grandpawj
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Any of you fellas ever fireform 30-30 brass to the 7-30 Waters. If so how did it go?
I'm not getting something here. How does one fit a .330 neck case into a .310 chamber for fireforming?
As a past Hunter and 30/30 fan, in large part because of the rifle it’s self, I’m curious of the benefits of a 7MM rimed round. What rifle would be used.
Apoliges if off topic.
I fire-formed .30-30 Winchester brass in my 7-30 Waters TC Contender.
My first barrel was a re-chambered 7mm, unclear whether it was a 7 GNR or 7-30 Ackley Improved. Case failure was 50% and vented gas in the neck.
My second barrel is a true 7-30 Waters and case life and accuracy have been great with IMR 3031 and a 139 grain bullet.
You use empty 30-30 brass, and run it through the full length resizing die on a reloading press. That resizes the neck down to fit in the 7-30 chamber. It takes surprisingly little force to do it and it comes out very uniform and very nice most of the time.I'm not getting something here. How does one fit a .330 neck case into a .310 chamber for fireforming?
You use empty 30-30 brass, and run it through the full length resizing die on a reloading press. That resizes the neck down to fit in the 7-30 chamber. It takes surprisingly little force to do it and it comes out very uniform and very nice most of the time.
Full length sizing reduces neck diameter using external pressure against the case and internal pressure against the neck.
A Waters cartridge also pushes the shoulder forward (increasing internal volume). Fire forming or hydraulic forming is required to create an internal pressure against the shoulder to push the shoulder forward as the final step.
As an example see the modified 7mm unknown on the left and the 7mm Waters on the right in the attached photo. The unknown was fire formed and the right was full length sized, fire forming gives the Waters final shoulder definition and form against the rifle chamber wall.
The 7-30 waters is interesting, but the only aerodynamic 7mm bullet that's designed for tube magazines is the 120 gr FTX.