How to get the "slap" out of an AR15?

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I am debating on trying to flip one of my Savage Axis rifles and getting a Ruger AR15 for coyote hunting and maybe woodchuck hunting. I try and love the AR but I find I cant shoot them accurately because of the loud and forceful slap I get from the recoil tube or whatever its called. Is there a way to eliminate this? My buddy has a Ruger that has an adjustable target trigger, magpul stocks, etc. and I cant hit squat with that thing. I notice I jerk alot with them and its because of the slap they make in the stock and tube.

I'm mainly looking at Ruger MPR. I would prefer something in the heavy barrel range if possible. I figure more stability with shooting longer ranges?
 
The AR isn't heavy, but the round is puny. If you're getting a slap by the stock, I would suspect poor cheek weld and shoulder mount.

Try moving the butt up on your shoulder to get a better cheek weld; I also roll forward to get my head down onto the gun, and that seems to help.
 
Can't say I have ever experienced an AR recoil being called slap. Sounds like the ones you fired did not have a heavy enough buffer for you.
 
The "sproing" of the spring inside the buffer tube is obnoxious to me too. Ear muffs that made contact with the stock during firing just amplify it. I changed from to a Magpul MOE stock to an ACS-L stock and lightly oiled the spring. It helped a little but its still there on a S&W M&P. Sorry I don't have a solution for you, but I understand where you are coming from.
 
Are you talking about a physical recoil slap? If so, adjustable gas block, heavier buffer, or buffer spring. Sounds like if this is the case some gas system work needs to be done.

If you are talking about the SPROING sound then JP Enterprises “silent captured spring” buffer setup will eliminate that noise. Or a poor mans noise helper in this area is grease your buffer spring.

If you want a smooth shooter for coyotes in 556/223 get a 20”+ barrel (1:8 twist), rifle length gas and rifle buffer tube setup with an adjustable gas. Have someone who understands ARs help with the choosing of parts and setup.
 
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Some are over gassed. Need a heavier buffer or adjustable gas block. Adjustable gas block probably better. Tune it to be 100% reliable and no more kick than needed.

Above this post is the good answer
 
As others have suggested, an overgassed AR could give a "slap" sort of feel.

I find a mid-length system on an 18" barrel feels far "smoother" than a typical carbine-length system on a 14.5" or 16" barrel.
 
I can't say I have ever experienced anything I would call slap from the buffer tube on an AR. Can you elaborate on what you experience?
It’s not hitting my cheek. It’s like the sound of the spring hitting inside the tube. Almost like a ping noise that’s super loud and I can feel it inside the stock.
 
The "sproing" of the spring inside the buffer tube is obnoxious to me too. Ear muffs that made contact with the stock during firing just amplify it. I changed from to a Magpul MOE stock to an ACS-L stock and lightly oiled the spring. It helped a little but its still there on a S&W M&P. Sorry I don't have a solution for you, but I understand where you are coming from.
Yes. This is what I’m talking about. It always makes me move my head.
 
It’s not hitting my cheek. It’s like the sound of the spring hitting inside the tube. Almost like a ping noise that’s super loud and I can feel it inside the stock.

It's normal. Just the way Mistuh Stonuh designed it.

I actually like the sproing. Somewhere along the line, I discovered if I heard the
sproing, I hit what I was aiming at. Something to do with repeatable cheek weld/
aligning consistently with sights., I reckon.
 
I will never understand the dislike of the spring noise in an AR. Never found it loud or abusive even when shooting without hearing protection on a suppressed sub-sonic rifle. IF anything that noise its a feature IMHO, it's part of the feed back so the shooter knows the gun is empty because of the change in that sound as the bolt locks back. There are products out there to silence the "SPROING" but I struggle with why.
 
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I will never understand the dislike of the spring noise in an AR. Never found it loud or abusive even when shooting without hearing protection on a suppressed sub-sonic rifle. IF anything that noise its a feature IMHO, it's part of the feed back so the shooter knows the gun is empty because of the change in that sound as the bolt locks back. There are products out there to silence the "SPRONG" but I struggle with why.

Kinda like buying a new car, toss OEM tires & rims, and put new super-low profile tires ($$
and short tread life) on big-dollar, easy-bend rims, or changing triggers out (instead
of learning em). Gotta have something for the sig file, :)
 
Kinda like buying a new car, toss OEM tires & rims, and put new super-low profile tires ($$
and short tread life) on big-dollar, easy-bend rims, or changing triggers out (instead
of learning em). Gotta have something for the sig file, :)
Now none of my ARs are factory and none of them are anything close to an M-16 or M4 configuration. They are all self built/modified with lots of customization to make them what I want/need for a particular use. Only two of them are even 556. That said the "SPROING" noise has never been something I felt needed addressed and if anything it offers a minor feature of helping know when I am empty. That is JMHO.

There are products out there to reduce and/or eliminate the "SPROING" noise and some have already been shared and I am sure some more members here will be along to share more of those products.
 
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The SPROING noise is really noticeable to people new to the AR (it was to me long ago), but quickly fades nothing to those who shoot them often. Personally, I don't notice it anymore, but there are parts to "fix the problem."
 
Yes. This is what I’m talking about. It always makes me move my head.

Some springs do it really bad, others produce almost no noise. I just built a buddy an AR15 from PSA which shot incredibly smooth and made no buffer spring noise. I have had other combinations that were really loud. If you pull the spring out of the tube and smear some axle grease on it that take out about 90% of the noise and its free.
 
JP makes a quiet buffer setup but it’s expensive. It is annoying. I hate it, but there are ways to minimize the noise on the cheap. First and foremost a rifle stock instead of a carbine type adjustable stock helps to deaden the noise/vibration.
 
Okay how about the slap feeling when it recoils backward? I’m not talking the gun recoiling I’m talking the spring slamming into the buttstock
 
Well... very very few gun designs are of the constant recoil type, so all others and probably every self-loading gun you have ever shot slam into the back of the receiver/frame. The AR-15 series should bottom out by the elastomeric bit on the end of the buffer striking the end of the receiver extension ("buffer tube").

If it "slams into it" for real, enough there's notable, disconcerting mechanical recoil, that's been answered above: The gun is overgassed, or someone put the wrong buffer in (or both). How far does the brass eject? Go get a fired case: is it damaged in any way? Post photos if so.

Buffers are identifiable by marks (usually, if so on the front face of the buffer when the gun is cracked open) or by length etc, so share the gun maker, configuration, etc and the buffer. Photos are fine if not familiar enough to describe.

Because it MAY be just your perception as someone new to the platform I assume, but it also may be wrong and easy to fix. As the native gun, there are infinite options, so you can make a very, very, very soft shooting AR if you wish to. A troublesome "slap" on recoil is not intrinsic in the system.
 
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