Wanna bet they're gold dots?Got a case of these. 55 grain FederalView attachment 937187
Winchester ammo has been disappointing me since the 90s. I kept buying it off and on when a deal was just too good to pass up, only to get screwed again.
I’ve used Remington CoreLokt more than any ammunition by a big margin. I’ve never had issues with Winchester centerfire ammunition. I believe your experiences are anomalies that just happen sometime. I know a guy who’s a serious hunter and has been to Africa several times. He won’t buy Burris scopes because he’s had three bought new and all failed. I can’t blame him, I’d do the same. And if I’d had the same experience as you two I wouldn’t use Winchester ammunition or CoreLokt.Since we're talking about ammunition issues, I've had lots of Remington core-lokt duds.
Since we're talking about ammunition issues, I've had lots of Remington core-lokt duds. Mainly .308 Winchester 150 grain, but also 170 grain 30-30.
The .308 was in my Savage Axis XP1, it shot Winchester, Federal, and PPU with no problems.It's odd for modern ammunition to have actual duds. Were they all in the same rifle?
I've shot multiple cases of Yugo M67 surplus dating back to the early 70's with only about ~3 duds in the 4 or 5 cases I've shot.
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I tried Federal Blue Box in my .243 and it was around three MOA.The 30WCF was in my Marlin 336w, it shoots Winchester with no problem.
I believe I'm starting to over think self defense load/cartridge selection. I imagine there'd be no difference between 10-15 rounds of M855 or Hornady V-max into the chest of an attacker at 5 yards. I imagine 10+ rounds of any intermediate rifle cartridge would equally turn lungs and such into soup.
I believe I'm starting to over think self defense load/cartridge selection. I imagine there'd be no difference between 10-15 rounds of M855 or Hornady V-max into the chest of an attacker at 5 yards. I imagine 10+ rounds of any intermediate rifle cartridge would equally turn lungs and such into soup.
M855 is about the last thing I want to use unless I'm shooting through a windshield or similiar barrier. Odds are really really long I'll ever have to fire on somebody, even longer still that I'll have to penetrate a barrier to "defend" myself. I keep some stocked because I got some in a trade once but I would take M193 over M855 any day and twice on Sunday. Just saying.I believe I'm starting to over think self defense load/cartridge selection. I imagine there'd be no difference between 10-15 rounds of M855 or Hornady V-max into the chest of an attacker at 5 yards. I imagine 10+ rounds of any intermediate rifle cartridge would equally turn lungs and such into soup.
As far as I know, they use M193, in addition I think green tipped M855 is getting phased out and being replaced with the newer A1 version with the tungsten (possibly) tip? Maybe tin/bismuth, I'm not really sure maybe somebody coming back from a recent deployment can tell us what is being used. I've wondered in which cases were M193/M855 issued. Is it M193 for standard M4 and M855 for the Saw gunner? If someone knows speak up. Generally speaking I pretty sure M193 is the standard issue round.If I'm not mistaken, isn't the US military still using M855 ?
I wonder how come M193 55gr ball isnt on the chart.... not to keep repeating myself but it's a nasty round.... some folks here have me considering stocking up on some V-Max ammo though. Looks quite effective. I have some 62gr Fusion soft points. I wonder how they would do for SD. They were recommended to me for white tail....This is pretty interestingView attachment 937763 View attachment 937764
As far as I know, they use M193, in addition I think green tipped M855 is getting phased out and being replaced with the newer A1 version with the tungsten (possibly) tip? Maybe tin/bismuth, I'm not really sure maybe somebody coming back from a recent deployment can tell us what is being used. I've wondered in which cases were M193/M855 issued. Is it M193 for standard M4 and M855 for the Saw gunner? If someone knows speak up. Generally speaking I pretty sure M193 is the standard issue round.
I did not know that. That's surprising because the M855A1 and Mk262 are very expensive....As far as I know, M193 has not been in use by the US armed forces for many years, and M855 has been either completely phased out or nearly so. The three 5.56 rounds I'm aware of in current use are 62gr M855A1, 62gr Mk318 and 77gr Mk262, that last one using the Sierra Matchking (SMK) OTM bullet. It may have since been replaced by the newer Tipped Matchking (TMK) bullet of the same weight.
M193 and M855 may still be used for training purposes and/or Reserve/Guard issue, and I suspect that other nations' militaries who use 5.56 NATO may still issue them.