters grind this lip on the receiver until it is flush with the actual receiver face. Otherwise, your choice in barrels without lathework to fit it can be limited.

Steve Wagner has a website for amateur gunsmithing and goes into quite a bit of detail on the Turkish Mausers and how to sporter them with great commentary and step by step pictures.
http://www.gswagner.com/

Model 38's had a 8mm small ring barrel as issued. Thus, if it is a 7.65x53, it should be easy to remove as it is not original to the firearm. Those barrels are actually pretty rare and you might be able to sell it for a decent price to a hardcore Turk Mauser collector through gunboards. Unaltered old 1893 Turk Mausers are hard to find and have generally poor bores to boot and so such a barrel might be of value to a restorer.

Not that hard to restore or very expensive if you want as Turk model 38 barrels, stocks, stock furniture, etc. are readily available either thru numrich (aka gunparts corp), ebay, gunbroker for reasonable prices to restore it similar to as issued.

BTW, welcome to the board Brian.

Doesn't look like any military Mauser barrel I've ever seen... I would definitely get a chamber cast. Look up cerrosafe if you are interested in learning how to do it yourself.

Is it cock on close or cock on open? I'm not exactly certain that is a large ring... I couldn't quite tell from the photos.

Okay, I give up.

Whatinna heck does "pid" mean?

Was it just a typo thatr was supposed to read "id"?

Aarond

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Looking at the keyboard, I think "pid" came out when "old" was wanted.

The receiver ring is the front part of the action where the barrel screws in.
A large ring Mauser has the receiver ring larger than the rest of the action.
Kind of slide your eyeball down the left edge of the action from rear to front. You will see a step up from the left rail to the receiver ring, that identifies it as a large ring action. A small ring action does not have that step up to a larger diameter.

The front of the receiver is the "receiver ring". They came in a couple of sizes. Here is a picture link...

http://benchrest.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=8845&d=1260162936

Let me know if you can't open it. Basically, they made the front of the receiver bigger in the 1898 version, and the label "large ring" has stuck. The picture shows the pronounced step between the ring and the rest of the receiver. I can't quite tell from your photos if it is a large ring or small. Cock on open suggests large ring, bit there is probably a cock on open small ring variant floating around out there...