OMG! WalMart to stop selling all handgun ammo!

Styx said:

Their and store their rules. They have a business to rule at the end of the day.

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does running a business include?
"In addition, McMillon said that he would send letters to the White House and congressional leaders that "call for action" on "common sense" gun safety measures. McMillon said Congress should debate re-authorizing the assault weapons ban and expand background checks."

NIGHTLORD40K said:

Their CEO went the xtra mile in his statement calling for "common sense" gun reforms and said he would use his position to advocate for more restrictions.

THAT makes this personal, not just business.

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I missed that part. I don't have a problem with and I understand why they'd choose to not sell firearm related items. The "xtra mile" ticks me off...

Deanimator said:

My money, MY rules.

Do what I want or I'll go somewhere else or do without.

I owe Walmart... NOTHING.

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Yup your money your rules, and I never said you had to shop there. I don't take it personal when a business has rules that try to please their customers just like I wouldn't get upset or take it personal if I was on your property and had to follow your rules while there...

lionking said:

does running a business include?
"In addition, McMillon said that he would send letters to the White House and congressional leaders that "call for action" on "common sense" gun safety measures. McMillon said Congress should debate re-authorizing the assault weapons ban and expand background checks."

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No it does not, and I take issue with that part, but sadly the tide is turning.... Looks like the only placs that will be left for gun owners to go is to the LGS because we'll be boycotting everyone else.

ATAShooter said:

Yes, you’re right, when Walmart first came, they had everything down to handguns.

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Yep, I actually bought my first handgun from Walmart.

Styx said:

No it does not, and I take issue with that part, but sadly the tide is turning.... Looks like the only placs that will be left for gun owners to go is to the LGS because we'll be boycotting everyone else.

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Worse for me is Walmart is convenient for buying other stuff like Nutro cat food that no other grocery stores around here have, soda and other stuff that is cheaper there than other places. On principle I am debating stopping from going there all together because that CEO had to get political and choose to support a gun ban.

Despite what some say about the type of people who shop there I never went to mingle but to shop and stores in my area have always been as clean as other kinds of stores. This going to backfire like it did for Gillette with their "toxic masculinity " commercial that drove off many customers only to later have them apologizing and begging for them to come back.

lionking said:

Gillette with their "toxic masculinity " commercial that drove off many customers only to later have them apologizing and begging for them to come back.

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When did they apologize?

Kroger asked that we do not open carry in their stores now to now... Like I said, eventually we're going to be boycotting everyone.

tarosean said:

When did they apologize?

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I don’t recall them apologizing, but it cost them billions (yes, billions ... with a b).

Good enough of a lesson for me.

the right gifts low prices everyday, Academy...

Styx said:

Yup your money your rules, and I never said you had to shop there. I don't take it personal when a business has rules that try to please their customers just like I wouldn't get upset or take it personal if I was on your property and had to follow your rules while there...

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But tell Walmart or the social-fascists that and they'll actually tell you that you NEED to give Walmart your money.

Of course I heard the same thing from S&W fanbois during the boycott. I told them where to go and what to do when they got there as well.

Walmart corporate culture is indistinguishable from any other corporate behemoth. They are just slow learners. Pathetic, punitive, ineffective, and predictable. They could not care less.

What I wonder is with this opportunity open for a very large national retail store to jump in on the vacuum that Walmart is leaving, who could do it? The largest retail stores on par with Walmart that have a big customer base would be Dollar General, but they've never had a sporting goods section and I doubt they'd be interested in the social media firestorm.

Lowe's and Home Depot could, but like Dollar General ammo and sporting goods is outside their scope of business. Ace Hardware is a big chain and I've seen basic ammo at Ace's out in the Midwest, but offering the amount of ammo Walmart does would be a big policy change for them nationwide.

So, the final possible option I can think of who I think would actually be interested in doing it, and I'm not joking, is Harbor Freight.

They have over 1000 stores in the US, they sell gun equipment already (ammo cans, gun cases, safes, brass cleaning tumblers, ultrasonic cleaners) and I will bet that a very large portion of their customer base are gun owners.

The only thing is I don't think people would be interested in buying Pittsburgh brand 9mm ammo with a lifetime warranty, so HF would have to break a rule and sell brand name ammo (Winchester, Federal, etc.) after buying from a distributor.

taliv said:

i don't trust you. boycotts have often been effective. many others are sending the same message. i don't expect them to reverse their decision, and actually think while painful to some, it will be better for the market as a whole. still, we should send a message

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taliv said:

i don't trust you. boycotts have often been effective. many others are sending the same message. i don't expect them to reverse their decision, and actually think while painful to some, it will be better for the market as a whole. still, we should send a message


my LGS is the same. the reason they tell everyone is they can't compete. walmart sells it cheaper than they can buy it.
but....
now that walmart is out of the business, they can compete again. will they sell for the price walmart was? of course not. it will be more expensive.
but we are much better off having lots and lots of small retailers, rather than one large one that can cause a significant disruption in the supply of ammo. we're lucky they didn't just stop all sales and destroy the existing inventory

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Listen if you think Walmart gives a dam what you think, or what I think, or what 5 million NRA members think, you are naive. This is a company serving the public at a rate of 265 million people a week. 62% of whom recently polled in favor of banning semi autos. So, no you can try to send them your receipts or whatever, Their message to you will be don' let the door hit you in the @&$. And I don't trust you either.

TTv2 said:

What I wonder is with this opportunity open for a very large national retail store to jump in on the vacuum that Walmart is leaving, who could do it? The largest retail stores on par with Walmart that have a big customer base would be Dollar General, but they've never had a sporting goods section and I doubt they'd be interested in the social media firestorm.

Lowe's and Home Depot could, but like Dollar General ammo and sporting goods is outside their scope of business. Ace Hardware is a big chain and I've seen basic ammo at Ace's out in the Midwest, but offering the amount of ammo Walmart does would be a big policy change for them nationwide.

So, the final possible option I can think of who I think would actually be interested in doing it, and I'm not joking, is Harbor Freight.

They have over 1000 stores in the US, they sell gun equipment already (ammo cans, gun cases, safes, brass cleaning tumblers, ultrasonic cleaners) and I will bet that a very large portion of their customer base are gun owners.

The only thing is I don't think people would be interested in buying Pittsburgh brand 9mm ammo with a lifetime warranty, so HF would have to break a rule and sell brand name ammo (Winchester, Federal, etc.) after buying from a distributor.

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The only problem there is that, unlike the tools, Chinese ammo importation has been banned for some time........

Hello!!?? Ever heard of Academy Sports? Not only are their prices great, they have a HUGE selection of brands of ammunition. I stopped buying ammo at Walmart years ago. PLUS, Academy will ship it to you. Sometimes for free. I’ve never had a shipment take more than 4 days from “Place Order” to “Delivered”.

Seriously, look them up.

Here. For everyone too lazy, I’ll post the link.
https://www.academy.com/shop/browse/outdoors/shooting/ammunition

NIGHTLORD40K said:

The only problem there is that, unlike the tools, Chinese ammo importation has been banned for some time........

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Like I said, I think Harbor Freight would have to go through a distributor to buy brand name ammo.

There's more than just China that can make ammo. The Filipino's are pretty pro gun, they could make the ammo.

I thought something was up. And I think this has been in the works for some time.

I went a couple close by places Sunday looking for .357 158gr JSP, no luck. So I went out of my way to a WM in a small town I'd bought them from before, 5 boxes I think. They only had 3 boxes. I also noticed handgun ammunition was VERY limited in all calibers compared to the last time I was there. I asked the salesperson when they were getting more. She scanned the box and said, "I don't show anymore on order." I bought it all.

Went to another WM in a different town the next day. They also had only 3 boxes. I asked when they were getting more. The guy scanned the box and said, "I show 1 box coming the 15th." I said, "You mean one case?" His reply, "That's not what it says." I bought all of it there also.

I just assumed .357 158gr JSP wasn't popular enough to stock in large quantities. I was going to hit another WM today, kind of on the way home from work, but I won't bother now.

After the announcement my wife called Sam's. Told them she was cancelling her membership and why. She was told they would prorate her member refund. She told the person on the phone why she was doing it and she wanted corporate to know. The lady assured her she would pass it on.

Whether boycotts work can be determined on a case by case scenario. What I do know is that the anti's are very vocal and well organized. If companies only hear them that's who they're going to pander to. We need to be just as vocal and organized. On a related note I'm wondering if shareholder suits are an option for public corporations who take political stances and who's stock prices suffer as a result of that decision. A corporation's first obligation is to their stockholders and they can be held liable for violating that.

Styx said:

I buy handgun ammo at Walmart all the time as well as firearm cleaning supplies. Also, from what I read, Wal-mart is only asking customers not to open carry, and they are only banning 223/556 and 7.62x39 type of ammo. They are NOT banning all handgun ammo...

For those of you who are going to boycott Wal-Mart, are you also going to boycott all the majority of other stores, supermarkets, and businesses that NEVER sold firearms, ammo, and/or allowed any for of carry?

I personally don't blame Wal-Mart. They are a business who is trying to appease two competing demographics. They just hadvan idiot commit a mass shooting 9f their customers in their store, and shortly there after, with the support of many in the gun community, had another idiot open carry an AR into their store which shut down the store, scared customers/employees, and cost the business money.... I'm not mad at Wal-Mart, I'm mad at the idiots who are going to Wal-Mart with firearms to settle their political differences...

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There is a lot of truth in this post. I disagree with Walmart decisions regarding to stop selling some guns and ammo (I only buy some shotgun shells there occasionally) but they are under a lot of pressure, and if they think this will work for them, that’s their right.

As far as open carry, I’m not a fan in most places these days, especially sensitive locations. That clown who carried an AR into a Walmart should have been butt-stroked with his own gun. Friggin moron, just like the monkey-boys who were showing up at Starbucks slinging AK’s.

We need discretion. We need to be the epitome of lawful. That is the reality we live in today...

TTv2 said:

What I wonder is with this opportunity open for a very large national retail store to jump in on the vacuum that Walmart is leaving, who could do it? The largest retail stores on par with Walmart that have a big customer base would be Dollar General, but they've never had a sporting goods section and I doubt they'd be interested in the social media firestorm.

Lowe's and Home Depot could, but like Dollar General ammo and sporting goods is outside their scope of business. Ace Hardware is a big chain and I've seen basic ammo at Ace's out in the Midwest, but offering the amount of ammo Walmart does would be a big policy change for them nationwide.

So, the final possible option I can think of who I think would actually be interested in doing it, and I'm not joking, is Harbor Freight.

They have over 1000 stores in the US, they sell gun equipment already (ammo cans, gun cases, safes, brass cleaning tumblers, ultrasonic cleaners) and I will bet that a very large portion of their customer base are gun owners.

The only thing is I don't think people would be interested in buying Pittsburgh brand 9mm ammo with a lifetime warranty, so HF would have to break a rule and sell brand name ammo (Winchester, Federal, etc.) after buying from a distributor.

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I’m sure Harbor Freight could get Wolf to rebrand ammo to their needs. With a 20% off coupon and a free gift.....

Walmart’s statement about open carry was a little scary. They said they would try and talk reasonable looking people out of it, if they thought the person looked scary, they would call the cops. What!!!t

The scary thing is if the countries largest retailer creates this comprehensive new anti policy, it will only open the floodgates for other retailers who were on the fence about it.

Create a rush to see who is the next one, with ever more restrictive policies. Look at me! Look at me!

mshootnit said:

62% of whom recently polled in favor of banning semi autos.

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It seems like, with an issue as charged as this one (meaning that people are willing to admit their stance publicly on this issue), alienating 38% of your customer base can't be good business sense.

mshootnit said:

Listen if you think Walmart gives a dam what you think, or what I think, or what 5 million NRA members think, you are naive. This is a company serving the public at a rate of 265 million people a week. 62% of whom recently polled in favor of banning semi autos. So, no you can try to send them your receipts or whatever, Their message to you will be don' let the door hit you in the @&$. And I don't trust you either.

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Who did that poll? What were the questions?
Remember when polls said Hillary had a 95% chance of winning?