No matter how much I try by switching bullets and powder I can get my S&W 642 to shoot reloads! All over the place with be86 and HP38. Bullet is extreme 125gr FP. I ran some through another full size 38spl and same crap groups. Any recommendations?
+1 and in my experience, snubbies are very difficult, if not the most difficult revolver to shoot well. They have short barrels, are very light, and have compact grips. Takes lots of practice to get the hang of them.Turned out I was just not good at shooting revolvers.
S&W M637-2 2" barrel
125 Valiant BBRNFP 4.0 grs Bullseye Mixed cases WSP
9-Apr-06 T = 59 °F
Ave Vel = 760.4
Std Dev = 27.33
ES = 82.1
High = 798.9
Low = 716.8
N = 19
More or less Point of aim ,Surprising recoil
125 Valiant BBRNFP 4.5 grs Bullseye Mixed cases WSP
9-Apr-06 T = 64 °F
Ave Vel = 827.9
Std Dev = 23.21
ES = 92.27
High = 879.4
Low = 787.1
N = 20
Maybe a little low, Windage centered
S&W M638-3 Airweight Bodyguard
148 LWC Valiant 2.7 grs Bullseye thrown Mixed Brass WSP
18-Mar-07 T = 52 °F
Ave Vel = 611.6
Std Dev = 22.04
ES = 75.92
High = 648.1
Low = 572.2
N = 25
little high
158 LSWC 3.5 grs Bullseye Mixed brass WSP
18-Mar-07 T = 52 °F
Ave Vel = 670.7
Std Dev = 17.52
ES = 65.4
High = 697.5
Low = 632.1
N = 12
4-6" High, accurate
158 JHP 3.5 grs Bullseye Mixed brass WSP
18-Mar-07 T = 52 °F
Ave Vel = 611.1
Std Dev = 9.64
ES = 28.05
High = 626.3
Low = 598.3
N = 9
4"-6" High @ 25 yards, accurate
I can shoot k frames with factory ammo better than I do my semi auto. It’s hammerless so can’t shoot single action. I had someone else shoot it last night and it was wild.I had the same problem with my Ruger SBH in 44 mag. Finally I said "screw it" bought a 357 Smith. Wouldnt ya know it but it couldn't shoot worth a nit either. Turned out I was just not good at shooting revolvers. Spent a lot of winter hours in the basement just dry firing at half inch dots on the wall. Now my handloads hold 3 inches or less at 25 yards and I can free hand the 8 inch at fifty, single action anyway.
Have you tried shooting them from a stable rest in single action?
Yes I use a taper crimp.Do you have the version with the cannelure?
Shoots decent for a snub nose. I can put 5 in 6” shoot n c at say 20ft. Can’t even hit it with reloads.How does it shoot with factory Ammo?
I bought 6K of these bullets back during the xtreme clearance sale madness. I also have 6K of their 38-125HP. I got good results with the HP version immediately but it took me forever to get the FP ones shooting right.Yes I use a taper crimp.
Shoots decent for a snub nose. I can put 5 in 6” shoot n c at say 20ft. Can’t even hit it with reloads.
There's no doubt going to lead bullets and wadcutters makes great results easy, for the reasons you've listed. But it is instructive to consider how well most factory 38 jacketed and even plated ammunition works. Usually the best plinking bullet is the one you already have, and when that's an xtreme 38-125FP you've got to maximize ignitability and bullet pull to get good results.I'm with Walkalong, starting with 148gr DEWC from Berry, MBC, or ACME will kill 2 birds with one stone. Since those bullets get seated and roll crimped flush with the case mouth, powder position and crimp issues are eliminated from the problem solving matrix.
Forgot to mention this was all using CCI 500 primers and OAL of 1.425". Pretty aggressive roll crimp for a plated bullet, but recovered slugs show no plating failure.Here's my chrono data from the last time I flogged this projectile.