I need help coming up with a strategy for concealed carry

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bos19 said:
My workplace is in a very nice location and I am very tempted to just keep the gun in my locked glovebox in my car only when I'm working,
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Buy a gun lock box and mount it under the seat or in the trunk to lock your gun up safely.

bos19 said:
The one issue is the 19 seems like it can potentially be an issue if I'm wearing summer clothes, which is why I am considering getting the 43.
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Sometimes to carry concealed you have to dress around the gun, not the other way around.

This is extremely important, if you do decide to carry or have your gun in your car no one and I mean no one must ever know. Not your best friend, not a neighbor and especially no one at work can know. Trust no one because they will make a mistake or do it on purpose but you will be found out if you tell anyone!
 
bos19 said:
So I'm planning on starting to conceal carry soon for the first time, but am not sure how to go about it. I've been struggling to come up with a strategy for my average workday, as I work a 9-5 type job at a company that is not gun-friendly. The employee handbook says no guns in the building and I'm not looking to get fired, but the issue is since work takes up so much of my week, I don't know how to work around not being able to have a gun on me at all times. If my friends want to go to the movies right after work or I have to go to the store, mall, etc. I don't want to have to drive out of my way to go home and get my conceal carry gun. My workplace is in a very nice location and I am very tempted to just keep the gun in my locked glovebox in my car only when I'm working, even though I know it's not ideal. There are literally thousands of other cars at my workplace, so the chances of my car being broken into on a secure campus with cameras everywhere outside that are actually used are small. Thoughts?
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Kel-tec .380 is substantially smaller & lighter. If recoil is bothersome there is .32ACP.
 
ArchAngelCD said:
This is extremely important, if you do decide to carry or have your gun in your car no one and I mean no one must ever know. Not your best friend, not a neighbor and especially no one at work can know. Trust no one because they will make a mistake or do it on purpose but you will be found out if you tell anyone!
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I don't think this can be emphasized strongly enough. Whether your employer permits you to have gun in your car or not, the fact that you do (or not) is no one's business. As Tony mentioned if you tell anyone they will tell someone else.

To expand on this idea a little bit, when you get your permit (IMO) you'd be better off to keep that knowledge on a strict need to know basis.
 
If I were to carry at work it would end my career. I doubt that I would ever again be able to work in my profession. My workplace is safer than most, IMO. So, I don't carry at work.

A few times I have had a firearm locked in my trunk for one reason or another, mostly because I picked it up from my FFL at lunch and didn't have time to drop it off at home. As far as I know that would also be a fireable offense. However, since I never breathed a word about it to anyone, and as far as I know no one has ever had their trunk broken into in our parking lot, I was willing to take the risk (something extremely close to 0%).
 
Most people can't afford to take the risk because they are tied to their job by health insurance and income. In this case decision is easy it's not like the person is working overnight at convenient mart. Guy at local 7-11 told me if he was held up he would give person the money and take groceries to their car. How those people stay on those jobs I don't know.
 
May not be common in this circle/forum, but on other forums when the topic has come up throughout the years, seems that the consensus was that a handfull either were their own boss, had jobs where they were allowed to carry, and just about everyone else carried anyway and told no one. I haven't come across one story where someone was found out. Like I said, if you're uncomfortable with the concept because you believe you're firearm will somehow be discovered, lock it in your car and take your chance.

Google "Kate Nixon" from the Virginia Beach, Va shooting. She worked during normal business hours near City Hall, the School Board building, the court house, police station, etc. All within a couple of minutes walk from one another. The area is litterally swarming with cops during the day. Who needs a gun under those circumstances right? According to her husband, he and Kate had this very conversation days before the shooting occurred.

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Jason Nixon encouraged his wife to hide a pistol in her purse and take it to work — she had training and knew how to use it — but she didn't want to break city policy forbidding employees from bringing weapons to work.

Shortly after 4 p.m. on May 31, it was Craddock who opened fire in Building 2, killing Kate and 11 others.
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She leaves behind a husband and two young children...
 
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bos19 said:
So I'm planning on starting to conceal carry soon for the first time, but am not sure how to go about it....average workday,....9-5 type job at a company that is not gun-friendly. The employee handbook says no guns in the building and I'm not looking to get fired, but the issue is since work takes up so much of my week, I don't know how to work around not being able to have a gun on me at all times.....workplace is in a very nice location and I am very tempted to just keep the gun in my locked glovebox in my car only when I'm working,....Thoughts?
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Your situation is similar, thought not identical, to mine. Employer's policy forbids handguns in the office and in courtrooms. Technically, each judge gets to decide who may or may not carry in his or her courtroom, but I don't think the judge's permission (even if I had it) would trump policy. Maybe I couldn't be prosecuted for carrying, but I could be fired. In theory, I could carry. I'm currently a prosecutor, and we're allowed to go around the metal detectors. I wear a suit, so a cover garment (suit coat) is expected year-round. With all of that said, as soon as I get to work, my gun goes in a gun safe, which is cabled to the car & hidden, like this one. I put holster and mag pouch in my desk, and put the gun back on as soon as I get back to my car.
 
Spats McGee said:
Your situation is similar, thought not identical, to mine. Employer's policy forbids handguns in the office and in courtrooms. Technically, each judge gets to decide who may or may not carry in his or her courtroom, but I don't think the judge's permission (even if I had it) would trump policy. Maybe I couldn't be prosecuted for carrying, but I could be fired. In theory, I could carry. I'm currently a prosecutor, and we're allowed to go around the metal detectors. I wear a suit, so a cover garment (suit coat) is expected year-round. With all of that said, as soon as I get to work, my gun goes in a gun safe, which is cabled to the car & hidden, like this one. I put holster and mag pouch in my desk, and put the gun back on as soon as I get back to my car.
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I'd leave my firearm in the car too if I was in your profession. It's probably against the law in your state, there are metal detectors at the entrance, and there are usually armed bailiffs and L.E. in the courtroom or in the vicinity.
 
"Most people can't afford to take the risk because they are tied to their job by health insurance and income."

That is an excellent point. I might die if there were an incident at my job site. I would die if I had no insurance to help pay for my medications.
 
So I decided that I’ll keep it in my locked glovebox in the parking lot. I’ve never heard of a break in at my work and there are thousands of cars. This begs another question though...What should I do if I need to run to the store or what not after work? It’s not exactly ideal to be attaching the holster with my loaded gun in it while I’m in a seated position in my car and I obviously don’t want to be attaching the holster outside of my car for the world to see
 
bos19 said:
So I decided that I’ll keep it in my locked glovebox in the parking lot. I’ve never heard of a break in at my work and there are thousands of cars. This begs another question though...What should I do if I need to run to the store or what not after work? It’s not exactly ideal to be attaching the holster with my loaded gun in it while I’m in a seated position in my car and I obviously don’t want to be attaching the holster outside of my car for the world to see
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That depends on the holster and carry position. My holster is easily put on and off while seated. What holster and carry position are you using?
 
bearcreek said:
That depends on the holster and carry position. My holster is easily put on and off while seated. What holster and carry position are you using?
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I have an IWB Kydex holster and have been experimenting with the appendix carry position. I was considering a Glock 43 for easier concealment, but I was also considering getting a pocket pistol to avoid the awkwardness with attaching the holster after work if I were to go to the mall, for example
 
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bos19 said:
I have an IWB Kydex holster and have been experimenting with the appendix carry position
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Are you in good shape physically? That's a topic that's often missing from a discussion of carry methods and techniques but it's absolutely critical. Also, what kind of attachment method does you holster use? Hooks, loops? Is it a purpose built appendix holster or multi position? Multi position holsters are usually a compromise that do nothing really well.
 
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Does your state preempt employers from prohibiting guns even in the parking lot? Something to check, because while the odds are very tiny with so many other vehicles, it might not get stolen, but if it is against company policy and the state allows employers to do so, you run the risk of termination.
 
bos19 said:
but I was also considering getting a pocket pistol to avoid the awkwardness with attaching the holster after work if I were to go to the mall, for example
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You'll find that it's all about practice and the right holster, (assuming you're not fat). With a holster like this https://www.tacticalholsters.com/product/phenom-stealth/ or similar, it's very easy to put the holster with the gun in it on and take it off discreetly. More discreetly than with a pocket gun actually. Less squirming around in the seat.
 
bearcreek said:
Are you in good shape physically? That's a topic that's often missing from a discussion of carry methods and techniques but it's absolutely critical. Also, what kind of attachment method does you holster use? Hooks, loops? Is it a purpose built appendix holster or multi position? Multi position holsters are usually a compromise that do nothing really well.
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I am in pretty good shape. I am 6’2 and weigh about 195ish lb, so I feel like I have to put more effort into concealment because I don’t generally wear baggy clothes. My holster has a clip and seems to be a multi position holster.
 
If your parking lot is secured, with cameras, I wouldn't feel unsafe leaving it in the car.
I have done so many times when I was going in places where it was not legal to carry.

As far as carry in the summer when you're wearing light, warm weather clothing, I pocket carry in that case.
My favorite method of carry is OWB under a sport coat, but in the summer months, sometimes the jacket simply has to come off during the day.
A S&W M&P Bodyguard is so thin and light, I forget it's in my pocket. Is it the ideal weapon if you're attacked? Of course not, but we have to decide what to give and take in various circumstances. I want to be comfortable, so this is the concession I'm willing to make.
 
bos19, how is the security in your workplace? Seems like you have a fairly secure facility.
"shootings happen at places of employment all the time" If that statement was true no one would ever go to work.
 
P5 Guy said:
bos19, how is the security in your workplace? Seems like you have a fairly secure facility.
"shootings happen at places of employment all the time" If that statement was true no one would ever go to work.
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Security is pretty legit with cameras all over the place and turnstiles at every door requiring an ID, but there is a story about someone getting into the building once who was not an employee. Sounded like a hunter or something. That is when I started to think about carrying. My concern is if security decides they want to do a random check with a metal detector wand or something like that
 
I'm your height and twenty pounds heavier and carry AIWB in a kydex belt clip holster. I can put my holstered 2.25" snub or Shield 9 back on while sitting in the car without any problem. I only reholster with the gun in the holster when appendix carrying. A significant number of folks have shot themselves reholstering. My job prohibited carrying a firearm in my work truck. It was the law and I never violated it even though it made no sense to me.
 
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