Bergara BXR .22 LR Semi Auto

sirgilligan · Apr 26, 2019

https://www.bergara.online/us/rifles/bxr/

I have been studying the new Ruger 10/22 from their custom shop and now Bergara has a rifle.

I friend of mine participates in a monthly 22 LR competition and I told him that this year I would get an entry level rifle and go practice with him, thus my interest.

someguy2800 · Apr 26, 2019

Don’t have anything to say other than it’s a blatant ripoff of Thompson Center’s rip off of the 10-22

troy fairweather · Apr 26, 2019

they look good

<*(((>< · Apr 26, 2019

Can’t beat them, join them! Always disliked that notion, but it does look good, especially the weight. The

rust collector · Apr 26, 2019

Looks nice, but time will tell if it is accurate and reliable.

greyling22 · Apr 26, 2019

someguy2800 said:
Don’t have anything to say other than it’s a blatant ripoff of Thompson Center’s rip off of the 10-22

Why the hate? Nobody bashes Colt or stag for "ripping off" armalites ar15. Nobody bashes Wilson combat for "ripping off" colts 1911. Nobody bashes bergara for ripping off the model 700.

Designed are copies all the time. Intellectual property runs out. Ruger has a great design with the 10/22, but they let it stagnate and now that the patents have expired people are building better ones. Ruger kept raising the price and dropping the build quality. And there is no excuse for never develpping a last round bolt hold open. I for one am thrilled there are better options coming to market. I could have bought this instead of buying a 10/22, tossing the stock and barrel, buying new stock and Kidd barrel fixing the trigger and mag release etc.

someguy2800 · Apr 26, 2019

greyling22 said:
Why the hate? Nobody bashes Colt or stag for "ripping off" armalites ar15. Nobody bashes Wilson combat for "ripping off" colts 1911. Nobody bashes bergara for ripping off the model 700.

Designed are copies all the time. Intellectual property runs out. Ruger has a great design with the 10/22, but they let it stagnate and now that the patents have expired people are building better ones. Ruger kept raising the price and dropping the build quality. And there is no excuse for never develpping a last round bolt hold open. I for one am thrilled there are better options coming to market. I could have bought this instead of buying a 10/22, tossing the stock and barrel, buying new stock and Kidd barrel fixing the trigger and mag release etc.

No hate. Actually planning on get the Thompson Center. All good designs eventually get copied.

redneck2 · Apr 26, 2019

Will be nice assuming it is accurate.

I just don’t get the 10/22 thing. You buy a rifle, throw away 90% of it, then get all excited because it has above mediocre accuracy. And it’s worth the same or less than when you started.

And yes, I’ve owned a 10/22. If you wanna turn money into noise they’re OK.

George Dickel · Apr 26, 2019

Anybody know if the receiver/barrel is threaded, pinned or a copy of the 10/22 system?

MCMXI · Apr 27, 2019

George Dickel said:
Anybody know if the receiver/barrel is threaded, pinned or a copy of the 10/22 system?

The barrel and receiver are threaded to improve accuracy, but the receiver is backwards compatible to non-threaded Ruger slip fit style barrels that are held in place using the V-block clamp. There's also a hole at the rear of the receiver aligned with the bore to allow access for a cleaning rod. The barrels from Bergara are very good so I'd be surprised if many would want to unscrew a good barrel and fit another barrel, but having the backwards compatibility does give the end user more options regardless of whether they use that feature or not.

cdb1 · Apr 27, 2019

rust collector said:
Looks nice, but time will tell if it is accurate and reliable.

Being that it is Bergara I’m willing to bet they are accurate and reliable.

FlSwampRat · Apr 27, 2019

greyling22 said:
Why the hate? Nobody bashes Colt.... for "ripping off" armalites ar15.

Colt bought the rights to the design and name AR-10 and AR-15, didn't rip anything off.

I think it's kinda cool when the patents expire and you see what another company can do with a design. Instead of making a part for part clone of a design, many companies make some pretty interesting improvements and variations on a theme.

d2wing · Apr 28, 2019

Just when I was trying to decide between a CZ 457 and a Tikka T1.

sirgilligan · Apr 28, 2019

d2wing said:
Just when I was trying to decide between a CZ 457 and a Tikka T1.

Word on the street is that Bergara is making Bolt Action 22 LR and will be announced soon. The "street" is the NRA convention.

horsemen61 · Apr 28, 2019

Damn I’d love to see a bolt action22 from Bergara

Speedo66 · Apr 29, 2019

Ruger magazines interchangeable?

cdb1 · Apr 29, 2019

Speedo66 said:
Ruger magazines interchangeable?

Bergara says yes.

Kookla · Apr 30, 2019

Any word on the mrsp? Didn't see anything on the link.

rust collector · Apr 30, 2019

From their website:
BXR Base Model – Part Number BXR001 BXR 22LR Semi-Auto Rifle Crome Molly Cerakoted Barrel MSRP – $565

BXR Carbon – BXR002 BXR 22LR Semi-Auto Rifle Carbon Fiber Barrel MSRP – $659

Kookla · Apr 30, 2019

Didn't see that, thank you.

fpgt72 · Apr 30, 2019

someguy2800 said:
No hate. Actually planning on get the Thompson Center. All top selling designs eventually get copied.

Wonder if you are going to toss the parts bin at it to make it work.

CraigC · Apr 30, 2019

I don't need another 10/22 (I think) but it looks good.

redneck2 said:
Will be nice assuming it is accurate.

I just don’t get the 10/22 thing. You buy a rifle, throw away 90% of it, then get all excited because it has above mediocre accuracy. And it’s worth the same or less than when you started.

And yes, I’ve owned a 10/22. If you wanna turn money into noise they’re OK.

That's not how I'd characterize it, unless you just get a cheap barrel. Expecting a hundred dollar barrel to do much is a bit absurd. The more realistic, glass-half-full version is that you get to buy a used $150 carbine, install a $200 barrel, do some trigger mods and you have a semi-auto that shoots with good bolt actions. That you can do everything you need to with it in a matter of minutes, with common hand tools.

fpgt72 said:
Wonder if you are going to toss the parts bin at it to make it work.

Contrary to your biased, inflammatory and jaded opinion, most 10/22's work right out of the box.

fpgt72 · Apr 30, 2019

CraigC said:
Contrary to your biased, inflammatory and jaded opinion, SOME 10/22's work right out of the box.

Fixed fer ya....ti does put stuff on it most people hang on them to bring it to an acceptable level.

MCMXI · Apr 30, 2019

Barrels will have a .22LR Bentz chamber and will be made in Spain. Bergara makes a very nice button rifled barrel so accuracy will be very good to excellent. The bore is polished prior to buttoning so the finish is really nice.

redneck2 · Apr 30, 2019

CraigC said:
Contrary to your biased, inflammatory and jaded opinion, most 10/22's work right out of the box.

I had one. Went “bang” every time. If that’s an acceptable level of performance then you’re good to go

What astounds me is when someone scraps the barrel, sights, trigger, stock, and sometimes the BCG and still calls it a 10/22. Key bra like taking off a radiator cap, driving a different car unde, and still thinking it’s still the same car

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