horsemen61
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Ok folks what can you tell me about this rifle
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One wonders how many engineers had the chance to catch that and didn't. . .But shortly before they were released it was discovered that 270 WSM cartridges would chamber and fire in 7mm WSM rifles.
Ok folks what can you tell me about this rifle
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I need info
Factory ammo is hard to find, as is brass. You'll need to handload and probably make your own brass from 270 WSM brass.
In my limited experience with this cartridge, factory ammo might not be available in your local gunshop but it is quite readily available over the internet, if you can order over the internet. I live in the commune called NY and loaded ammo cannot be shipped to my residence. The previous loaded ammo I have was obtained before the infamous SAFE ACT. Brass is another matter. It is almost impossible to obtain. Midway USA just received a shipment. I've heard you cannot just run a 300WSM or a 270WSM through your reloading die and get a satisfactory 7mmWSM hull. Something to do with either the shoulder or the length of the neck, I can't recall. If anyone is hung up on the 7mm bore, probably the best thing to do is get a Remington 7mm mag and be done with it but that's only my opinion.
Thanks, I'm aware that a few places will ship to a licensed dealer for pickup and Campsite in Huntington Station (Long Island) won't even hit you up for a fee (or at least they didn't previously). But I will definitely check out those businesses. thanks Troyif you don't live in the city these ple will ship to ny.
https://www.targetsportsusa.com/
https://www.outdoorlimited.com/
buds gun shop. will ship to.
Winchester intended to release the 270, 7mm, and 300 WSM cartridges and rifles at the same time. But shortly before they were released it was discovered that 270 WSM cartridges would chamber and fire in 7mm WSM rifles. They decided to hold off on introducing the 7mm version until the design was tweaked to prevent this. As a result the 7mm version was introduced about a year later. I like the concept, but the WSM's have always been a niche cartridge that appealed to a limited number of people. By the time Winchester got the 7mm WSM ready to sell most everybody that wanted one already had one. A good argument can be made that the 7mm WSM is the best of the bunch, but it is the least common. Factory ammo is hard to find, as is brass. You'll need to handload and probably make your own brass from 270 WSM brass.
There's another issue: all Winchester 7mm WSMs are from the era where New Haven quality control was poor. They need to be checked for chamber roundness at a minimum. The only way I know of to do this is to remove a piece of fired brass, rotate it 90 degrees, put it in the mag, and try to feed it. If it won't feed, you may have a problem. If you can't fire the rifle or get a piece of fired brass from the owner, I'd pass.
It was an unfortunate situation. Thankfully many of the rifles, even those made at the very end, are 100% functional.Didn't know that. I knew I bought mine right before they wrapped up in New Haven and moved south. Always sorta proud it was marked New Haven?
I got called to task on another forum on the controlled push feed. Had never seen such. One seasoned poster claimed no such ever existed. Another poster proved that it did exist by ads etc. The feature was advertised some years back by Winchester. There is information and comments on the net. Personally, I had no problem with the system. However, it is easy to see how others would not feel comfortable. This rifle had not been used as a push feed much and was stiff. Seems like some of these rifles show up with the new controlled fed outside extractor. One citizen in that thread shared that the rifles would be made up in batches for the Big Boxes to specs. This rifle came with a Burris Full Field 3-9X scope in Burris Z type rings. Originally that rifle may come from a Big Box. That rifle was well finished and functioned very well. I'd get another with no problem. The factory stock was ugly in the extreme! I had more problems with the Winchester bass split necks than anything to do with the rifle. Stay away from once fired Federal brass.I'm not a huge fan of the M70 "push feed" or "controlled push feed" action, which I believe is what all M70 Black Shadows have