Sig P365XL

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Your experiences mirror mine with the Shield the pointedish thin backstrap seemed to want to move around in my hand. Liked the Shield, very well built and balanced just didn’t fit for me. Went to my CZ PCR which I love but would like to shave some weight off it for summertime carry, hence looking for a polymer striker option that isn’t too thick but not as thin as the majority of the single stacks out there.

I get why people are confused as to why someone would be excited about this, and understand the comments. But for me it seems to be the carry piece I’ve been waiting for. I have a feeling other manufacturers will come out with similar offerings once they figure out the design of the Sig magazine for their platforms.

Glock will have to ditch the polymer casing on their magazines and replace the mag release to compete at that capacity and thickness I think. Other manufacturers should have an easier time with such an endeavor.

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While I think the Sig 365 is a great gun, I do not see other Firearm manufacturers jumping on the band wagon of redesigning all their micro 9mm's just to add a few more rounds. I know Sig 365 fans are big into these extra rounds, and it is hard for them to understand that it is not of importance, desired or even wanted by many. I personally do not want the extra weight, or a double stack magazine. I prefer a single stack. I remember when members of my club tested the 365 none of the shooters testing the gun were very excited about the 10 round magazine (all were very experienced shooters). It was not even mentioned very much. They were focused on how well the gun shot.And to this date, I would say 6 months ago, only one of us bought the 365 and that was a female shooter that liked the smaller grip.
If I do want to carry more rounds in a firearm, then I will go with a sub-compact which I feel or better sized for double stack magazines. I hope other manufactures leave their Micro 9's alone. Don't want extra rounds. I saw that the Sig 365 is coming out with a 15 round magazine. That should make them very happy. Me, not at all interested.
I know I will get flamed for what I just said, but just being honest. And Please, I am NOT disparaging the Sig 365. Although I do believe they should come out with another size grip for those like myself that just did not like the fact that there was just too much potential to ride the slide. Maybe then, I would be more receptive toward the gun. And if they do, keep the weight down. Do not go over the weight it already is.

It's interesting that some do not care for the extra rounds in the magazine. I was shooting my 365 along with my Sig P938 and found it very nice that I could continue to shoot after the other gun was empty. Makes it seem like a larger gun in operation but disappears in my pants pocket.

Casefull said:

It's interesting that some do not care for the extra rounds in the magazine. I was shooting my 365 along with my Sig P938 and found it very nice that I could continue to shoot after the other gun was empty. Makes it seem like a larger gun in operation but disappears in my pants pocket.

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Then I think you will love the 15 round magazine that will be coming out for the 365. .
I always end up buying a lot of mags for all my guns. So at the range, I really do not have a lot of need for a lot or rounds. I like to shoot a full mag, take a break and make any mental adjustments and just load another mag.
But hey, each to his own. If you enjoy continuous shooting that is great.

Walkalong said:

I wonder if they kept the slide weight down? I had an aluminum framed 5" 1911 I hated because the heavy slide coupled with the lightweight frame made for a lot of muzzle flip.

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My experience with 1911s was always that the recoil spring assembly seemed to control felt recoil way more than frame material. I am no 1911 guru, but I do recall that a 3", aluminum-framed Kimber seemed like it had way less recoil than a steel 5" government, and the only reason I could think of that that might be was because of the double recoil spring, full-length guide rod setup versus the GI setup.

Jeb Stuart said:

Then I think you will love the 15 round magazine that will be coming out for the 365. .
I always end up buying a lot of mags for all my guns. So at the range, I really do not have a lot of need for a lot or rounds. I like to shoot a full mag, take a break and make any mental adjustments and just load another mag.
But hey, each to his own. If you enjoy continuous shooting that is great.

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I think you misunderstood my point in that you mentioned continuous shooting as though I am just blasting away. Far from it.
My sole purpose for owning a 365 is as a pocket carry self defense gun. If I was ever in a life-threatening situation I would much rather have 11 rounds versus six, but that's just me. I do not care nor need to endlessly run rounds through small pistols. I would not be interested in a larger magazine than the 12 round one. But as you say, each to his own. Once I determine that the particular firearm is reliable I only need to shoot it periodically to make sure it's still reliable.
I like trying to wear out my full-size pistols instead. LOL

Yes, each to his own. But I just enjoy shooting them And I like competing with my self. Am I a better shooter for shooting more often than just to get by? I would say it is just like any Sport. I guess a guy can go to the golf course once a month, and consider himself proficient. But I would put my money on the guy that hits the course often. And if it is not fun, then what is the Point? I shoot a lot, because I love doing it. I know guys that can shoot a heck of a lot better with a 5 round snubbie than some guys that has to have 11 rounds. You need more rounds, get more rounds. I have no problem with that. I figure if you cannot get the job done in a few rounds, 11 rounds is not going to matter.
. Sorry, I will continue to practice with my EDC guns at least weekly. I am not that good enough to just put them away and seldom shoot them. If you can, then my hat is off to you.
The bottom line, is this. I believe in shooting and training as if your life depended on it. And I do not see why it is difficult to do diligent training anyway. I ran twice a day for almost my whole life except once on Sunday or a day off before a race. It was just a habit and I never would have been worth a hoot without diligent training. No big deal.

I get irritable when I do not get my fix.

Jeb Stuart said:

I have no problem with that. I figure if you cannot get the job done in a few rounds, 11 rounds is not going to matter.

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We saw John Wick 3 tonight. The extra rounds sure mattered to him.

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If one can find the time to practice weekly, they should.

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My old Running coach as a kid told me once. The key to being good is "Frequent Moderate Workouts". I am fortunate that I have memberships to three ranges. Two indoor ranges, one a mile to the north and one a mile to the South from my home. And one out door range out of town. So it is easy for me to hit a range a few times a week if only for one box of ammo. Training sessions, are not long, or grueling, just enough to keep honed. The outdoor range is a day for just a lot of fun. Make a day out of it. Bring pistols, rifles etc. Lot of steel plate shooting. Usually once a month. I also shoot a lot of Pellet and BB guns at home in my back yard.
It might sound like a lot, but not really. I try to make it SIMPLE. Mostly just making it a habit, getting off my butt and out the door.

I shoot mostly small barrel guns, and the goal is always to hone my point and shoot skills. And to reduce cost and just have fun, these two little guns have been a blessing. I keep one in the Car and a few boxes of ammo.
Actually one of the best investment I every made. And not a big investment in cash at that.




Just realized this thread as gotten off topic from the Op's original post. Sorry. Will try and bring it back.

The more I see the Pics and spec of the 365xl, the more I like it and the more it makes sense. Not as a pocket gun, but the next step up. Better than most subcompacts due to the light weight and size. And to me, the sub compact is a different animal. While I do not care for a large round count in a Micro 9, I would like the higher round count in a Sub. I would really like to shoot this gun and try it out. At 20 oz it is really nice.

We know that Ruger used the Keltec in the design of the LCP. And I have always wondered if Sig did the same with the 365? Regardless, It is a interesting comparison. And note the Kel-tec is even lighter. I believe Keltec is discontinued. I wonder if they plan on bringing it back, just make it heavier to reduce recoil. I also think it would nice, to see the Sig 365 in DAO.
Just food for thought.

The p365xl has my interest as well... I’ve often wished that sub compacts had longer slides/barrel and shorter grips. The barrel is the easier part to conceal ( and IMO hides easier than a short barrel carried IWB by lowering its center of mass thereby drawing the back/top tighter into the body) and the longer sight radius and added velocity is more important to me than round count; extended mags can remedy that if desired but the heel of the grip is the hardest to conceal so I’d carry it with the smallest mag inserted and the extended magazines for reloads.
I have yet to shoot any p365 but the one I fondled at the store felt good in my hand.

At aprox the same time I heard about the p365xl was when I also became aware that s&w has a 4” version of the shield. Now I have to decide but I’m hoping to get a chance to shoot the p365 (any model) before I make up my mind. I’ve had a standard shield before and just wasn’t that impressed. But with a 4” slide and an apex flat trigger I’m sure my opinion would change.
Sig definitely has the edge as far as size is concerned... and the added capacity is a bonus. If it shoots decently enough it will be hard to say no.

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I’ve looked at the 4” PC Shield but I didn’t like the grip on the Shield I had, it was too narrow and pointed on the backstrap for my liking. It took readjusting my grip in between shots too much. I put a hogue grip on it which helped dramatically but defeated the purpose of its thinness. That is a big reason for why this 365xl looks good to me it has the longer barrel, shorter grip that I like and is a little bit wider than the Shield (I think about 0.2” or so).

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I agree about the shield feeling TOO thin for it size.. and holding it side by side with my gen1 m&p compact, the shield actually has a slightly larger silhouette than the compact... while holding 5 round less. So it went to the gun show and a sig 1911 came home instead.

So I was reading about the 365xl today and noticed for the first time that the grip is taller/ longer and isn’t compatible with the standard p365 mags... kinda a turn off for me but then I thought about sigs replaceable grip modules and the short gripped p365 grip modules are readily available for $14.99-19.99 (cheap IMO) as well as custom stippled/ etched modules.
Am just dreaming or is there any reason I couldn’t buy an xl model and replace the grip module with a custom stippled p365 module for a long slide/ short grip setup that I want?