Question on a "new" ffl transfer gun

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Took in a gun on an ffl transfer that is supposed to be a new FN 509. Customer asked me to clean the excess oil from the gun. There was surprisingly little oil inside and then I noticed some plating chipped off of a couple of parts internally which makes me wonder if this is truly a new gun or maybe a return. Take a peek at the pics and let me know what you think.

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guyfromohio said:
Factory test round?

I’ve received brand new guns that have some spots like that.
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That's what I was thinking but wasn't bad enough wear or anything that I'd want to mention it to the customer without a few other opinions. But, it being an FN, I thought maybe their quality was a bit better than flaking the plating with only a couple of shots at the factory.
 
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Was thinking the same thing about test firing but if that's the case things do not bode well for the finish in the near future!
 
If you're confident from the rest of the gun that it is not worn/abused elsewhere, I go two ways.

Cleaning agents incompatible with the plating.

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Sorrowfully poor prep on the part of the manufacturer prior to the plating.

Bodes badly for the pistol if the plating is to be counted upon in normal use.

Flakes floating about the gun could be quite bad.

If the plating is NOT necessary, now would be a good time for him to have them stripped if not covered by a warranty.

Todd.
 
I have long been an FN guy and that seems a bit off. I would have him contact them and show them exactly the kind of metallurgy they are putting into their current product. As for function, I don't think those pieces would necessarily keep me from buying it.
 
ApacheCoTodd said:
If you're confident from the rest of the gun that it is not worn/abused elsewhere, I go two ways.

Cleaning agents incompatible with the plating.
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This gun was purchased from another dealer, purportedly as new stock. The reason I was cleaning it at all was to remove any manufacturing/shipping oil from it. Which, by the way, there didn't seem to be much internally.

Sorrowfully poor prep on the part of the manufacturer prior to the plating.
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This is the number one reason for failed plating. I spent years in the motorcycle industry before getting into the pawn biz and I've seen bad plating jobs.

Bodes badly for the pistol if the plating is to be counted upon in normal use.
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That part is internal and probably the plating loss won't be a big deal. That said, I had trouble imagining that this said good things about this gun and it's manufacture.

Flakes floating about the gun could be quite bad.
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That was the oddest part, I couldn't find any flakes inside. Reason to scratch head over this number 67. LOL

If the plating is NOT necessary, now would be a good time for him to have them stripped if not covered by a warranty.

Todd.
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I told him to keep an eye on it, he said I'd be doing that as my cleaning of a second gun he had brought me impressed him.
 
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