CZ-527 scope options? I don't want to buy it twice...

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cdb1 said:
Am I just having a bad day, or a brain fart? What purpose is served by a 1x scope?

Plus, I’m not trying to pick on you Dave.
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I'm betting it's easier to line up the sights on target since the target is in the same focal plane as the crosshairs. Probably pretty nice in a short range hunting situation with aging eyes.
 
Fair question cmb1 -- absolutely no offense taken.

DairyVet said:
I'm betting it's easier to line up the sights on target since the target is in the same focal plane as the crosshairs. Probably pretty nice in a short range hunting situation with aging eyes.
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What he just said -- it beats having to use the shooting glasses in my avatar in order to see both the sights and target clearly.

Also, and I have no hard data on this, I find the image through even a 1x scope with a 20mm objective a bit brighter than with my set of MkI eyeballs. Maybe it's just my imagination or maybe it's something to do the multi-coated lenses.

Whether you can live with just 1x for your intended purposes when you have other choices is another matter entirely -- lack of popularity is probably why these are on sale. A 1x scope would have been a vast improvement over irons in our great-grandparents, but today 1-4x variables have understandably more appeal.

Low-to-non-magnified optics were and still are a big deal in the military sphere, BTW. It started with things like the WWI Zeiss Bifocal sight, the 1x scope on the EM-2 bullpup, Nydar reflex shotgun sight and Geman ZF-41 1.5x and gradually morphed into today's red dot sights. Check out the conclusions at the end of this video:

 
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Got it. I figured the reason was one sighting plane instead of two with irons but I wasn’t quite sure. I get confused easily, it threw me for a huge loop when they switched Darren’s on Bewitched.
 
As a data point;

My old 527's bolt won't clear the ocular on anything mounted low(yes I know there's a replacement available),so instead of mounting a 1-4X20 which would be entirely adequate...... it's got a 3-10X50. That's how big the objective can be with this factory bolt handle.

Further,the rings are factory and handle barely clears with the above scope. But,the factory irons are SO nice/fun on this 223 that more often than not,there's NO glass on top.
 
*** guys the rings I bought came in today and they were were too big for the rifle. :cuss:

Lol I explicitly said I did not want to buy this twice.
 
When you wrote that you ordered Warne 1" Medium Rings, the correct models for the CZ 527 16mm base dovetail should be one of these two:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/warne-1-pa-cz-527-16mm-dovetail-medium-riflescope-rings.html

https://www.opticsplanet.com/warne-rifle-scope-1-quick-detach-cz-527-16mm-medium-rings.html

Did your rings come in package marked with either of these designations? If not, an exchange is in order -- Warne makes rings for several other base types, and even their own website can be confusing. (Man, their QD's have gotten pricey!)

If the retailer gives you grief, I have two spare sets of CZ 527 rings you're welcome to pick from -- PM me for details.
 
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Dave DeLaurant said:
When you wrote that you ordered Warne 1" Medium Rings, the correct models for the CZ 19mm base dovetail would be either their 14BM or 1B1LM. Is that what your package is marked? If not, an exchange is in order -- Warne makes rings for several other base types.
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Dave, I thought the 527 was a 16mm base and the 550 was 19mm. Am I incorrect?
 
adcoch1 said:
Dave, I thought the 527 was a 16mm base and the 550 was 19mm. Am I incorrect?
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Nope, you are correct and I was wrong -- I even went and checked with a metric caliper to make sure and then corrected my reply to match. Thanks for spotting my error before it led to even more confusion!
 
Dave DeLaurant said:
When you wrote that you ordered Warne 1" Medium Rings, the correct models for the CZ 527 16mm base dovetail should be one of these two:

https://www.opticsplanet.com/warne-1-pa-cz-527-16mm-dovetail-medium-riflescope-rings.html

https://www.opticsplanet.com/warne-rifle-scope-1-quick-detach-cz-527-16mm-medium-rings.html

Did your rings come in package marked with either of these designations? If not, an exchange is in order -- Warne makes rings for several other base types, and even their own website can be confusing.

If the retailer gives you grief, I think (I'll need to check) I have a spare set of CZ 527 rings you can have -- PM me for details.
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Warne will swap the rings themselves from what I've read.
 
I have 2 CZs in 7.62x39 and 1 in 6.5 Grendel because of eye problems standard rings don't give enough eye relief I found that the picatiny rail mount works best for me. 3 to 9 power on the 7.62s and a 4 to18 Athlon on the 6.5
 
i have put several scopes on my cz527. I settled on a 1.5-4.5 Bushnell that works really well. I use the Warne QD rings. Personally i think they are overpriced but they work well. I have 2 other 527's both Lux model in 22Hornet and 223. I use 2-8 diamondback on both of them and it is a good size. I had it on the 762x39 and i liked it on that as well. Since all mine have iron sights I have taken off the scopes and reattached them and the CZ factory rings still hold zero.
Just a weird tidbit I though I would share
 
Old thread I know, but I went through about 3 low-power fixed iterations on my 527 for the 7.62 and I finally came to the realization that nice little primary arms advanced red dot seemed to be the best fit for me. It's one of the most fun, if not the funnest rifle of mine to shoot. With this I can shoot both eyes open accurately and quickly out to 200 yds offhand and I can repeatedly hit a 10" steel plate benched at 300.
 

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Old thread I know, but I went through about 3 low-power fixed iterations on my 527 for the 7.62 and I finally came to the realization that nice little primary arms advanced red dot seemed to be the best fit for me. It's one of the most fun, if not the funnest rifle of mine to shoot. With this I can shoot both eyes open accurately and quickly out to 200 yds offhand and I can repeatedly hit a 10" steel plate benched at 300.
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I was about to opine that this rig looked a little wild for my tastes, then remembered what I did to my 300 AAC 527 :uhoh:

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Tortuga said:
The Question:

1. What size rings should I get? I keep hearing Warne medium, but there's different sizes of that (Warne medium 1 inch / Warne medium 30mm).

2. Does the scope have to match the rings? Will the scope have information about what size rings it will fit?

3. What magnification should I be looking for at 7.62x39mm range? It looks like that bullet experience significant drop at about 200 meters, and I probably wouldn't take a shot beyond that.

4. How do I know if a scope is going to be good? Maybe this is a stupid question but, if the range doesn't have to be that far, I don't see a problem with getting a $50 scope with minimal magnification. It's just suspiciously cheap.
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1. Buy the scope first and then the rings. I used Warne mediums with great success. My scope has a 40mm objective. Bigger than that and you need higher rings. It is my understanding that newer CZ's have a bolt design that clear better but I have no first-hand experience.

2. The rings have to match the scope. If it is a one inch tube then get the one inch rings. Note my comment above. Buy the scope first. Pick the magnification and reticle you like.

3. I would recommend the 3x9. I used a 3.5 x 10 (Leupold) because I already had one. 2x7 is also good. Depends in part what you are going to use it for.

4. Don't buy a cheap scope. it degrades your whole rifle. Go with a good brand name and read the reviews. Plan on paying at LEAST $150 (that's still considered inexpensive). Everybody has their preferred brands - kind of the "Ford vs. Chevy" things.
 
I believe the magnification should match what you plan on doing with the rifle. Even with cheap steel ammo, that CZ 527 is pretty darn accurate and if you choose to go shoot prairie dogs out to 300 yards, you probably would have a lot of fun shooting with it. But a 1-4/6 may not give you the vision you’d like.

Your vision and preference should dictate magnification.

Good luck!
 
I recently put the 2-7 vx-freedom leupold I got from loonwulf on and like it, scope looks bigger in the picture for some reason. The leupold is pretty light so even tho it's not the size of a lpvo or fixed power the scope feels nice. The rings are the Burris if I remember right they could be much lower but the height is fine. I found out the qd wing nuts from Talley fit these, last year I checked and poi was about 1 moa. These nuts are $15 from Talley so you could save a few bucks over other qd rings.

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Have the Carbine version. No rings included. 16mm bases, so the options for rings are limited. (I got mine a year or more ago, so things may have loosened up.) Warne rings (medium height, as I recall) and a Leupold FX II scope 2.5x. I rather think the 7.62x39mm round is about a 200 yard limit cartridge and rifle.

The Tula 154 grain bullet clocks about 2150 fps from my example and groups quite well for game use. Probably not the ultimate 1,000 yard target rifle.
 
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