Trump: '8-year assault' on Second Amendment is over

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Atlanta (CNN) President Donald Trump declared Friday that an "eight-year assault" on Second Amendment rights had come to a "crashing end" with his election.

"No longer will federal agencies be coming after law-abiding gun owners. No longer will the government be trying to undermine your rights and freedoms as Americans," Trump said during his speech to the National Rifle Association in Atlanta.

"Instead we will work with you by your side," he said.



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http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/28/politics/trump-nra-speech/
 
Things are looking up federally, but can be a different story based on the state or municipality you live in. Illinois is currently trying to push through legislation that will make it difficult for LGS' to stay in business.

Today, the Illinois Senate passed an amended version of Senate Bill 1657 by a 30-21 vote. As amended, SB 1657 would exempt big box stores from its restrictions.

SB 1657 creates an onerous gun dealer licensing scheme within the state. While the purported intent of this legislation was to enhance “responsible business practices,” this proposed legislation only proves that the intention is to close as many federally licensed firearm dealers (FFLs) as possible. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) licenses and closely monitors all FFLs and strictly enforces any infringement of federal law. SB 1657 goes far beyond federal law in its mandatory regulations and red tape imposed at the state level that it would almost assuredly force the closure of most firearm dealers, and prevent prospective owners from opening new ones. This legislation seeks to create so many department divisions, anti-gun 5-member licensing boards, and licensing fees that dealers would be forced to close through oversight by anti-gun appointees or being priced out of business.

Your NRA-ILA will continue to keep you updated as this legislation progresses through the legislative process.
 
I'd encourage all Illinois members to go to the NRA-ILA "Take Action" site and sign up, they make it easy to contact your legislators for/against good/bad Bills. You don't even have to be an NRA member as far as I can tell. Go to the State drop down box and choose Illinois. I looked at it, y'all have got a lot of work to do!
 
Things are looking up federally, but can be a different story based on the state or municipality you live in. Illinois is currently trying to push through legislation that will make it difficult for LGS' to stay in business.

Today, the Illinois Senate passed an amended version of Senate Bill 1657 by a 30-21 vote. As amended, SB 1657 would exempt big box stores from its restrictions.

SB 1657 creates an onerous gun dealer licensing scheme within the state. While the purported intent of this legislation was to enhance “responsible business practices,” this proposed legislation only proves that the intention is to close as many federally licensed firearm dealers (FFLs) as possible. The federal Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) licenses and closely monitors all FFLs and strictly enforces any infringement of federal law. SB 1657 goes far beyond federal law in its mandatory regulations and red tape imposed at the state level that it would almost assuredly force the closure of most firearm dealers, and prevent prospective owners from opening new ones. This legislation seeks to create so many department divisions, anti-gun 5-member licensing boards, and licensing fees that dealers would be forced to close through oversight by anti-gun appointees or being priced out of business.

Your NRA-ILA will continue to keep you updated as this legislation progresses through the legislative process.
you are right. states like NY Cal Mass Conn ILL have their own draconian laws. just yesterday in Mass I think cops took over 100 guns away from a guy cause a neighbor ratted him for not having the guns stored properly according to the law
 
Trump is proclaiming that the 8 year assault on gun owners is over, while all the firearms manufacturers and dealers in the audience are in tears. The next 4 years will be terrible for sales and a lot of companies will be going out of business. I guess that means the NRA will be scaring us about "President Elizabeth Warren" to get us to buy more guns.
 
Here, another Justice thinking along these same lines and the least of your problems would be gun sales or suppressors.

DISSENT #1: Stevens, joined by Souter, Ginsburg, Breyer

The Stevens dissent rests on four main points of disagreement:
  1. that the Founders would have made the individual right aspect of the Second Amendment express if that was what was intended
  2. that the "militia" preamble demands the conclusion that the Second Amendment touches on state militia service only
  3. that many lower courts' later "collective-right" reading of the Miller decision constitutes stare decisis
  4. and that the Court has not considered gun-control laws (e.g., the National Firearms Act) unconstitutional.
DISSENT #2: Breyer, joined by Stevens, Souter, Ginsburg
Justice Breyer filed a separate dissenting opinion that, even with an individual-rights view, the DC handgun ban and trigger lock requirement would nevertheless be permissible limitations on the right. The Breyer dissent concludes, "there simply is no untouchable constitutional right to keep loaded handguns in the house in crime-ridden urban areas."
 
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Anymore complaints about his first 100 days? In my opinion he did enough getting Justice Gorsuch appointed.


In an appearance on PBS’s “Charlie Rose: The Week” last Friday, U.S. Supreme Court Justice Stephen Breyer waxed philosophical on the Second Amendment, arguing—with a straight face—that the Second Amendment doesn’t protect your individual right to own a gun to protect yourself in your own home.

With smug self-assurance, the proud and haughty jurist not only misquoted —slightly—the text of the Second Amendment, but also said that in his opinion, the constitutional provision merely prevents Congress from disbanding state militias, which, he concluded with a flourish, “is not the right of an individual to keep a gun next to his bed.”
 
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Trump is proclaiming that the 8 year assault on gun owners is over, while all the firearms manufacturers and dealers in the audience are in tears. The next 4 years will be terrible for sales and a lot of companies will be going out of business. I guess that means the NRA will be scaring us about "President Elizabeth Warren" to get us to buy more guns.
yes the NRA thrives on scare tactics to drum up money. they never go on the offensive always the defensive
 
yes the NRA thrives on scare tactics to drum up money. they never go on the offensive always the defensive

That's simply not true. A prime example was stepping away from the pack and strongly supporting Trump. The NRA really put its back into it and we're just now seeing the payback.
 
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I know one thing for sure, their advertising is rife with scare tactics.

'Fer Instance?

Do you think Schumer, Fienstein, Pelosi, Clinton, et. al. wouldn't have their 1994 wet dream of "Mr & Mrs Americal turn them all in!" by now without the NRA?

Do you actually think four more years of Obama/Clinton appointed judges would allow for any pro Second Amendment court rulings?
 
I know one thing for sure, their advertising is rife with scare tactics.

I was responding to your earlier posting:

yes the NRA thrives on scare tactics to drum up money. they never go on the offensive always the defensive

Particularly the part I emboldened. Apathetic folk love bashing the NRA, but if not for the NRA, who?
 
Trump is proclaiming that the 8 year assault on gun owners is over, while all the firearms manufacturers and dealers in the audience are in tears. The next 4 years will be terrible for sales and a lot of companies will be going out of business. I guess that means the NRA will be scaring us about "President Elizabeth Warren" to get us to buy more guns.

How terribly whiny and cynical!

Sales will be "terrible" compared to what? A ridiculously inflated market driven by the actual actions of Obama, et. al?

Just exactly which companies will be going out of business? Gun shops that jumped on the fatted hog, hoping to milk it? Who else?

You imply that the NRA is driven by gun sales and that's out and out bull manure. The NRA remains effective despite the apathy of people like you.
 
For all the complaining about the NRA's supposed use of hyperbole to "scare" gun-owners into action ... I say, it's pretty freakin' necessary.

By and large, the gun-owners throughout the country (until this past November) have proven to be collectively a most apathetic lot who have enabled the liberal left to enact all the egregious anti-gun legislation during the 20th century and the first 16 years of the 21st century.

Only on the internet are we dedicated, vocal warriors with laser-like focus, fighting the good fight ... Typically (and especially during mid-term years) during election years we vanish.

We here in my state witnessed a heinous example of our complacency with the passage of I-594, which we all fussed over prior to the election, yet continued to assure ourselves it could never happen in this gun-happy state. Until it did. We apparently needed some of those scare tactics to get us off our butts and vote against the measure, considering that in some of our most conservative counties with the highest rates of gun-ownership, only about 13-20 percent of those eligible actually turned in ballots.
 
For all the complaining about the NRA's supposed use of hyperbole to "scare" gun-owners into action ... I say, it's pretty freakin' necessary.

Even more so than actual wins at the federal level on this topic, and that's the really sad part (this goes for both the NRA and Trump). We got a nice speech today, that was (mostly) about guns, but gave no direction for planned or even desired policy goals. For a guy like Trump who makes a point of clearly telegraphing top-level plans for his policy goals ("We're going to do X; I'll make it happen!"), this is quite telling. Bringing up "the wall" was not only completely off-topic for an NRA speech, it was also a far more specific plan for actual policy initiatives than anything offered on the gun front. I've said it before and I'll say it again; gun owners are incredibly cheap dates for DC politicians, wanting nothing more than some occasional kind words for the most part.

So self defense is a "sacred right"; that's nice, and "no duh," and it's refreshing to see a man in the big chair actually say it for once, but how about we do something about the state laws & federal justices who deny that sacred right to millions of Americans, daily? It's not like this is an issue where he has no power or requires a ton of cooperation from the uncooperative. There are a handful of things he could do in a day, legally unassailable uses of his executive discretion, to make life better for lots of us. There are even more things he is easily aware of (uh, HPA for instance? The bill none other than his freaking kid has been promoting for months?) that he could lend his open support to in order to shift them up on Congress' docket.

Yeah, the HPA isn't as big ticket an item or as important as Health Care Reform...but that's precisely why something might actually get accomplished if they'd only spend a week or two getting it to the floor. Put it this way; what portion of the (R) electorate would be upset if congress 'wasted' that much time getting a silly pro-gun bill passed, as opposed to bickering for three weeks about taxes or healthcare without accomplishing anything substantive?

No longer will federal agencies be coming after law-abiding gun owners
Uh, they never were; that's why they had to pass laws & invent regulations that seek to make us law-breaking gun owners, so they can do what they want to us "righteously." Funny, I could have sworn the NFA and GCA and ATF and all the other three-letter-infringements were still laced into a boot pressed firmly on our faces...I must have missed that "crashing end" somehow.

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