Favorite heavy 9mm projectiles

For 147s I like the RMR Heavy Match Winners
https://www.rmrbullets.com/shop/bul...cket-heavy-matchwinner-flat-nose-bullets-new/

$90K with free shipping before the THR 5% discount.

Factory 147 grain lead conical flat point (by factory, I mean factory cast for me to load) or, for guns that will feed them, the RCBS 38-150KT sized to .356. Worked wonderfully well in a P85 for bowling pin shoots. Was going to try it on raccoon and woodchuck but someone wanted the gun more than I did.

taliv said:

Interesting thanks!
It says cz pistols are known for having a short lease and those 147g RMR might not work. Anyone know about cz scorpion? I know fiochi 158g function fine.

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RMR also has a 147 gr round nose as well for those barrels that have short leades. I prefer the MW but have a few guns that I’d have to go a lot shorter in COL. I shoot the MW in competition. For practice and when I can’t shoot jacketed, I’ll either shoot the Bayou bullets 145 RN, or the Blue Bullets 147 RN - note you have to go to the “special profiles” and select the .356, otherwise their coated is .355, just FYI, whatever works for you.
For SD I carry/practice with the Federal 147 HST.
Guys I shoot with swear by the 165gr extreme bullet behind a bit of Titegroup. I haven’t quite gotten there yet.

I used almost every brand. I think the best are the XTREME bullets 147 grain. Or the Precision Delta's.

Get to MB they will send a sample pack of 100 for you to try before buying a bunch. I use the MB Match Winners but have standard chambers so I am not much help.

I cast a few different heavies for the 9mm. My absolute favorite has to be the NOE ELCO. http://noebulletmolds.com/NV/produc...cts_id=1911&osCsid=n4i3o34dqlp2o86ndornm1a6l5

Due to the bullet design you can seat it much longer than most heavies.

Hello, this is my first post on this forum.
The problem that I ran into with heavy bullets in a 9mm was; in order to get them seated to a short enough Over All Length required seating them deeply. Which caused the case to bulge because of the tapered interior of the case, and made them too big to chamber. If I remember correctly, it was the Lyman 357446 160ish grain SWC that caused me the problem.

In my CZ75 SP01, I've shot 147gr Berry's HBRN and 125gr Blue Bullets, both subsonic suppressed. They both work fine.

Jeez, I'm surprised to see some of the weights you guys are loading. Heaviest I've gone in the 9mm is 147. I am a bit gun shy, however, early in my 9mm loading career I ran into serious problems with pressure... something I eventually traced to bullet seat depth, and my lack of attention to it. I don't know if the short barrels on my Kahrs would benefit from a heavier bullet, but it's an interesting discussion anyway.

I'm still trying to develop a "favorite". Right now on the bench I have Berry's hybrid hollow points and Precision Delta TCFP both in 147 grain. Both have been "plunk checked" in my wife's CZ for COAL. The hybrids shoot well enough, so far??

I shoot CZ's and have to load short and have found that SNS Castings 147gr round nose flat points are shaped to allow me to load them long and still pass the plunk test. https://www.snscasting.com/new-9mm-147-grain-flat-point-red-coated-500ct/

I was just going to stick with 147gr for suppressed Beretta and future 9mm carbine.
158s or 160s from a carbine might be kind of cool.
When you say cheap you mean like almost free or 10 cents per projectile?

I went with the 125's (.05 - .06 each) because they are cheap and I don't plan on using them for anything other than plinking.

lordpaxman said:

RMR also has a 147 gr round nose as well for those barrels that have short leades. I prefer the MW but have a few guns that I’d have to go a lot shorter in COL. I shoot the MW in competition. For practice and when I can’t shoot jacketed, I’ll either shoot the Bayou bullets 145 RN, or the Blue Bullets 147 RN - note you have to go to the “special profiles” and select the .356, otherwise their coated is .355, just FYI, whatever works for you.
For SD I carry/practice with the Federal 147 HST.
Guys I shoot with swear by the 165gr extreme bullet behind a bit of Titegroup. I haven’t quite gotten there yet.

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Unless somethings changed, I had a terrible experience with the RMR 147RN in my CZ75 Accu-Shadow Light. I had to seat them deep enough in the case to fit my leade that it caused case bulges in about 20% of my loaded rounds. These weren't the "stepped" cases and I didn't observe any systemic brass make that did it, but a whle bunch would not pass a chamber checker. When I did find an OAL that would bulge cases I couldn't use them in either my CZ, Colt 6951 or my Walther PPQs.

I now stick with the coated RNFP 147s from MBC and Bayou. I prefer the coated 147s that retained the grease grove as the nose profile allows for longer OAL.

taliv,
I don't know how many RMR Heavy MW I have left (but I do have some).
If you want to PM me your address I can send you a small sample to try so you can see if they will fit/work for you.

748 said:

I was just going to stick with 147gr for suppressed Beretta and future 9mm carbine.
158s or 160s from a carbine might be kind of cool.

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Very heavy 9mm bullets are a safety problem in 9mm. The lower velocities, higher bearing surface, and very limited gas volume means that there is a risk of sticking bullets in barrels. Unlike something like .357, where the big case means enough powder to keep the bullet accelerating for many, many inches of barrel, the 9mm's small case means it reaches the in-barrel deceleration point comparatively "soon." Take away gas and replace it with friction and a lower peak velocity, and you're flirting with a fully-charged squib situation.

Many reloading manuals recommend against the 147 projectiles in 9mm carbines for this reason. Going up to 158's seems... inadvisable.

Chuck R. said:

Unless somethings changed, I had a terrible experience with the RMR 147RN in my CZ75 Accu-Shadow Light. I had to seat them deep enough in the case to fit my leade that it caused case bulges in about 20% of my loaded rounds

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That’s unfortunate. And a perfect example of why we reloaders need to check max COL with each bullet and barrel. In the varied 9’s I have, the SA 1911 is the one that dictates my maximum length, and for the RMR 147’s, the MW max COL is 1.100 while the RN is 1.158. For all mine, the RN always has a much longer max COL. I don’t have a CZ, perhaps there’s little or no taper on the lands along with a short leade. I’m tempted to get a reamer just for that SA.

I guess if you go bigger you could go from a typical 5 to 6gr charge you would use with a 147gr bullet down 4gr pretty quick.

Dudedog said:

For 147s I like the RMR Heavy Match Winners
https://www.rmrbullets.com/shop/bul...cket-heavy-matchwinner-flat-nose-bullets-new/

$90K with free shipping before the THR 5% discount.

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Love RMR, been meaning to try these. The 135 MW is a fine bullet as well. I load their plated 124s for run n gun steel shooting.

lordpaxman said:

That’s unfortunate. And a perfect example of why we reloaders need to check max COL with each bullet and barrel. In the varied 9’s I have, the SA 1911 is the one that dictates my maximum length, and for the RMR 147’s, the MW max COL is 1.100 while the RN is 1.158. For all mine, the RN always has a much longer max COL. I don’t have a CZ, perhaps there’s little or no taper on the lands along with a short leade. I’m tempted to get a reamer just for that SA.

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Yup it was 2000 pieces of "unfortunate". Luckily I've got a couple M&P 5" Pros that could shoot them at the longer OALs.

I looked for a smith with a reamer to throat out my CZ and couldn't find one willing. Something about the coating they're now using being hard on reamers.