NIGHTLORD40K
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Wow!
I only have 2 left. Prefer the second gen over the 3rd as they use metal backstraps instead of relying on the delrin grip module to retain the mainspring strut.
Any love for S&W Autos?
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I only have 2 left. Prefer the second gen over the 3rd as they use metal backstraps instead of relying on the delrin grip module to retain the mainspring strut.
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I hate it when you show up. My wife always asks, "Why is your skin so green? Maybe you should make an appointment with a dermatologist..."
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I had an SD9VE for a couple of years. Kind of a short notice buy, needed a rugged service handgun almost overnight, and didn't want to get something "too nice," as there was a good chance it might end up welded together or buried in a hole in the ground in my line of work.
It was rock solid reliable with various ammos even when literally dragged through the mud on a daily basis. I put a lot of practice rounds through it, and disassembled and cleaned it nearly to death. Accuracy was fair, the main limiting factor was the trigger pull which I'd describe as somewhere between "SKS" and strangling a weasel to death, but not quite as bad as a Russian Nagant revolver. Maybe I'm being too harsh, was my first DAO automatic after shooting a Browning for many years. When you really concentrated, you could put rounds on target in precision mode.
Was offered a trade for it that I couldn't pass up, so I replaced it with a slightly more expensive FNS9, which I like immensely better. The Smith was a solid gun though, and others may like it better than me based on personal preference.
It was rock solid reliable with various ammos even when literally dragged through the mud on a daily basis. I put a lot of practice rounds through it, and disassembled and cleaned it nearly to death. Accuracy was fair, the main limiting factor was the trigger pull which I'd describe as somewhere between "SKS" and strangling a weasel to death, but not quite as bad as a Russian Nagant revolver. Maybe I'm being too harsh, was my first DAO automatic after shooting a Browning for many years. When you really concentrated, you could put rounds on target in precision mode.
Was offered a trade for it that I couldn't pass up, so I replaced it with a slightly more expensive FNS9, which I like immensely better. The Smith was a solid gun though, and others may like it better than me based on personal preference.
Um, if you think that crap is anything more than a marketing gimmick for some slots, sights, and possible a different trigger, you have a lot to learn.
They custom shop that used to build the likes of a 952 or PPC is no more. It’s just a name S&W slaps on some guns that take a slight detour from the standard production line. All the hand fitted high end guns were discontinued when the custom shop was closed.
FunnyI hate it when you show up. My wife always asks, "Why is your skin so green? Maybe you should make an appointment with a dermatologist..."
Glad you like the guns...
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Sorry to have upset you. But you said it no longer existed. It does. It's your problem if you don't think the same of them now.
If you want to complain about it, start your own thread.
Excuse me?
I’m not complaining at all. I have many PC autos worth a ton more than I paid for them, because they aren’t made any longer. I’m simply trying to educate you a bit, because it seems like you need it. Do you even have any experience with the guns I’m referring to?
It doesn’t exist any longer.
The Performance Center was a full custom shop opened by Paul Liebenberg and a couple others. They built very high end, tightly fitted autos, like the 845, 945, and many others. They are all discontinued and the Performance Center as it was is no longer in operation.
S&W uses the name today for guns with a few different parts added to differentiate them from the standard production run and let’s them charge an extra $100 or so. Totally different ballgame.
The hand fitted guns built in the Performance Center cost a couple grand each back then. Many sell for a lot more than that today, due to supply and demand.
Hope this helps...
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Start your own thread on the Performance Center. Seriously.
MillCreek
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I have a 659, 669 and 3913 that I appreciate. Reliable, sturdy, accurate and the 659 can be used as a club for zombies.
What’s the problem?
I posted S&W PC guns in a S&W auto thread. I didn’t ask you to quote me. Seriously.
At any rate, at least now you have some information. Good day.
The 1006 is a great pistol. Had one years ago. Never was a huge 10mm guy, but I should have kept that one.
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When I was just old enough to have one gun, we were at the range and there was a nice old man with a leather covered hard case full of handguns. He saw us enough he asked what we were up to, let us look at and shoot some of his guns, briefly.
He had a super, super, super nice DAO 69 series. So, fell in love with that, and maybe 10 years later, bought my own DAO smith. Commercial, new, very shiny, special order, not a police over-run or surplus. Customized some Hogue wood stocks to be thinner, and coated them in Defthane, which made them slick looking but grippy in all conditions.
I shot it better than anything else (kept track of splits and scores, then sold my G35 after a while). Now relegated to safe time as it's no light, and parts are hard to get, but still pretty.
When new-ish. Scanned and then COB'd
Above are the original stocks, all others are after thinning down.
Typical after a week of carry, before I traded carry ammo out for a range day. Can see the carry wear coming in on the frame just rear of the trigger pin, for example.
March 2010 EDC setup
This thing was scrupulously reliable. It could get dirty enough it would be visibly shooting slower, but it never just stopped unless you did something wrong. I still strongly prefer those mags with the internal baseplates for carry to the M&P mags. And, annoyed they are sitting there unused, had to buy all new when I switched guns.
Now, it's M&P 9 pro 4.25 with X300U-A. And soon, there will be an RMR on that gun (or a new RMR'd gun), as my eyes go bad more all the time.
(This is a couple years old, I do have a newer phone now. Kydex is home made.)
He had a super, super, super nice DAO 69 series. So, fell in love with that, and maybe 10 years later, bought my own DAO smith. Commercial, new, very shiny, special order, not a police over-run or surplus. Customized some Hogue wood stocks to be thinner, and coated them in Defthane, which made them slick looking but grippy in all conditions.
I shot it better than anything else (kept track of splits and scores, then sold my G35 after a while). Now relegated to safe time as it's no light, and parts are hard to get, but still pretty.
When new-ish. Scanned and then COB'd
Above are the original stocks, all others are after thinning down.
Typical after a week of carry, before I traded carry ammo out for a range day. Can see the carry wear coming in on the frame just rear of the trigger pin, for example.
March 2010 EDC setup
This thing was scrupulously reliable. It could get dirty enough it would be visibly shooting slower, but it never just stopped unless you did something wrong. I still strongly prefer those mags with the internal baseplates for carry to the M&P mags. And, annoyed they are sitting there unused, had to buy all new when I switched guns.
Now, it's M&P 9 pro 4.25 with X300U-A. And soon, there will be an RMR on that gun (or a new RMR'd gun), as my eyes go bad more all the time.
(This is a couple years old, I do have a newer phone now. Kydex is home made.)
Ignition Override
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As the topic title is "..love for S&W Autos?", without a doubt, Two thumbs up.
My German M&P .22 is excellent, It is my only S&W handgun ( & first .22 handgun). It was German-produced and proofed.
Based on the 1,500 or so rds. used in this .22, I would have no second-thoughts about owning one of their US-made semi-auto guns, in a larger chambering.
My German M&P .22 is excellent, It is my only S&W handgun ( & first .22 handgun). It was German-produced and proofed.
Based on the 1,500 or so rds. used in this .22, I would have no second-thoughts about owning one of their US-made semi-auto guns, in a larger chambering.
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JN01
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The 39/59 series is a classic. I've had several, still have a 5903.
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Model 4006
I also have an M&P9 but you might as well take a picture of a Tupperware bowl
I also have an M&P9 but you might as well take a picture of a Tupperware bowl
JWF III
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They are much overlooked by today’s civilian market. But with the shear number of police trade-ins, it is obvious they were well liked by the LE community.
It’s my favorite pistol platform. I have 4 at the moment, and 1 inbound. 5906 TSW, 6906, 4516-1, and a 3913, with a CHP 4006 TSW inbound. Still on my 3rd Gen list are 4506, 1006, and 4013. As for other S&W autos, I’d also like to get a 39 and a 52. Add to those, any others that I may come across for the right price.
The only downside of the platform is the lack of support. Parts and magazines are nearly impossible to find.
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It’s my favorite pistol platform. I have 4 at the moment, and 1 inbound. 5906 TSW, 6906, 4516-1, and a 3913, with a CHP 4006 TSW inbound. Still on my 3rd Gen list are 4506, 1006, and 4013. As for other S&W autos, I’d also like to get a 39 and a 52. Add to those, any others that I may come across for the right price.
The only downside of the platform is the lack of support. Parts and magazines are nearly impossible to find.
Wyman
Yeah you're spot on. Those drop in parts on the PC Shield are very “custom”.
At least S&W doesn’t try ripping people off with the Performance Center name. They’re just a few few bucks more than the standard guns. Even the PC1911 is very reasonable nowadays. The original PC1911 built in the old Performance Center was pretty expensive, but a great pistol.
You’ve convinced me though. I’ll trade in my old PC guns for the new production guns with the drop in parts. I’ll start by selling this 952 Longslide and picking up about ten PC shields with the proceeds.
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Lotsa love here. Some of the most reliable, durable pistols ever to come down the pike ...
My 5906 was a brick, but it was reliable as hell, accurate and I kinda liked its looks (hooked trigger guard, arched backstrap and all) ...
3913/14 great carry pistols. 4506 is awesome.
Never used the safety. Decock, carry Condition 1.
My 5906 was a brick, but it was reliable as hell, accurate and I kinda liked its looks (hooked trigger guard, arched backstrap and all) ...
3913/14 great carry pistols. 4506 is awesome.
Never used the safety. Decock, carry Condition 1.
NIGHTLORD40K
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Well..........the 3G guns were widely used, but IDK that they were well liked by patrol officers due to their great weight and bulk. Female LEOs especially had problems getting their hands around the double stack Smiths. The widespread issue of the 3G Smith was due in large part to lingering skeptisicm over the durability of the Glock and legal concerns over the trigger and lack of an external safety. It didnt hurt that S&W gave deep discounts to the departments- a key trick that played such a role in the current chunk of the market that the M&P holds.
All these are fine pistols, but I sure wouldnt want to lug around a 5906 for a 12 hour shift. That said, I dont own any plastic pistols myself, but hey, if the Department wants to drop their dime on one, Ill carry it.
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