California gun haters are going to have a field day

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Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation1:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I think this fits what is going on.
 
GAF said:
Niemöller is perhaps best remembered for the quotation1:

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.

Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out— because I was not a trade unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.

I think this fits what is going on.
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Many of us "speak out" and many of us vote as well.
Sometimes that isn't enough to win ...

I have a buddy of mine who lives out there and he recently mentioned the changes and how that will effect, and has already affected, his shooting habits. He ain't happy but he's pretty much stuck with it.
 
In reference to dealers having to log ammo sales:
Texas10mm said:
Only handgun ammo.
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Define "handgun ammo". Ah there's the rub. California AB962 (2009) was supposed to apply to handgun ammo, but coming up with a legal definition proved impossible. SO the good people of CA [/tongue in cheek] passed Prop 63 which basically changed "handgun ammo" to "all ammo". All ammo must be recorded and a background check run. Exemptions for sharing ammo with family, and with friends at a range, and on buying ammo to consume at ranges.

Not the best place to reference but it was the first one I found:

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/ammunition-regulation-in-california/
 
alfsauve said:
In reference to dealers having to log ammo sales:


Define "handgun ammo". Ah there's the rub. California AB962 (2009) was supposed to apply to handgun ammo, but coming up with a legal definition proved impossible. SO the good people of CA [/tongue in cheek] passed Prop 63 which basically changed "handgun ammo" to "all ammo". All ammo must be recorded and a background check run. Exemptions for sharing ammo with family, and with friends at a range, and on buying ammo to consume at ranges.

Not the best place to reference but it was the first one I found:

https://lawcenter.giffords.org/ammunition-regulation-in-california/
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Does this also effect reloading and the necessary components.?
 
Lyle Wyatt said:
Got out in 2013, moved to Idaho. It was a good decision.
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This is one more example of "The Big Sort," in which Americans are clustering with like-minded neighbors.

https://www.economist.com/united-states/2008/06/19/the-big-sort

In fact, this explains why California is so liberal (and antigun). Conservative people (and pro-gun people) won't go to live there, given a choice, and those who are already there will leave.

This also explains why there are no conservatives -- and few pro-gun people -- remaining in the Democratic party.

If this polarization keeps up, we are headed to civil war, or at least to a breakup of the country.
 
cheygriz said:
Some folks are just plain stupid. some are ignorant. Some are easily led by others. A larger and larger segment is only interested in what they can get without working for it.

They walk among us. And they vote!:(
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And they are also the ones going around saying "guns are BAAAAAAd". :evil:
 
JTHunter said:
There are probably enough old car/truck batteries out there that are NOT being "recycled" to make a fair number of moldable bullets.
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Car batteries are a very poor choice when it comes to finding lead. With new batteries you're more likely to harm yourself than anything else.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?138362-Why-Car-Batteries-Are-Dangerous

Nor are wheel weights a viable option in California since lead wheel weights have been banned for over a decade.
 
Texas10mm said:
Car batteries are a very poor choice when it comes to finding lead. With new batteries you're more likely to harm yourself than anything else.

http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?138362-Why-Car-Batteries-Are-Dangerous

Nor are wheel weights a viable option in California since lead wheel weights have been banned for over a decade.
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Thanks for the correction. I had heard that about the wheel weights some time back and they are trying the same thing around here, all because of the lead.
 
Old Dog said:
To me, the most truly pathetic thing is that Californians readily voted in the super-majority that renders their state the king of the nanny states, but must live with a government that cannot keep them safe from their state's rampant crime, fix the most egregious traffic problems in the country, lower the nation's highest home-owning and rental costs nor will ever consider lowering the heinous rate of taxation upon its citizens.
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Don't mistake a lack of concern for a lack of ability.

The Kate Steinle case conclusively proved that the people who run California simply don't CARE.
 
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