S&W Mdl 27 Classic

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Mr. Mosin

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This is not a "motivation to purchase" post or anything like that, this is a post of curiosity.

I've watched a few videos of the S&W Mdl 27 Classic, and all of em have fussed about the rear sight screw being directly over the cylinder gap and causing excessive flame cutting and the cylinder to burn. I know the flame cutting will eventually stop, but the cylinder burning... is this superficial and merely cosmetic, or is it structurally damaging to the cylinder ? Also, does any of the other "Classic" lineup suffer from this ? Mdl 19, 25, 29, etc ?

*Please.... for the love of all that's holy, avoid bashing new production S&W. It is what it is. If that's unpleasant to you, hunt down an old production piece.*
 
That screw is in the same spot on ALL adjustable sighted Smith's. It's a complete non-issue.

As far as burning the cylinder, the only thing I can think of as to what they'd mean is a little splotch of carbon. It wipes right off. Another non-issue.
 
labnoti said:
It's cosmetic, and so is most of the value of a Model 27 "Classic."
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Yes, yes; we know. "Dey don' make em lack dey use ta !!!". I've heard this before. If anything, they're made a bit better.
 
This discoloration ?
 

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Well, not to put too fine of a point on it, yes.
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Ok. For reference, I watched a YouTube video by "The Yankee Marshall" and another YouTube channel by someone. Both presented this issue as a major, life threatening issue.
 
It just *looks* different on a blued finish ? Do *all* frame sizes do this, or just the N frames ?
 
I've seen it on all Smith revolvers and it has nothing to do with the sight screw.

As for "The Yankee Marshall", I watched two or three minutes of one of his videos and were I you I would not go to him for any advice...about anything, let alone firearms.

Dave
 
Dave T said:
I've seen it on all Smith revolvers and it has nothing to do with the sight screw.

As for "The Yankee Marshall", I watched two or three minutes of one of his videos and were I you I would not go to him for any advice...about anything, let alone firearms.

Dave
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His video was one of the first that popped up when I searched "S&W 27 Classic review". I agree. He is.... out there.

Anyways, every S&W does it. Cool. How does a Mdl 27 carry on the belt vs something like a Mdl 19 ?
 
Mr. Mosin said:
His video was one of the first that popped up when I searched "S&W 27 Classic review". I agree. He is.... out there.

Anyways, every S&W does it. Cool. How does a Mdl 27 carry on the belt vs something like a Mdl 19 ?
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Like a brick.

The 27 is the Cadillac of 357 (is the 28 the Buick?). Guess that would make the 19 more of the Mustang. The Scandium and Titanium J frame the crotch rocket of 357's.
 
gotboostvr said:
Like a brick.

The 27 is the Cadillac of 357 (is the 28 the Buick?). Guess that would make the 19 more of the Mustang. The Scandium and Titanium J frame the crotch rocket of 357's.
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The M27 is Smith's challenger to the Colt Python ? For a steady diet .357's, the 27 is better; but for carry, the 19 is better ?
 
Mr. Mosin said:
Ok. For reference, I watched a YouTube video by "The Yankee Marshall" and another YouTube channel by someone. Both presented this issue as a major, life threatening issue.
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Haven't see those videos, but as I understand what most folks are complaining about, it's just carbon fouling and takes a little scrubbing to get off. Sometimes it takes elbow grease. I have seen a lot of revolver newbies get really concerned when it takes effort to clean the cylinder.
 
Mr. Mosin said:
but the cylinder burning... is this superficial and merely cosmetic,
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As others have said the carbon smudge on the cylinder is cosmetic and can be cleaned off. With a blued gun, do not use an aggressive cloth, scotch brite or such, you will rapidly wear away the blueing. Use a soft cloth and a gun cleaner like Hoppes or something similar. It can take a while and frequent applications of fresh gun cleaner to get the build up remove if you have not kept up with it but you will not damage the blueing.

One can be a bit more aggressive cleaning the cylinder of stainless guns.
 
Mr. Mosin,
My model 327 gets that carbon build up. It’s no biggie. Actually it comes off easily if once you clean the gun wipe the cylinder with a silicone cloth. When you clean the gun again you can almost remove the carbon with the same cloth.
If the buildup gets stubborn, soaking the cylinder for a day in Break Free really helps.

Dave T said:
I've seen it on all Smith revolvers and it has nothing to do with the sight screw.

As for "The Yankee Marshall", I watched two or three minutes of one of his videos and were I you I would not go to him for any advice...about anything, let alone firearms.

Dave
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I totally agree...on both issues. That dude is a pinhead. I watched his video on the Ruger Redhawk 8 shot .357 versus the S&W 627. What a maroon! I have only seen a couple of his videos. I will never get those minutes back.
 
Yankee Marshall is one that confuses me on how he has become successful as a YouTube personality. The guy is a flat out idiot.

flame cutting is a bit of an issue for me and even though it’s normal, it indicates lazy design to me. A really good engineer and the company he works for would have done something to fix that issue... opening up the window or something... but it is self limiting and has proven to be a non-issue for a long time. The burnt powder on the face of the cylinder is just normal revolver stuff, happens with every model in every caliber from every maker.
 
WestKentucky said:
Yankee Marshall is one that confuses me on how he has become successful as a YouTube personality. The guy is a flat out idiot.

flame cutting is a bit of an issue for me and even though it’s normal, it indicates lazy design to me. A really good engineer and the company he works for would have done something to fix that issue... opening up the window or something... but it is self limiting and has proven to be a non-issue for a long time. The burnt powder on the face of the cylinder is just normal revolver stuff, happens with every model in every caliber from every maker.
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Self limiting.... as in, one it gets to a certain point of wear, it no longer is damaging the frame ?
 
Dave T said:
I've seen it on all Smith revolvers and it has nothing to do with the sight screw.

As for "The Yankee Marshall", I watched two or three minutes of one of his videos and were I you I would not go to him for any advice...about anything, let alone firearms.

Dave
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What causes the issue then ? Bore me with the dull details. I wanna know.
 
Mr. Mosin said:
What causes the issue then ? Bore me with the dull details. I wanna know.
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There is a gap between the barrel and cylinder. A few thousandths of an inch. Once the bullet passes through the gap then high pressure gas is released, but along with that gas is particulates in the form of powder that is not yet burnt. Under extreme pressure it works like a itty bitty sand blaster.
 
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