Will you help a new gun owner or reloader that is caught short?

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My neighbor supplies me with his fired brass and bullets. I reload it for him at the cost of powder and primers. (I made him buy his own bullets.) I don't consider this "manufacturing ammunition" as the ATF calls it.
If I had taken MY bullets, brass, powder, and primers and reloaded ammo for him at any cost this would be considered to be manufacturing,
This symbiotic relationship works for us and he is never going to complain to the ATF about it. :)
 
I've allowed every new shooter whom I have introduced to shooting to shoot for free on my dime. That won't change this time around unless my supplies get really, really low. My friends who are experienced shooters, on the other hand, learned from the previous run on ammunition and bought extra when it was available.

In general, though, I've almost never regretted doing a favor for someone. People find a way to return it, even if it isn't immediately or isn't the same favor that you did. That's just my outlook on life in general, though. :D
 
If someone wants to start fishing will you let them take your boat and tackle?
I will take you and supply everything. Same goes for range sessions. Learning to reload goes the same. I'll supply everything and show you.
 
Bfh_auto said:
If someone wants to start fishing will you let them take your boat and tackle?
I will take you and supply everything. Same goes for range sessions. Learning to reload goes the same. I'll supply everything and show you.
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No but I will take them out in my boat and let them use my tackle.I will take a new shooter to the range and let them shoot my guns and ammunition. Both merely as an introduction to fishing and the shooting sports. Just can't quite see handing a boat or gun to someone who is learning. :) My granddaughter is 16 and just got her drivers license. My wife and I paid for the driver's education course. She loves my bike and taking rides with me. We will pay for her to take the Motorcycle Ohio course to get her motor cycle endorsement on her license. She also enjoys shooting and is welcome to learn from me anything she wants. I guess being a good mentor is not limited to just shooting.

Ron
 
My gunshow bud got a box of 30.06 and 550 rds Fed .22lr. A/C guy got a 550 rd box .22lr. One other guy got a box 9mm ball and a box .38 spl. I'm not parting with any more until I see which way "middle November" (only 100 days) wind blows. Joe
 
Heck, I even keep old ones going. Some guys and gals get caught in a panic short and I have “loaned” components to them, no money, just replace with new stock once the most recent panic passes.

It is also true that people that never thought they wanted a firearm, then suddenly, when they become scarce and in demand, they want one of everything. I generally take them out shooting my equipment and ammunition to get them good and hooked.
 
FROGO207 said:
. . . selling reloads without a license is illegal . . .
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No, it's not. Manufacturing for sale without a license is illegal.

But, to the question: it depends. A new owner caught by the upswing in demand: yes.

A long time shooter I've been chiding for years because the idiot kept buying a single year's worth of supplies and making ignorant comments about hoarders: no, go pound sand.

Call me an evil hoarder; I noticed decades ago that the arms market swings wildly, and decided to buy the low spots and keep a multi-year supply on hand. I suppose buying the market low is hoarding stocks too eh?

mjsdwash said:
. . But, much like the people I told about the $350 AR's, they would rather pay 20$/box for 9mm when they "just have to have it", than 8$/box when its available.
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You said it!
 
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I make the same offer anytime. "I will help you buy equipment, set it up, and stick with you until we're both comfortable you know what your doing, and I will help you find what you need. If you cant find what you need, I will lend you something" few takers so far, but those who have and become very enthusiastic, and taken a real interest in the sport, and the politics involved.
I really hate telling people that I won't give them loaded ammo, but I tell them the reason every time:
" If it blows up, you'll sue me. Even if you don't want to, a lawyer will convince you your not suing s me, but my insurer. Even if a lawyer can't convince you, your health insurance company that payed your surgeries won't mind suing me. I don't have to be the one who screwed up, I just have to have the least amount to spend in court of all parties involved."
I have seen new guns with excessive headspace. i would not want to shoot a standard pressure load in that gun, with brass that had been used 7 times already.
I haven't had a box of factory ammo (other than 12ga and Rimfire) in 5 years, so not much to give away.
I always finish by telling people who don't take me up on the reloading offer, that I will inform them whenever a good deal on bulk ammo comes up. But, much like the people I told about the $350 AR's, they would rather pay 20$/box for 9mm when they "just have to have it", than 8$/box when its available.
 
JMO, a person who buys what they want, and will use in the lifetime of the component is not a hoarder. A person who see's something on a shelf and buys it in a panic without even knowing its purpose is. A person can buy themselves 40lb of rifle power and be perfectly reasonable, but another may buy all the T7 a store has, maybe 2 cans, with no interest in muzzloaders at all. That guy is what ruins it.
Hoarding is a mentality, as much as anything. I can near guarantee 80% of the powder sold in the 4 years of the 2012 panic is sitting unused. It will likely never be used. 1/2 the 22lr sitting in damp basements will be near worthless from age when the hoarder remembers he camped out at Walmart everyday for 6 months wayyyyy back in 2014.
At least the primers and bullets will probably hold up for yard sales sometime around year 2030-2050. I know a guy who cruises for just such things from the 60's-90's panics. He makes out well.
I mention this because hoard reference has come up a few times. I think most people have similar feelings.
 
I’ve regretted helping people several times. I’m the last panic when ARs were hard to come by I sold really nice ones to two different friends who didn’t have one at pre ban prices. Both sold them quickly and made hefty profit.
 
Archer said:
I've been providing free instruction and one box of ammo to every new shooter of good character who comes to me for guidance. No one gets out without being able to recite the Four Rules verbatim, and understanding the safe manipulation of their newly acquired hardware. In addition to that I emphasize the principles of marksmanship, and they get a good grounding on the subject of mindset.

In the past month I've done this for three couples and several individuals. All have gone on to take the state mandated CCW classes.

I figure it's my civic duty to do all I can to get new people off to a proper start. If just a few of us did something like this, we would certainly have a larger circle of new, responsible 2A advocates. The pebble in the still pond sends ripples widely.
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An older friend who is not really into guns called me about a week ago wanting to know if I knew of any place selling 380 ammo. His only gun is a cheap Bryco 380. I have a KelTec 380, and about 200 rounds for it. That is a lifetime supply for me with that gun. I was going to give him 50 rounds, but found a store in town that still had some in stock. I bought it and took it to him. Had they been out of stock I'd have given some of mine to him
 
I know people who hunt, but aren't "into" guns. A .22 and a shotgun of some sort, kill a few squirrels and rabbits, try to kill a deer. A hundred rounds for each gun may last them 5 years, so they don't understand why they can't find ammo or why it's so high. I do try to give them a heads up if it looks like it's gonna get bad.
mjsdwash said:
I make the same offer anytime. "I will help you buy equipment
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Man, can I sign up? I'm really contemplating a progressive loader but would be waaaay cheaper with someone else's money :)
 
Is this even a question? ;)

Of course I would, assuming I have a surplus of what is needed.

If anyone I know or meet is coming to the sport and wants to initiate with a .22 caliber, I'll contribute. I also have enough that I could spare a box or two of .380 or 9mm Luger. Other calibers I have I could afford to contribute enough to load a defense gun.
 
You gotta be like Warren Buffet (a great stock investor) when buying ammo, guns, and reloading supplies: buy when nobody else wants 'em.

I've done enough stock investing to get excited when stock prices fall through the floor because I get to buy good companies on the cheap.

Quelling our emotional responses to shortages and high prices is the key to avoiding panic buying at market tops. Like this one.
 
I'm somewhere in the middle. I will help a new reloader and supply the components to teach them the skills, but I dont have a big supply. I would help a woman reload enough to fill her sd weapon, because I have no factory ammunition. I will go a long way to help but I'm not a store, and my supplies are for father son time.
 
AJC1 said:
I'm somewhere in the middle. I will help a new reloader and supply the components to teach them the skills, but I dont have a big supply. I would help a woman reload enough to fill her sd weapon, because I have no factory ammunition. I will go a long way to help but I'm not a store, and my supplies are for father son time.
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Many of us are like you. Somewhere in the middle. Our ammunition, reloading components, and money is limited. I get it. We can't help everyone who cross our path or asks for help. But if we can help someone be a better firearm owner by showing them how to reload or shoot accurately by giving a box of ammo, then its worth it.

I admit not everyone who asks for help has good intentions. Some will even take advantage of our generosity and try to make a buck off of us. All i can say is try to avoid these people. But think about this. If all of us can help one person, we've done good.
 
Reloadron said:
No but I will take them out in my boat and let them use my tackle.I will take a new shooter to the range and let them shoot my guns and ammunition. Both merely as an introduction to fishing and the shooting sports. Just can't quite see handing a boat or gun to someone who is learning. :) My granddaughter is 16 and just got her drivers license. My wife and I paid for the driver's education course. She loves my bike and taking rides with me. We will pay for her to take the Motorcycle Ohio course to get her motor cycle endorsement on her license. She also enjoys shooting and is welcome to learn from me anything she wants. I guess being a good mentor is not limited to just shooting.

Ron
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That's the point I was trying to make. We need to be good stewards.
Prepare yourself. Then help your family. Then help your neighbors.
This goes for all things in life.
 
Howland937 said:
I know people who hunt, but aren't "into" guns. A .22 and a shotgun of some sort, kill a few squirrels and rabbits, try to kill a deer. A hundred rounds for each gun may last them 5 years, so they don't understand why they can't find ammo or why it's so high. I do try to give them a heads up if it looks like it's gonna get bad.

Man, can I sign up? I'm really contemplating a progressive loader but would be waaaay cheaper with someone else's money :)
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well.... I'll offer you your first 25c toward it? In reality though, I do offer to provide someone with the means of their first box or a few boxes, assuming I load the same calibers, sort of a toast to a major change. I usually recommend the equipment, and most are more comfortable buying the supplies retail. Its not for everyone, and it sucks to be stuck with 300$ worth of powders, primers and bullets. So a little down pament. Mayne i need a "new members only" disclaimer:)
 
This is one of those , it depends .

It depends if it’s friends or family , yes in a heart beat . Loaned my buddy 1k primers just last month .

It depends if I’m at the range and they just need a few ( box or less ) sure why not

It depends if total stranger which would be pretty random , no not likely unless it at the range . Hell I think I asked for some ammo at the range once from a stanger . I give and take ammo from friends all the time at the range .

I’m a helpy helperson which means I pretty much help anyone out in general , it just seems to be in my nature I guess . I think over the years my reputation is just that and get asked often . Although I rarely ask for anything in return it usually pays off at some point in the future . If not I don’t say anything but it is remembered and I can be a little less helpfull as well
 
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