Magnum Rifle - Is there a sweet spot?
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js8588
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Belts are found on cartridges too small to justify a .404 Jeffery, .416 Rigby. or .505 Gibbs parent case
The 404 Jeff is just absolute perfection. Shame it isn't more popular.
Sneakshot92
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Couldn't have put it better myself!! Happy shooting!
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Dad has a 7mm ultra. It has been his elk rifle for as long as I can remember. I know his dies are 7mm STW dies that got a trip to the smith and were wet honed out to ultra specs. I think he paid $20 for the used STW dies and spent $40 on the hone job. A good deal back then.
Btw. The longest shot on elk he ever took was at 120 yds. He can shoot it out to 600 on a friend's farm. He did take a Wyoming antelope at 700 yds during a blizzard 4 or 5 years back. That was a hell of a shot doping all that wind!!
Exactly.
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There are some great posts here...the desire for “magnum” or horse power is really cool and many love to try powerful old and new cartridges.... but if you choose to hunt with them you MUST shoot them well.... and that means practice....commitment to learn the round and become proficient with them. Many people can’t handle heavy recoil....and personally I would rather hunt with a guy that shoots a 270 awesome...than a guy that shoots a 300 Ultra Mag like ****!
Nature Boy
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This thread made me look into the 300 PRC
Now I want one.
(dang you THR!)
Now I want one.
(dang you THR!)
constant state of existence for me.......
cdb1
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When I place my order for a Rigby Highland Stalker .300 H&H Magnum, you guys will be the first to know.
Sneakshot92
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Yup. Case and point. My uncle hunts deer with a 22-250 and always has a freezer of venison. Another guy uses a 338 win mag and if he shoots one half the meat is usually destroyed.
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I have a good friend that insists on using a .300 Win Mag to hunt 150 lb. deer (if that) and he swears his rifle does less damage to the meat than a .308. Now how do you reconcile that one??? LOL
Aletheia
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Bullet choices.
illinoisburt
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Exactly! Choose a hard bullet with rounded profile will get lots of penetration but not so much damage. Soft bullets moving fast literally blow apart tissue. It's a balancing act an awful lot of hunters do not understand and get wrong.
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Yup. Of course load matters too. I mean my .416 Rigby is on a case that's usually considered an "ultra mangum" (same case as the .338 Lapua) but if I load it with a monolithic solid at say 1800 ft/s and shoot a deer with it the result will just be a .416 hole through the deer. It's a big hole obviously, but you could eat right up to it.
Sneakshot92
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His bullets probably pencil right through without much expansion.
WisBorn
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Shot placement is a big part of the meat damage. Shoot game in the ribs= very little damage. A shot in the front shoulder and you throw away the whole shoulder.
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Exactly. I grew up bowhunting so I always try to double lung them and if there's a short tracking job, no biggie. Usually they don't go more than 30-40 yards anyway. I'll happily trade a tracking job for a cleaner job of processing and more meat.
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you gotta make one son!
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yep. Double-lung shot with a rifle, same/same. They don’t go far if they can’t breath
.308 Norma
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It was late in the day a number of years back when a fairly decent 2-point, mule deer buck suddenly appeared in the stubble field my wife and I were sitting beside on the last day of the season. He was running, but when he stopped and looked back over his shoulder, he was only about 75 yards away. Both my wife’s rifle and my rifle barked (BA-BOOM!) almost simultaneously. And two bullets, one a 139gr Hdy from my wife’s 7mm-08, and the other, a 165gr Hdy from my 30-06, hit that deer in his left-front shoulder.
The deer’s hind quarters and back-straps were pretty good eating - not one bit of bloodshot or otherwise ruined meat. We dug a hole out in the pasture and buried what was left of the deer’s front half.
WisBorn
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Time to get back on track with the thread.
I would almost have to say any magnum cartridge under 7mm has little purpose, but we have the 257 Weatherby magnum. The 257 mag has some following and is good for medium size game. I wonder how many antelope have been taken with it?
25-06 will handle most of what the 257 Weatherby does in the same diameter bullet.
I would almost have to say any magnum cartridge under 7mm has little purpose, but we have the 257 Weatherby magnum. The 257 mag has some following and is good for medium size game. I wonder how many antelope have been taken with it?
25-06 will handle most of what the 257 Weatherby does in the same diameter bullet.
Luckily for us in 2020 we have the modern replacement, every bit as good, in fact, better, with a vastly greater selection of bullets and of used affordable factory rifles, and which you can still find in certain current production factory rifles, and which uses a standard magnum bolt face. I'm talking, of course, about the 416 Remington Magnum.
cdb1
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There are substantial numbers of people who feel the .404 Jeffery is the better cartridge. I’ll take a Jeffery any day over a .416 Remington.Luckily for us in 2020 we have the modern replacement, every bit as good, in fact, better, with a vastly greater selection of bullets and of used affordable factory rifles, and which you can still find in certain current production factory rifles, and which uses a standard magnum bolt face. I'm talking, of course, about the 416 Remington Magnum.
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