Best Gun For Dog Attack

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Kleanbore said:

That doesn't make any sense.
How does carrying inside the house enable one to "respond to a threat" outside the house?

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It is simple. If you must respond to a threat or incident outside you house you have to go outside. You have two choices: 1) take a gun.or 2) do not take a gun.
The OP stated that he went out without a gun because he feared going too get his gun would cause a delayed response that might result in worse harm. So i think it ought to be simple to understand that you can more quickly respond armed to a threat or incident outside you house if you are carrying your gun when the need arises. And another thing. If anyone busts through your door into your house are you going to have to get your gun, or are you going to be carring it? I carry mine until it goes on the night table when I retire.

I carry a locking blade knife clipped to the inside of my pocket. The 3" blade should penetrate the skull of just about any size dog. So would most 9mms or 38s but with a lot more noise.

M

Blenderson .........Glad your family and dog are ok...............Machete........Spear.......Large bowie , or Kukri style knife with 12" blade.......DOG GONE........take care.....

George P said:

What are the legal ramifications if you discharge a weapon on your front lawn where you live? If there are some serious ones, perhaps a pepper spray or similar might be the answer.
First would be calling animal control, then an attorney if the dog owner doesn't pay the bills. Personally, Pits, Dobies, Rottweilers and the like I have zero use for and wouldn't lose a wink if they all disappeared.

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My dog was attacked and with both survived thanks to a LE that was nearby. Large dog and the Pepper spray was not worth a Damn. It did finally work but my gosh it took a lot of it and a long time. Told the Cop that It was the one day I did not bring my EDC. If so I would have killed that beast. He agreed 100%. Said he almost shot it as well. And I live in a Suburban neighbor hood. A dog attack is just like a attack on a human, there is no time to call the police and they are life threatening.
I hate any dog that attacks. Hate their owners as well. All these dogs should be put down. I will not post what I think should happen to the owners.

Ernie - I am NOT disagreeing with you.........my girl is 75#, half Ridgeback/half Lab; rescue dog and spoiled so she is VERY protective of me and the wife - hates USPS, Fedex, UPS, lawn mower guys and ANY strangers. Meter readers call me to bring her inside so they can enter the yard...........BUT she is NOT a PIT........our friend's "gentle rescue pit" after two days playing tore her up in front of us - 5-10 seconds tops............two months and $2K later she is alive and back to being frisky and protective..........if pepper spray doesn't work, and a gunshot lands you in jail, then a shovel and a smack on the nose/head is the best bet

M1key said:

I carry a locking blade knife clipped to the inside of my pocket. The 3" blade should penetrate the skull of just about any size dog. So would most 9mms or 38s but with a lot more noise.

M

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Some years ago, a man here carved a mean dog off with a pocket knife.

What of a stout cane or hiking staff/bo?

Related to all of this...

Check out John Corriea's Active Self Protection and ASP Extra's discussion's about shooting a dog in self defense, and his analysis of a couple attacks caught on film.

George P said:

What are the legal ramifications if you discharge a weapon on your front lawn where you live? If there are some serious ones, perhaps a pepper spray or similar might be the answer.
First would be calling animal control, then an attorney if the dog owner doesn't pay the bills. Personally, Pits, Dobies, Rottweilers and the like I have zero use for and wouldn't lose a wink if they all disappeared.

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While I can't agree with your breed-specific comment, I do agree with everything else, so consider this a partial "like"

So much wrong with this thread.

I'm not going to write a novel about all the specifics of defending against a dog and whether or not its justified.

If you do have to defend yourself or another human against a dog a pistol is certainly adequate, most of the time, but there are also other options. Just something to keep in mind.

I would not suggest using lethal force to defend your dog from another dog.

unclenunzie -
I understand and no problem. Over the years I have had Goldens, Elkhounds, ankle-biting terriers, some mixed breeds and now this one. I have watched too many "friendly Pits" get ugly real quick and only for a moment - but those moments can have a serious cost, same for Dobies.....have zero use for them - if they work for you great; no one of those breeds will EVER cross my gate

I have a small Chihuahua mix that loves to go on long walks. He's been attacked by Pitbull's twice, once not so bad, but the second time was serious. I used to carry a small 9x19. Now I carry a Charter Arms Bulldog 2.5" 5 shot 45 Colt on my hip with 255gr bullets when we go for walks. I carry a speed loader with an extra 5 rounds in my pocket too. I figure an aggressive Pitbull won't stand a chance against that round.

Not to be a disagreeable person but in my experience, the most vicious dogs I have encountered are mostly the ankle bitters. So far all the so called Pit bulls have been the "lick you to death type" with one being far more afraid of me then anything...

Dogs free to roam can and will be problematic. I live in the country, thus when I walk, I carry a concealed weapon and a walking stick made from a long handle shovel shaft. Pack behavior is problematic. Dog packs can and will pull down live stock given the opportunity.

Hangingrock said:

Dogs free to roam can and will be problematic. I live in the country, thus when I walk, I carry a concealed weapon and a walking stick made from a long handle shovel shaft. Pack behavior is problematic. Dog packs can and will pull down live stock given the opportunity.

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Living in the country myself, and in a county that has no leash laws, it's basically a excerpt of "dont go to stupid places".

We're lucky to have over an acre of fenced in property for our dog but still itd be nice to take her for a walk on our quiet back road. We dont because we know there are a variety of different dogs that run loose. Our dog is not very dog friendly so what do those two things tell you?

We exercise in our back yard and leave it at that.

Dont play stupid games and the prizes are irrelevant.

Our Basenji was attacked by a Pit Bull that happened to walk into our back yard. He proceeded to thrash him around like a rag doll. I managed to grab him by the collar and slapped him in the side of the head until he let go (yeah I know). Didn't have a knife but if I had a pistol he would have been dead. Animal control took him and put him down. They have zero tolerance as this happens too often around here. Our Basenji survived and we paid the vet bill. The Animal Control officer looked him over after the attack and said he was lucky to survive--most don't.

M

Wow, a Basenji.
There was a movie starring a Basenji and I had a strong yen for a while.

How often do dog packs bring down livestock? I had large stray dogs follow and barking at me before, so I'm getting pepper spray.

Clearly, the Velo-dog.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velo-dog

buck460XVR said:

.....and what happens if next time you are not there? You need to report the attack to the local authorities to document the attack to have the owner warned and to have his insurance pay your vet bill. Documenting the first attack and it's severity will go a long way to help your defense if you need to defend yourself in the future. It will also probably mean the dog will be gone anyway after the next time.

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I agree, as i see two issues, here:

1. Folks who leave their dog to roam the planet, unescorted. This type of irresponsibility, in canine ownership, needs to be addressed.
2. Mean dogs get their first (documented) attack "free". Once you DOCUMENT this vicious dog attack, and it's an established fact, this dog is a biter,
upon the next incident, the dog will be put down, due to the owner's inability to control their animal.

Of course, the dog's owner should be saddled with all medical expenses, as well as their quality time, with law enforcement, over this littler encounter..

Having trained dogs in the military for a few years and keeping large dogs (Rottweilers, Shepard's) in my house since I have learned a few things.
Someone mentioned a stun device. I have one of these https://www.amazon.com/STREET-WISE-SECURITY-PRODUCTS-Streetwise/dp/B084RCFDJ3/ref=sr_1_25?crid=218HNGB4XQHFA&dchild=1&keywords=stun+baton+for+dog+attacks&qid=1590644675&sprefix=stun+baton,aps,207&sr=8-25

This item will make a dog, any dog (or human), have a come to Jesus moment. Apply to the anus, testicles or back of the dog's head for immediate compliance. LEO's that carry a taser call this a drive or dry stun. Livestock hotshot's also work but are a little more expensive and potent.

Another trick is when the dogs are locked up, say one has a good bite on the snout of another, pull the back legs of the aggressor dog. The aggressor dog will immediately release but be warned it may turn on you. A good size ten in the ear will stop that.

I do not abuse animals. What I relate above should only be used when absolutely necessary to protect other animals or humans. Some dogs, especially feral dogs or ones raised by idiots, have aggressive dispositions and must be dealt with accordingly. That being said a firearm may be your only option. Preferably small caliber but shot placement is, as always, what counts.

I am aware of a neighborhood dog attack that involved a police report, a guilty plea to a citation, large medical bills, a lawsuit, a settlement and the victim now carrying a 9mm on his property all of the time. To this day, the dog owner thinks that it was OK for his animal to wander the neighborhood - that he did nothing wrong - that all of the legal proceedings were skewed against him - that he was the victim. However the police, the lawyers, the court and the insurance company disagreed with the dog owner - some dog owners are just plain stupid. The neighborhood victim continues to carry his 9mm anticipating the dog’s return - he is hopeful that the dog does not return but knowing the neighbor as I do, he will defend himself against another dog attack.

My hunting/constant companion dog is the sweetest Dobe you're ever gonna find. I hear ya on dog attacks and sorry for your son.

But,if she came after you,good luck. I'm saying this not about Coco,but as a Dobe owner,and more importantly,an "understander". Their adrenaline,strength,and intelligence makes them especially dangerous. I'd say a 12g with buckshot would be the stopper. A handgun and you would have to be a really good shot and better be in a magnum loading which is gonna be tough to control. A bat? Would probably make the situation worse. Pepper spray? Maybe if you got a direct hit but,like a handgun.... you better be a good shot.

I'm not saying this as some puffed up Dobe owner, "my dog is so bada$$". Just some data points. I'm 5'10 and she can EASILY grab my throat. Also,am 200#'s and she can knock me down. She was the "runt" of the litter @80#.

Smartest dog I've ever been around,which is another aspect in the conversation.

whm1974 said:

Not to be a disagreeable person but in my experience, the most vicious dogs I have encountered are mostly the ankle bitters. So far all the so called Pit bulls have been the "lick you to death type" with one being far more afraid of me then anything...

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This is the argument I hear a lot from Pit and Rottie owners, but if you peel it back, it’s really kind of a dumb one. Yes, the ankle biters can be aggressive and bite....maybe more than the larger breeds. But the difference is that they don’t kill people.

Ive read a lot of accounts where the Rots and Pits seriously hurt or kill kids, adults, and other dogs. Never heard of a Chihuahua or a Poodle killing anyone.