Question about Mannlicher stocks

FYI -

The German word "Stützen" (spelled with an 'umlaut' over the 'U') would be correctly spelled "Stuetzen" in English. The letter 'E' after the 'U' represents the German spelling using the 'umlaut'. The word translates as "support" or "prop".

No matter how well they shoot, or work as an Alpine walking aid, I have always felt a Mannlicher stock looks pretty cool on a rifle.

Lipsey's just got Ruger to turn out a limited edition run of 250 Model 77 Hawkeye RSIs in stainless steel and wood in 7X57mm Mauser caliber with the barrel marked 275 Rigby. I have one coming tomorrow. I have two boxes of Hornady Custom 7mm Mauser ammo head stamped 275 Rigby. My regular 7X57 ammo stays with my Mauser short rifle.

I'm delighted.

algentry1 said:

Lipsey's just got Ruger to turn out a limited edition run of 250 Model 77 Hawkeye RSIs in stainless steel and wood in 7X57mm Mauser caliber with the barrel marked 275 Rigby. I have one coming tomorrow. I have two boxes of Hornady Custom 7mm Mauser ammo head stamped 275 Rigby. My regular 7X57 ammo stays with my Mauser short rifle.

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Let us all know how that thing shoots, I may have to get one! What a beauty!

RPRNY

And while there is an argument to be made about putting lipstick on a pig and creating a rifle that's about as useful as tits on a boar, it was a fun and interesting project.

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Not to get too far off track from the thread's topic at hand but I believe the correct expression is "...about as useful as tits on a bull".

And to my way of thinking this still doesn't apply to your Handi-Rifle; a fine looking, one of a kind single shot rifle.

I always heard boar hog...

me too

I've always liked the looks of what some American gun writers have called a "wood-to-muzzle stock". I suppose to avoid having to spell German words. I also wanted a good quality rimfire bolt rifle since the original Kimber rifles came out. About 8-9 years ago I stumbled onto the Rimfire Central forum and learned that CZ rimfire rifles had a loyal following. Here I go to the CZ-USA website to see what they had. When I saw the 452FS (full stock) rifle I thought, "stop right there". Found a .22 LR FS in a LGS and it is a great looking, great shooting rifle. If I had the extra money I would pick up a full stocked centerfire CZ rifle or two.

Crunchy Frog said:

I've always liked the looks of what some American gun writers have called a "wood-to-muzzle stock". I suppose to avoid having to spell German words. I also wanted a good quality rimfire bolt rifle since the original Kimber rifles came out. About 8-9 years ago I stumbled onto the Rimfire Central forum and learned that CZ rimfire rifles had a loyal following. Here I go to the CZ-USA website to see what they had. When I saw the 452FS (full stock) rifle I thought, "stop right there". Found a .22 LR FS in a LGS and it is a great looking, great shooting rifle. If I had the extra money I would pick up a full stocked centerfire CZ rifle or two.

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I'm thankful to have three centerfire CZ FS guns and can tell you that you would probably like them a lot if you like your 452 FS. The 527 FS feels like a grown-up 452 (I'm not disparaging the 452 at all), and the 550s with the big Mauser action feel like a hoss of a gun. The 4-rifle photo is from a few years ago; I've since refinished the wood on all 4 guns (because I enjoy it, and like seeing what's underneath the factory finish).

Man! What beautiful rifles! I was always kind of put off by the European style cheek piece, but I see in your photos, that in person, they actually add to the overall stunning look. I've been wanting one, so I guess I'll go ahead and look for one. That .308 of yours is a real heart stopping beauty. Thanks for posting these pictures.
I like the Ruger Internationals when you shoot a 243 at an Indoor range. They have a muzzle flash and a roar like 105 howitzer. My normal passion is for flintlock long rifles, so I'm more appreciative of tradition and character in my woods guns, and I don't expect tack driving accuracy form something not likely to produce it. But, that said, I've never shot a full stocked rifle that didn't shoot where I pointed it, within my expectations. If you shoot in an offhand flintlock match, they will expect you to use a flintlock. If you're gonna snipe at long range, bring a custom built Sako bull barreled .338 Lapua. If I'm gonna crouch in the cross timbers in central Oklahoma for 10 hours, I'll bring something nice to look at that also works very well in that context. Like a full stocked .275 Rigby carbine.

Al in the Cross Timbers
They got thorns here that'll rip my Carhartts

If we're playing Show & Tell here's the real thing: a M1903 Mannlicher Schoenauer carbine in classic 6.5X54 MS caliber. Scope is lyman Alaskian in Griffin & Howe detachable mount. Peep sight is Lyman "swinging gate" sight. This rifle has traveled to, and taken game in some exotic places. [ATT

Offfhand

That's a classic to be sure! A fine example of old world craftsmanship (along with some additions from Lyman and Griffin and Howe), in a full stocked bolt action carbine.

Mr. ColtPythonElite, I spotted the vintage Weaver K10 (orK8) on your rifle. Nice! These are classic scopes that keep going up in value. Hang on to it.

Offfhand said:

Mr. ColtPythonElite, I spotted the vintage Weaver K10 (orK8) on your rifle. Nice! These are classic scopes that keep going up in value. Hang on to it.

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K10.... I have several of them in use. I like them.

Offfhand,
Thanks for posting the pictures of that beautiful, Classic rifle.
I just wanted to keep hitting the "Like" ...

I had to hit "like" on that one also. Would have hit "love" if I had that option. That's a real classic and one of my "holy grail" guns. Probably never get one though, as the prices on them have justifiably risen over the last couple decades. Not knocking the prices on them because proven classics command good money which is just further proof of their status. To return to the original topic here I can't see any real world advantage to them vs. a conventional stock unless you rate them as having a very high "coolness factor". Plus; I'm still wondering about them having Bavarian origins, (Bavarian Alps, maybe?).

22250Rem said:

To return to the original topic here I can't see any real world advantage to them vs. a conventional stock unless you rate them as having a very high "coolness factor".

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The CZ versions feel and handle quite different in hand compared to a conventional stock, and I think that's what most owners comment on as their primary attraction. They are very different from a traditional stock, and noticeably different even from a Lux style stock (photo attached) which has the same hog back, but a different forend.

I6turbo said:

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The CZ versions feel and handle quite different in hand compared to a conventional stock, and I think that's what most owners comment on as their primary attraction. They are very different from a traditional stock, and noticeably different even from a Lux style stock (photo attached) which has the same hog back, but a different forend.

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That is a really really beautiful rifle. I sure like seeing a stunning looking rifle. I think I better put a CZ on my rack pretty soon. It would be a welcome addition, especially in an older European caliber. I recommend the book, "African Rifles and Cartridges" by John Taylor, for anybody interested in historically important rifles like Manlicher, Mauser, Rigby, etc.
John Taylor was a Professional Hunter and the book was published in I think 1948. When he got back from the war, all of his guns and equipment had been stolen, so he wrote a book. He had actually hunted Africa eleven and a half to twelve months a year, for 30 years.

My favorite walking stick. 6.5x55 Swedish Mauser. When I got it, the wood was hidden under what can best be described as purple stain and spar varnish. This was over 30 hours of work to get that crap off. Well worth it!