New Ruger Pistol Caliber Carbine?

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There are a gazillion ARs that take Glock mags.

The KG9 Defender takes Glock magazines, has a picatiny rail, plus an M-LOK handgaurd and sells for about 20 bucks less than the pre-order price of the Ruger.

I don't like the AR platform personally, but I'm wondering what the big draw is for this Ruger carbine for others, it can't just be that it takes Glock magazines.
 
C0untZer0 said:
There are a gazillion ARs chambred in 9mm, including a bunch of AR pistols.

Do you think the advantages of this Ruger are the recoil mitigation and the take down?
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That and it's not an AR IMO. Cost is certainly a factor.

EDIT: And an echo to what Craig said about it being a more traditional design. I have an AR, but the 9mm versions are dedicated platforms, so why not get a different platform anyway.
 
Browning said:
Glock owners have been screaming at Glock to make a carbine for the better part of a decade.

Guess that it was Ruger that listened. Good on Ruger for that.

I like Rugers rifles a whole lot better than most of their pistols anyway.
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What if... ...Glock plans to announce a carbine at Shot Show, and Ruger scooped them?
 
Baldman said:
I saw this link earlier this morning and read some info on it. Looks like a built up 10/22 takedown and you can get mag wells for a variety of mags not just Ruger. The link now gives a 404 error. Does anyone know if this thing is real or just vaporware? Most AR style pistol calibers are a little on the expensive side, I'd like to see Ruger make this and sell it at a reasonable price.

Any thoughts?

http://www.recoilweb.com/ruger-pistol-caliber-carbine-132333.html
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On my computer it's a 404 link.
 
C0untZer0 said:
There are a gazillion ARs that take Glock mags.

The KG9 Defender takes Glock magazines, has a picatiny rail, plus an M-LOK handgaurd and sells for about 20 bucks less than the pre-order price of the Ruger.

I don't like the AR platform personally, but I'm wondering what the big draw is for this Ruger carbine for others, it can't just be that it takes Glock magazines.
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I think that part of it is that it isn't an AR.

Personally I love AR's, but at the same time I'm kind of sick of them. Part of the draw is that it's like a 10/22, plus it uses Glock mags, plus it'll be chambered in popular pistol cartridges (I would like a 10mm though), it's a take down, you can attach a light to it and a red dot (or a scope if you're so inclined).

So it wins on a couple different levels.

I like AR's, but not everything that comes out needs to be an AR.

John_R said:
What if... ...Glock plans to announce a carbine at Shot Show, and Ruger scooped them?
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That'd be both cool and kind of funny.

Funny in that Ruger would be sticking it to Glock, but in the end it would mean more for the consumer. At least one of them would be a hit.
 
C0untZer0 said:
Do you think the advantages of this Ruger are the recoil mitigation and the take down?
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No for the recoil mitigation and yes for the take down. I do not expect PC Carbine being able to touch CMMG Guard (announced in 9mm less than a month ago) and possibly not even Zenith's MP5 clones in the lightness of recoil department. The take-down is a killer feature though. Only Kel-Tec and JRC offer something similar (folder in Kel-Tec case, take-down for JRC).
 
C0untZer0 said:
There are a gazillion ARs chambred in 9mm, including a bunch of AR pistols.

Do you think the advantages of this Ruger are the recoil mitigation and the take down?
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I think the advantage to many is that the Ruger PCC isn't an AR.

I like ARs (and own one), but I have grown weary of the AR being mentioned as the answer to all semi-auto rifle questions.
 
Mike .45 said:
Its really interesting. If real world price is sub $500 I would be tempted to pick one up to match up with my daughter's SR9.
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Hey, hey, hey. That's a neat idea. My daughter wants a S&W M&P 9mm ever since she shot The Lady M&P. So I could buy a M&P and make a trade with her as I like the SR9c.

I have several other projects I want to do first so maybe in the meantime either Ruger or a enterprising company will make a mag well for the Beretta 92.


chicharrones said:
I think the advantage to many is that the Ruger PCC isn't an AR.

I like ARs (and own one), but I have grown weary of the AR being mentioned as the answer to all semi-auto rifle questions.
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Ditto.
 
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Sistema1927 said:
With Ruger's stellar reputation for customer service, what keeps you from getting one from the get go? They aren't Remington.
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Ya, Ruger has been around the block a few times making carbines in general and the 9mm carbine specifically. I guess anything can happen - I mean Marlin didn't discover that their Camp Carbine recoil buffers would break until the rifle had been out for some time.

I don't expect something like that to happen with Ruger.

I kick myself for not getting the original Police Carbine... I'd be more afraid that Ruger discontinues these than I'd be afraid that the guns might have a problem.

There is more enthusiasm for these than I have money so I'm guessing these are going to be wrung out fairly well before I can buy one anyway...
 
I want one ... even though I bought a JRC takedown this past year because I had given up on Ruger. Looks to me like Ruger "borrowed" several ideas from JR.
 
I have a just right carbine, and it has is a tack driver at 50 yards and has never had a single hiccup. I wanted a cx4 storm, they are light and awesome little carbines, but the glock mags on the ruger wins for me. I will get one when the hype wears off and I see how the reviews roll out.
 
Just thought of another reason for the Ruger - flexibility. Until this gun was announced, the Cx4 had a monoply on the PC market for the ability to change over controls (although the Cx4 admittedly allows for more options than the PC).
 
I own a Colt 9mm AR and it is a great little carbine, fun to shoot, and accurate. The Ruger does have great appeal to me. First, it is designed around a pistol cartridge, so its action and magazine well are more compact relative to a 9mm AR. The ability to take Glock magazines is huge. Other carbines, such as the Keltec Sub2K, can take Glock mags also, but the Sub2K I owned felt cheap and was not very fun to shoot. Obviously I have not fired this new Ruger, but it looks like it would be more ergonomic and pleasant to shoot. The takedown ability is huge to me also. The main reason I got the Sub2K was because it could be stored in a small space. The Ruger will store in just as small a place I suspect.

Ruger is gonna sell a bunch of these. Everybody that wants an AR has an AR at this point. The timing is right for these to sell well.
 
If Ruger makes a folding stock, fixed-barrel version I'll buy one. The only reason I don't still have a PC9 is the mags.

I can see the benefit for a takedown, but I'd still prefer a side folder that is a bit longer length overall but quicker to put in firing configuration.
 
Wisco said:
If Ruger makes a folding stock, fixed-barrel version I'll buy one. The only reason I don't still have a PC9 is the mags.

I can see the benefit for a takedown, but I'd still prefer a side folder that is a bit longer length overall but quicker to put in firing configuration.
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...Give Butler Creek and/or Choate six months... :D

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