Mini 14 vs. AR15

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Yes it is. I also have an AR and like it but the Mini just fits me better. It has all the accuracy I need for its intended purpose.

But there is one thing I do not like about the Mini. With a 20 round Mag in the gun it digs in your back when carried by the sling. I wish there was a way to make it lay flat like a 30 Carbine.
 
After the advent of moderately priced floater AR:s from dozens if not hundreds of manufacturers in a fiercely competitive marketplace many seem to have forgotten how mediocre the majority of AR:s were as late as mid 90's and many base model AR:s still are today. Even fewer remember the M16 Rifle Accuracy Parameters study that determined through representative sample sized tests that median accuracy at 100yd for a factory new rifle in perfect conditions using M193 ball was 4.05". The 110yd sub-2" groups of one of my better A2 HBARs with a Redfield five-star scope sufficed for quite a bit of back-patting at the range back in the day. Most AR:s and Minis were far worse with little if any discernible difference between the two. Times have changed as have the rifles.
I shot them in the late sixties, MOA was standard for me. But then I qualified expert. It seems after Vietnam they made due with old rifles. But I very willing to host a match and put money on it.
 
I get a big laugh out of the guys that will buy new uppers, put in expensive trigger groups and all the other mods they can do to their ARs and then complain that a Mini will not shoot without a bunch of work done to it. And then they let it be known that their experience is based on a gun they owned 20+ years ago.
I actually find folks in the far ends of both camps amusing.
 
I actually find folks in the far ends of both camps amusing.
I find folks who think of these issues as "camps" or define their identity through a choice of a rifle amusing. It often leads to lack of objectivity and missing the big picture completely.
 
I guess all these years of AR's winning at 3 gun, Camp Perry, and any kind of tactical rifle competition out there every one is wrong. They should have been shooting Mini's. LOL. What nonsense and BS.
 
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I find folks who think of these issues as "camps" or define their identity through a choice of a rifle amusing. It often leads to lack of objectivity and missing the big picture completely.

That is funny. You are the one making up BS about Mini accuracy. Maybe you just get junk in Finland. AR's have always been accurate unless it is some off brand knock off. In the 60's I qualified expert with a rack grade AR and issue sights and issue ammo twice. Competition proves it. Ever see an F-Class mini, me neither. Top 3 gun guy with a Mini, nope.The Mini handles nice and I like the looks, but is it equivalent to the AR in accuracy, said no competition shooter ever. LOL. Like I said, My stock AR, your stock Mini, lets shoot and settle it.
Now I have seen guys shoot both about the same. It is always the shooter or very poor set up. Nothing against the Mini, I like them but get real.
 
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Rarely if ever has the history of debate seen so many formal syllogistic and informal argumentation fallacies in a pair of brief posts. Likes given as a form of a participation trophy. This can only go less High Road if the next suggestion for a challenge is to visit a bathroom with a tape measure. So the conversation is over.
 
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