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I'm thinking of adding a muzzle brake on a 6.5 CM rifle. Watched some th YouTube videos but nothing conclusive in my search. A search on THR brings up a thread on linear comps but I'm not really interested in those I dont think.

What I'm looking for is recoil reduction. A brake is a brake to a degree I suppose but I dont want keep buying breaks until I find the right one. Midway has an Ultradine for 6.5 that looks good. Lots of side vents too but are they necessary? DPMS has a Miculick (spelling?) , Thats way cheaper, that a friend has on a AR that he swears by.

Any suggestions on where to look and what to look for are appreciated.
 
The barrel is threaded.

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The gun will mostly be fired from a bench. Maybe prone on occasion.
 
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A brake is a brake

Not at all.

brakes on gun in about the powder capacity and down from the 7 rem mag, are not as efficient.

Not a thing. A guy might not notice the difference as much when a round isn't near or above their recoil tolerance, but brakes remain to make a big difference in recoil velocity of the rifle even down to the lowly 22LR. Brakes bring a lot more to the table than just mitigating shooter pain.

I have a DPMS Miculek brake, it's cheap, and it does reduce recoil, but it's really not a very efficient brake, better than bare muzzle, but not really a great brake. Brownells accidentally threw it in the box with one of my orders several years ago, so I stick on rifles here and there until I get a better brake, or use it as a thread protector for a rifle I usually shoot suppressed. The oblong port, straight through milled, gill type are pretty basic, PRI Quiet control are almost identical to the DPMS Miculek, and I use a lot of those, largely for the looks and low cost. Linear Compensators like the Kaw Valley Precision will reduce recoil, but not as much as a ported brake. The nice part about Linear Compensators is the fact they reduce recoil AND reduce blast volume to those on the firing line beside the shooter. The Ultradyne models will reduce recoil more than the straight through type. I really like the American Precision Arms (APA) Lil' Bastard and Fat Bastard, the Area419 Hellfire, and the Piercision 5 port Muscle Brake. I have a bunch of SilencerCo ASR brakes on rifles as well, which do surprisingly well for a straight through milled type. I also use Holland Radial Port brakes and Vias heli-port type brakes. The heliport types aren't as good for prone as a gill type, as they kick up a lot more dust than the side port types.

One big advantage of the Seekins Nest, APA Bastards, Area419 Hellfire, and Piercision Muscle Brake is the "self timing" feature. For most gill type brakes, the brake has to be machined to "time" correctly to the barrel. Meaning the brake has to be trimmed or shimmed to make it level with the rifle action. Heliport brakes and Linear Compensators are symmetrical, so there's no wrong way to orient them, but the gill type have to be timed to the barrel. These self timing models have jam nuts to let the shooter time the brake without a lathe or shims.

For my rifles, APA, Area419, or Piercision.
 
I have a vg6 gammas on my 7mag and 6.5CM. I hav not shot the 6.5, but the 7mm is easier to shoot well with the brake on. I also have a couple linear comps, and while I don't notice a recoil reduction, my buddy's noticed, and commented on the reduced blast.
 
I have several rifles with muzzle brakes, including 2 Creedmoors. They do make a difference if you’re shooting a lot, especially from a bench. My favorite is the Jet Blast by Patriot Valley Arms. It’s self timing and I recommend it highly.
 
I've got a couple rifles with brakes, both accomplish recoil reduction, but for different purposes.

LR rig (Area 419), it allows me to spot for myself.
3GUN rig, ( Griffin Armament) combined with a low-mass BCG, adjustable gas block and LW Buffer/spring, it allows me to shoot faster.
 
I'd try a couple of other peoples, and see if they are for you. Is it a gas operated system?
 
Precision Ams in Ga. Micro Bastard self timing. Easy on and off. Put a Fat Bastard on a 300 win mag last year and was like shooting a 243. Never tried one on the 6.5 but they are nice. Just google the brake name and it will take you to their site.
 
I'd try a couple of other peoples, and see if they are for you. Is it a gas operated system?

I tried a ruger PRS in 6.5 at the range today with the factory brake. Yep. I'm getting one. Felt like shooting a 223.
 
I'm thinking of adding a muzzle brake on a 6.5 CM rifle. Watched some th YouTube videos but nothing conclusive in my search. A search on THR brings up a thread on linear comps but I'm not really interested in those I dont think.

What I'm looking for is recoil reduction. A brake is a brake to a degree I suppose but I dont want keep buying breaks until I find the right one. Midway has an Ultradine for 6.5 that looks good. Lots of side vents too but are they necessary? DPMS has a Miculick (spelling?) , Thats way cheaper, that a friend has on a AR that he swears by.

Any suggestions on where to look and what to look for are appreciated.
thier line up looks cool i like the reverse side ports
 
If you don’t mind a bit of reading: https://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/08/07/muzzle-brakes-sound-test/


If you prefer just the metrics and cutting to the chase:
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I concluded that the Seekins was, for my purposes, a good compromise of performance to noise to dollars spent. Mounted on a Ruger Predator 6.5CM it mitigates enough recoil and muzzle jump to stay on target at the range. My goal is to ready my daughters for shooting larger caliber rifles for longer range medium-size game.
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If you are looking for recoil reduction I would take a good look at the Precision Armament M4-72. Not too expensive, not too heavy, not too large, class leading recoil reduction. Yes you do need to buy their accu-washer kit. She's a blast if you are standing in the zone, but works exceptionally well.

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https://precisionarmament.com/product/m4-72-tactical-compensator/

https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2016/02/jeremy-s/308-muzzle-brake-test/

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Yes it is for .308 and not .264 but the difference in caliber size equates to only a 1-3% drop in effectiveness so right up at the top of its class even with the different caliber.

https://info.americanprecisionarms.com/blog/will-a-.308-muzzle-brake-work-on-a-6.5-creedmoor

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https://precisionrifleblog.com/2015/07/07/muzzle-brakes-recoil-results-for-6mm-6-5mm/
 
I like the VG6 Muzzle brakes. You do have to shim them or use a crush washer. Schuyler Arms or Granite Ridge usually have them on sale for $45.
There is a guy on the Accurate Shooter forum, rem40xb1 ( Ross ) rossbrakes.com, that makes semi custom brakes for $35. I've never tried one but he has rave reviews on the forum.
 
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I use them for 3 gun and a few heavy recoiling rifles, they make too much noise though, prefer a suppressor.

The Front Sight had an article a few years ago where they tested a bunch of them on the same rifle, that also had a laser on it, so you could see the effect each had on the rifles movement from POA.
 
For 6.5 Creedmoor I will say the APA Little Bastard is the best I've found for recoil and muzzle management. From an overall standpoint, the Area 419 Hellfire is very, very close and offers easier timing and cleaning.

I've moved 100% to the Hellfire brake system from Area 419.
 
As noted above, there are many brakes that are very effective. I have a Miculek break on my AR and it recoils just slightly more than my .22 but it sounds like a .308. If noise level is a consideration, I've read that the Precision Armament EFAB Hybrids are a good compromise between recoil mitigation, flash suppression, and noise level.
 
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X2 have this on my RPR great brake...:thumbup::thumbup:
 
JRB did a bunch of testing with brakes/compensators in regards to barrel harmonics and accuracy. Some of them performed terribly and increased group size. So, that's another factor to take in to consideration. I suppose you could spend some time with any brake and develop a load that performed well for it. But if you are shooting factory ammo you may not get the results you are looking for.
 
Today I shot another 2 more braked rifles. One of which was mine.

I was talking about brakes to a very knowledgable shooter who happened to have a lil bastard on his gun. He offered to let me try his brake on my rifle. A no brainer for me.

Within about a minute we had his brake on my rifle. I really like the self timing locking nut. Noise behind the gun was nothing to write home about but I was able to watch the bullet impact through my scope. Winner winner chicken dinner!

Later I tried the same brake on his precision rifle. The rifle seemingly never moved under recoil. I'm a convert.

I was starting to lean toward the lil bastard based on the responses in this thread but now I'm sure this is the one for me. I'm totally sold on the self timing fearure.
 
Snappy. I’ve owned four of them. Two micro bastards and two FatBastards. The noise on my 300 win mag was deafening. I put a micro Bastard on a 300 WSM I had threaded and noicenot as bad but no one wanted close to meat the range. They have a new smaller brake and I may be spelling it wrong but I think C.O.P.D. My wife went and picked my last one up and had to wait for them to parkerize it. I was sold with screwing it on and using a crescent wrench to lock it down. No shims if I took it off to hunt. Guy next to me said be a man or buy a can. I was blowing his targets off his bench five ft away with the 300 win mag and the Fat Bastard. I kept shooting. He moved a few benches down. I felt bad and left but I shoot at my own personal range now.
 
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