Rocks vs. guns...

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http://abcnews.go.com/US/students-armed-stones-ditch-plan-ward-off-school/story?id=53961564

Pennsylvania school district supplies each class room with a bucket of rocks as a last ditch defense against a school shooter :what: The District Superintendent says "If someone can provide a better last-ditch response to an armed intruder that's trying to gain access to a classroom, then I would be open to any idea." o_O

Ummm, arm teachers?

Does this make rocks assault weapons?
Do the buckets hold more than ten rocks?
 
I agree with you

After having my classroom shot up, I made a comment that we needed to look into getting rid of the gun free zones on colleg campuses. You would of thought that I was the shooter.

Reading that, what’s so sick, is what happens when some of those high school students get out of hand and decide to use the rocks as weapons against each other or the teachers and staff?

It’s almost as stupid as a former peer of mine who told her students to start throwing things especially backpacks at someone coming into her classroom. She didn’t care that this would only cause turmoil and confusion and make things worse.
 
rocks are legal now. Most people have never been hit by a rock, but I can promise, a 12 year old throwing a 2LB rock will hurt. In the face it will knock you out of focus. Twenty doing it will possibly kill you. If those kids were 15, and 20 threw those rocks, after about a minute you would be dead. This was the first projectile weapon in human history. Consider, a 2LB rock thrown by a teenager in the face has a much better one shot stop than a 9mm. When the alternative is literally do nothing, anything is better. Every teacher should at least have a stun gun.
 
rocks are legal now. Most people have never been hit by a rock, but I can promise, a 12 year old throwing a 2LB rock will hurt. In the face it will knock you out of focus. Twenty doing it will possibly kill you. If those kids were 15, and 20 threw those rocks, after about a minute you would be dead. This was the first projectile weapon in human history. Consider, a 2LB rock thrown by a teenager in the face has a much better one shot stop than a 9mm. When the alternative is literally do nothing, anything is better. Every teacher should at least have a stun gun.
 
While I do shake my head at the the thought that it's the best they can come up with... lets keep it in context.


Anything and everything should be used in a last ditch effort.

A bucket of rocks is better than wadded up paper. Right?



And before anyone tries to jump all over me, I've been pretty vocal about letting teachers and staff be able to excercise their 2A Rights if they choose and be able to CC.
 
I guess it depends on if there are a lot of stoners in the school...

...seriously, at classroom range, very effective. I guess we're going to see who gets stoned to death first, a shooter, a teacher, or a student...
 
The rocks won't last long. Someone will toss a rock, break some glass, maybe hurt someone, and then, the rocks will be removed because they are too dangerous to be in a class room.

Gee I remember someone:feet: throwing someone else's books out the window in jr high school. Now, if the window is closed, throw a rock 1st.

Maybe the kiddies can do rock throwing practice outside of class time yet while still on school property. Then perhaps sticks,and after several 1000 years evolve to what happened back in the 60s (approximate) which was, participate is school sanctioned shooting class after school. Some place in between there say, year 500, they will 'discover' the stringed stick launcher launching a feather flighted very straight stick w/ sharpened tip...

They believe and preach evolution anyways, and some of the kids are allowed to act worse then raw blanket natives. YDMV (your district may vary LoL)
 
While doing something is better than nothing, is that really the standard we want to use? How about the best available options such as armed guards in schools and doing away with gun free zones as opposed to "let's at least do something". I have two sons, and if our superintendent made this suggestion I'd be calling for his resignation as a bucket of rocks to protect my kids doesn't come close to being sufficient.
 
Take the rocks out of the heads of the school board and administrators and fill classroom bucket of defense, brilliant why did it take so long to come up with this?
 
When I was in grade school we had practice drills for nuclear weapon attacks. We had to crouch under our desks. At 7 or 8 years old I thought it was pointless. Looking back I think it was a largely successful attempt to mold the minds of children. The superintendent may be a useful idiot but the bucket of rocks is the same BS.
 
A large part of Common Core is supposed to be about conceptual understanding and problem solving.

If it's being taught... the kids will realize that rocks are not an adequate defense.
 
It's better than nothing, and a step in the right direction. At least they are thinking of ways to arm teachers and kids. There was a lot of talk about allowing teachers to be armed after the Florida shooting. But in recent weeks there have been 2-3 high profile incidents where teachers and one Police officer had AD's at school. As long as that sort of thing is in the headlines you won't see armed teachers on a large scale.

I taught Industrial Arts from 1980-2010. My plan was to pass out all of the hammers, extra circular saw blades, files, or any other tools available. Plus I always had about a dozen 2X4's cut to 3'-4' sections in the "scrap" lumber rack that the kids never understood why I'd not let them use.

With 20-25 high school boys so armed my hope is that a shooter would be discouraged enough to try the band room down the hall instead.
 
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