Scrapiron45
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I'm trying to learn a little more about the Seneca, when it was made, strengths, weaknesses, any experiences anyone's had with them.
Many thanks.
Many thanks.
When they used to make the Ball-Ets those were a short, hollow based mine' style that worked pretty well.I'd also note that these muzzleloaders' barrels are all a tad different. The loads woodnbow describes and the load I describe... they may well not be interchangeable between the two rifles.
The conicals I attempted to use weighed 485grs. I tried some powerbelts and I forget the weight but I'm pretty sure they're geared more for in-lines and Pyrodex pellets. I'd be curious about a shorter conical... maybe one that's made similar to a wadcutter.
I'm trying to learn a little more about the Seneca, when it was made, strengths, weaknesses, any experiences anyone's had with them.
Many thanks.
It's sad to see someone say that Traditions guns are junk or worse than old TC's when every gun can have defects.
I once bought a lightly used TC Renegade and had to send it to TC to have the lock fixed which they won't repair for free or at all anymore under their lifetime warranty that is no longer honored.
The lock wouldn't stay cocked.
And TC also doesn't carry parts anymore.
However Traditions does carry parts and still repairs their guns under their lifetime rifle warranty.
To make generalizations about what brand is junk is which isn't just depends on the individual gun that a person ends up buying and the luck of the draw.
Some folks would rather have a new Traditions than a used TC because of the parts and previous wear and tear when buying a used gun.
I said that Traditions were junk by comparison to to TC quality. That is simply my opinion and I stand by it. You can certainly disagree if you wish. Traditions guns are serviceable I suppose, but you get what you pay for.
I have owned both. I never regretted owning the TC Hawken and Renegade that I bought, and I still own the Hawken over 30 years later.
I haven't had any problems with the TC gun. Period.
It will outlive me.
The Traditions Kentucky is long gone and good riddance.
TC guns like the Seneca use first class walnut and are fitted and finished far better than anything that Traditions has ever made.
-Traditions uses stained beech for a lot of their stocks.
TC coil spring locks are probably the most reliable locks ever produced for modern production side lock guns.
-Traditions Spanish made locks are very crude internally.
TC hammers line up with their nipples perfectly and use a proper snail breech plug.
-Traditions rifles that I have seen use a screwed in drum for the nipple and often this does not line up properly with the face of the hammer.
The fact that TC doesn't honor their warranty anymore is regrettable, but it doesn't change the fact that guns like the Seneca DO exhibit an extremely high standard of quality.
TC has evolved so much as a company since they made these rifles that they are really almost unrecognizable as the original company.
It's just the way it is. Companies change and sometimes change ownership or go out of business. This could happen to Traditions as well.
There are a lot of older guns out there that no longer have warranty coverage. I don't think that that should stop people from buying and using fine firearms like the TC Seneca. Just inspect it well to be sure that it is serviceable.
The geometry of the original cock that TC used to build flintlocks for many, many years needed to be redesigned.
Although it worked, it was known to eat flints and to have some problems sparking.
After TC came out with the new redesigned cock, many people ended up replacing their old cock.
But there's still many TC flintlocks on the marketplace with old inefficient cocks without any current TC replacement cock available.
So to say that TC's are always better quality compared to Traditions sounds a lot like being a "shill" for TC.