High success rate hunts.?

entropy said:

What rate of twist? If it is 1:66 or more, round ball is the best option. Conicals work best with 1:48 or less.

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Um...that's a general rule, and it pertains to Getz and Colerain and Rice barrels, but for factory reproduction rifles...it might not.

The reason that I say this is that Pedersoli 1853 "3-Band" Enfiled is a 1:72 twist and it's famous for shooting conicals, as well as the Pedersoli 1871 Springfield, which is also a 1:72 twist....then there is the Pedersoli Zouave that is a 1:60 and also a good conical rifle, ...then add the Pedersoli flitlock Jaeger with a 1:24 twist is a good round-ball rifle.

So it has to do with how the rifling is cut, in addition to the rate of twist, when one is talking round-ball or conicals (and there are flat based vs. skirted), as well as powder charges of 120 grains or less.



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Armored farmer said:

If you were to plan a high success rate hunt, what would it be?

Hogs in Tx? Antelope in Wyo? Ducks in Ark? Doves on the border? Pheasants in SD? .....?

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IF, I want to be sure of seeing plenty of game and getting something for my freezer, then it would be a whitetail hunt out back, plenty of deer around here and they look pretty good in my freezer... lol

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Loyalist Dave said:

So it has to do with how the rifling is cut, in addition to the rate of twist, when one is talking round-ball or conicals (and there are flat based vs. skirted), as well as powder charges of 120 grains or less.

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Well, that's why I like THR; I learn. Thanks! I didn't know that. I'd imagine charge weight and granulation might affect performance, also.

MInnesota or Canada, then.

Armored farmer said:

I've been thinking about black bear/walleye combo too

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Mmmm, walleye. Yum!

The flies and mosquitoes would rule out sitting on a bear bait for me in the Spring. Plus, bears don't have horns.

For a little variety there's always Rats at the local land fill.

In recent years I'm starting to believe that whitetails in Iowa may be as plentiful as rats. A lot of depredation tags need filled to thin them out.

For sheer shooting enjoyment prairie dogs in the Dakotas or Wyoming are a good time, then piggyback it with an Antelope and Mulie hunt. I know prairie dog hunters that take multiple rifles so one can cool down while shooting the other.

I’d think that a pheasant hunt in South Dakota would be hard to beat. The things I’ve seen on Youtube are almost beyond belief. Sooo many birds.
Lots of shooting, delicious game, take your dog if you want, etc.

DeadFlies said:

I’d think that a pheasant hunt in South Dakota would be hard to beat. The things I’ve seen on Youtube are almost beyond belief. Sooo many birds.
Lots of shooting, delicious game, take your dog if you want, etc.

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Depends on the weather. Bad winters and cold wet springs can ruin the following bird season. Antelope populations can be hurt by a brutal winter too.

Rembrandt said:

For a little variety there's always Rats at the local land fill.

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Brings back good memories of up at the cabin. I hear they are good with rice and nuoc mam.

Squirrel seems a rather odd but very interesting proposition. It’s not the most thrilling thing to hunt, but there is certainly variety, and should be self-guided in all 50 states with reasonable short term licenses. The key to making it fun is to try to do a squirrelly grand slam. There are several species, and in the species are various traits, the most obvious being color. Look at your standard eastern gray squirrel for example. There is of course gray, but up north they are black, there are pockets of white (not albino either), reddish brown, and probably other colors as well. Then there are the other species. The hardest thing about this would be finding public land to hunt on, and figuring out where the food sources are by reading treebark.

We have a local Game Farm where you can buy a 50 bird pheasant package for around $900. It is a large place with several 80 acre parcels and many 40-60 acre parcels, with cover that rivals anything you can find in SD. My two sons and I, along with our two bird dogs can spend half a day on most of those parcels hunting the dozen or more birds we release. That means with 50 birds we have a least 4 good hunts.The dogs don't know the birds are released, and other than knowing the birds are there, it is no different than hunting SD. I have been to SD many times, but have found that in the long run, this hunt is much cheaper, just as challenging, and just as rewarding as going to SD, and at the end of the day, I'm sleeping in my own bed, after eating my wife's cookin' for supper. As for success, just because the birds are released, they are not guaranteed. Lotta them birds in SD are released birds too, especially if you hunt public land. You still gotta have a good dog to find 'em, know how to cut 'em off or keep 'em from running, and how to hit 'em once they launch themselves skyward. The best days are those where we release 12 and come home with 20.

If you wanna do prairie dog/antelope hunts, we go to the Broadus area of Montana. Plenty of each. If you want contacts, p.m. me.

Armored farmer said:

Just to clarify....
I am not inquiring about hunts that are easy or unsportsmanlike, just want ideas for hunting where ga me is abundant.
I've been thinking about black bear/walleye combo too

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I have friends going down to Argentina in a week or two. I'll ask them how it went. This is coming onto their fall season now. These guys are also going back in October, their Spring. Besides dove, there are pigeons, perdiz in season and some outfitters do "casts and blasts" where fishing for huge Dorado is part of the deal. Cheaper and easier to rent their guns down there than hassle bringing your own

redneck2 said:

If you wanna do prairie dog/antelope hunts, we go to the Broadus area of Montana. Plenty of each. If you want contacts, p.m. me.

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About 30 years ago I killed a nice 6x7 mule deer a few miles south of there just 3 miles south of the border with Wyoming. Lots of game in that area.

George P said:

I have friends going down to Argentina in a week or two. I'll ask them how it went. This is coming onto their fall season now. These guys are also going back in October, their Spring. Besides dove, there are pigeons, perdiz in season and some outfitters do "casts and blasts" where fishing for huge Dorado is part of the deal. Cheaper and easier to rent their guns down there than hassle bringing your own

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I've also heard Argentina has a number of exotics including blackbuck, Asian water buffalo, and red stags.

How do you define success?

Some of my most pleasant hunting trips were not ones with extremely high kill rates.

If body count is the priority, I’ll 2nd the Argentina dove hunts.

Armored farmer said:

Oh absolutely, i agree.
The most abundant game around here is raccoons. They're everywhere. Im just not into it anymore, btdt. But it is the good old days for the coon hunters.

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I wish there were more coon hunters around here. There's way too many of them destroying everything.

.22 PCP air rifle works well on them...

Patocazador said:

I wish there were more coon hunters around here. There's way too many of them destroying everything.

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Coon hunting used to be a profitable hobby. Now it is an expensive one.

Speed goats on public land! Just get them skinned, quartered, and on ice fast and the meat will be awesome.