Dogs

BWS · Oct 7, 2020

Dang,my Coco could be eating a Tbone,if you even think about picking up a gun she starts doing a happy dance. Loves guns,it means we're going varmint chasing. She'd rather fight Ghogs and Canada's to the death than eat..... firearms is one of those triggers.

She has some verbal commands,still trying to get her to jump up on some buddy's car hoods. With her uncut nails she can keep MAACO in business. So far she just scratches up their doors..... one of these days,they're gonna pull up and Coke is gonna jump up on the hood and stare at them through the windshield.

H&R Glock · Oct 7, 2020

DOG STORY #1
Fritz, passed away about 20 years ago. He was our third dachshund. Dachshunds are stubborn, but we love them. We had a large field next to our house where Fritz took his walks. The field also bordered on the frozen custard drive in. Fritz was having a good time romping and smelling everything when he stopped dead in his tracks. He was pointing to a slightly damp ten dollar bill laying on the ground. No matter how much I searched the area, no further cash could be found. The next day my wife offered to walk him.

DukeConnor · Oct 7, 2020

I had a Rottweiler, that if you broke into my house, she would just be happy to see you.

People were afraid of that dog until they met her. She thought she was a lap dog.

If a squirrel or cat tried to break in it would have been game on.

whughett · Oct 7, 2020

Kleanbore said:
A Dog to Protect Property?

Her's something that happened fifty years ago next month.

My wife and I were on our honeymoon in Kentucky.

We asked a waitress in Louisville where we might see some horses. She gave us a few tips, but warned us that security would be tight and we would likely not get in. Guard dogs, armed security, gates....

We found a big farm and drove up the long entrance dive.

Nothing going on. No one around.

Except for the dog.

The dog came out of a barn and came to the fence, wagging his tail. He let us pet him.

Then he ran into the barn and....

...he came out with a race horse!

He ran the horse around a bit for us. Not too strenuously, though. No over heating

He put the horse bak in the barn and came out to spend some time with us.

I wish I had not lost the roll of film.

Must have been in Lexington KY.

old lady new shooter · Oct 7, 2020

Kleanbore said:
More on Dogs in Kentucky

On our honeymoon, we stayed in a cabin in General Buttler State Park.

The tobacco auctions wer over, and we were in the only occupied cabin in sight.

We had a fireplace, and the head ranger lent me hi personal axe and told me where to get wood.

The switchboard shut down at 1:00 AM.

At my bride's insistence, I had not brought a firearm. NEVER AGAIN!

It got very cold at night.

Late one night, were awakened by feet in the leaves under the bathroom window.

I stayed up with the axe until the noise stopped.

I went out early the next morning.

There was a pile of big dogs under in the leaves under the bathroom window. The space heater was located there, and they were using its heat to stay warm.

BIG dogs. I was worried. But they turned out to be very friendly.

Back to the Present, Here at Home

Our sheltie barks a the mail man, the UPS truck, and FEDEX.

She barks whenever the cell phone makes a sound like the motion sensor alarm.

She barks at the kids on the trampoline next door.

She used to bark at the trash trucks on Monday, but no more.

At night she'll bark if she needs to go out, but other than that---I need to rely on electronics and on the German Shepherd across the street at night.

She seems to think that protecting the home at night is my job.

I inherited the family sheltie when my parents passed. He was very sweet but definitely not a watchdog. Presumably herding imaginary sheep he would run back and forth in the exact same path all day long, actually wore the grass down to dirt there. That house had a pool (never again!) and he also liked to follow the pool man around... one day he missed a corner and fell in -- revealing that his actual size was a tiny fraction of what he looked like with his fur LOL. My cousin who ran a cat shelter (where she lived on the premises) fell in love with him and begged me to give him to her until I finally acquiesced. He lived out his old age there, eating the same food she cooked for the cats three times a day. Interesting that he got along great with the cats, of which there were about 60.

old lady new shooter · Oct 7, 2020

H&R Glock said:
DOG STORY #1
Fritz, passed away about 20 years ago. He was our third dachshund. Dachshunds are stubborn, but we love them. We had a large field next to our house where Fritz took his walks. The field also bordered on the frozen custard drive in. Fritz was having a good time romping and smelling everything when he stopped dead in his tracks. He was pointing to a slightly damp ten dollar bill laying on the ground. No matter how much I searched the area, no further cash could be found. The next day my wife offered to walk him.

The dachshund is like the Bavarian national dog. They are known for doing whatever they want. When a child misbehaves they say (translated) "He obeys approximately like a dachshund." (It's a lot better in the original.)

emartin · Oct 7, 2020

Meeks36 said:
I live 20 minutes from downtown atlanta. So yeah. Thought about training our new dog to only eat what we give him/her. Current dog will eat any and everything he can get.

Feed him only in a designated bowl, Period. Get a cheap fence charger, hide the wire, stick it in the meat, place in different parts of the yard.It will learn not to touch foreign meat. Dont let the dog see you messing with the meat. Step on it so it has good contact with the ground or it will hiss and crackle. Will hurt when he grabs it, but better than dying a slow poisonous death.Red pepper and such is worthless. Get someone who never comes over, put on a rubber glove and have them try to give it to him. Even if he doesnt take it he wont forget someone trying to get him to take. Hope that helps. I used to train security dogs.

Kleanbore · Oct 7, 2020

whughett said:
Must have been in Lexington KY

Yes

JTHunter · Oct 8, 2020

Trunk Monkey said:
When I lived in a house I caught my neighbor throwing rotten meat over our fence to our dogs just because she was fruitier than a nut cake.

Trunk - for 30 years (1980-2010), I had an assortment of dogs. Three were GSHs and registered and the first two were taken out of a locked kennel in my back yard in broad daylight. At the time, I had an "ARF" (animal rights freak) living next door with as many as 18 dogs and cats in a 14' x 60' mobile home. She thought we would be friends as I had dogs too - until she found out I hunted. Because of certain comments she made after each of these two dogs were taken (10/92 & 1/93), I always suspected that she had a hand in their disappearance. :scrutiny:

She would go out and trap strays, then bring them to her home. One was what we originally thought was a pregnant Rottie. It turned out to be a male with a belly full of parasites. This dog was so aggressive (psycho) that it would charge the fence whenever it saw somebody in an adjacent yard. It would hit the chain link fence so hard the top rail would bow out 6-8" from the force of the impact. Subsequent battles with her landlord finally forced her out but not before she made the lives of the owners around her a stinking hell. :fire:

The rest of my dogs were all mutts too. One, a "Peekapoo/terrier/beagle/spitz mix ended up being the longest lived dog I had. He finally had to be euthanized when he was 16-4 due to an assortment of health problems. Next was one whose mother was a liver-on-white Springer and a stray mutt daddy but she came out looking like a miniature Golden. She had a stroke when she was 15-7 and had to be put down as well. Then there was the 3rd GSH. His kidneys failed at 14-7 and we had to let him go too.

Now, for the last 10 years, I have had to get my "dog fix" vicariously from friends and neighbors.

D.B. Cooper · Oct 8, 2020

Terry G said:
The Labrador would be perfect. (I'm totally biased) But they shed enough to stuff a mattress.View attachment 947051

Yellow labs make the best labs. =)

We lost ours a year ago this month; he was 14-1/2. And yes, shed enough to stuff a mattress lol.

I don't know how good he would have been in a fight. A cocker spaniel jumped him on a popular trail one year and my lab just stood there waiting for me to bail him out.

However, a guy tried to open our front door once. I saw our lab's head raise up and thought nothing of it. A half second later he was on his feet and charging the front door. By the time I was on my feet, I heard our screen door close and looked out the window just in time to see a guy run down our driveway and up the street.

In regards to people poisoning dogs, it happens often, and labs, in particular, are very susceptible due to their natural focus on food.

D.B. Cooper · Oct 8, 2020

Frulk said:
My neighbor behind me has a Rhodesian Ridgeback. He named him Trigger. Well behaved until someone unknown comes around. While not mine I consider him part of my early warning system.

My neighbors had one, too. Really interesting breed.

CDW4ME · Oct 8, 2020

Dogs for home security, deterrent.
~1 min. in what appears to be a Bullmastiff engages potential intruder, despite being hit & kicked the dog doesn't quit.
When they run off at top of screen it aint over yet.

Bullmastiff and Doberman were originally bred to be guardian / protection dogs.

Jeff White · Oct 8, 2020

Let's remember what forum this is. We are on THR in the Strategies, Tactics and Training subforum. Let's try to keep our posts on topic. I'm sure everyone has heartwarming dog stories. I certainly do, but let's stay focused on dogs as part of your security plan.

bdickens · Oct 8, 2020

George P said:
Nope, nice semi-rural small town is where I live. I never said it was Mayberry or crime free. I did say we just do not have the BS that some folks seem to live with. Way too many folks can't seem to get out of bed without immediately strapping on a gun to even go to the toilet. I do not live in that neighborhood, nor will I live my life in constant fear - that is no way to live.

But ya got guns stashed all over the house, don't ya....

Thomasss · Oct 9, 2020

My profile image is a half beagle and half Rhodesian Ridgeback. I know everything that is going on in the neighborhood, whether I want to or not. My wife sometimes get annoyed, but the dog won't let anyone in the house she doesn't know.

Obturation · Oct 9, 2020

I think a dog is very useful as a warning system and deterrent to casual criminals. Of course a really bad person would just kill the dog if they got in the way. I do think a dog should be able to alert and if physically large enough help defend the home if the need would arise.

My house wolf, Cletus (haha, I know)-

11 years old , found as a tiny abandoned puppy in Texarkana and brought back home when no one claimed him. 115# in his prime and about 105# now that he's getting old, one weak leg and a couple fatty tumors but still a formidable looking mutt. A great family dog who treats my 1&3 year olds like a treasure to protect and will bark if anything moves in the yard (he barks a lot). My first line of alert, my friend and a beloved member of the family. He's a good boy.

Kleanbore · Oct 9, 2020

Obturation said:
I think a dog is very useful as a warning system and deterrent to casual criminals.

Most people here seem to agree.

Obturation said:
Of course a really bad person would just kill the dog if they got in the way.

That is a legitimate concern.

Obturation said:
I do think a dog should be able to alert and if physically large enough help defend the home if the need would arise.

I do not want our dog putting herself in harms way.

Nor do I want a dog that the dope people would find highly attractive for theft.

Anther part of the overall risk management picture has to do with liability. Some breeds tend to be more dangerous, and the reputations of some some are likely to influence jurors unfavorably.,

Obturation · Oct 9, 2020

Kleanbore said:
I do not want our dog putting herself in harms way.

Agree, but I don't think I could dissuade my pup from trying his best to defend his family. My dog is older and a lot of the time recently he sleeps on the ground level at night, maybe old and lazy or some joint pain or he just doesn't want a 1 year old climbing on him when he's sleeping soundly . not sure why, he is active during the day but will limp some if he's been running a lot. I think if someone tried to break in he's the first thing they'd meet but I don't think he'd be likely to run away. I truly hope I never find out.

Kleanbore said:
Nor do I want a dog that the dope people would find highly attractive for theft.

Me either, I'm safe from that risk I think.

Kleanbore said:
Anther part of the overall risk management picture has to do with liability. Some breeds tend to be more dangerous, and the reputations of some some are likely to influence jurors unfavorably.,

Also agree, I like pitbulls, Rottweilers, german shepherds, dobermans ect. But wouldn't get one just due to public bias and liability. My dog is a German shepherd mix , we think with hound of some kind. Mutts seem more even tempered in general from my experience and mine at least is the most loyal and trustworthy animal I've known, except if there's something tasty sitting out where he can get it.

whughett · Oct 9, 2020

Training Thread. In that vein how does one train a dog to keep unwanted intruders off the property but know the difference tween human and animal. A skunk and for the second time got all macho and got a face full of stink for his trouble. Of course yours truly has to deodorize him, 8:30 at night. Not too bad, first time was 1:30 AM.

Old Dog · Oct 10, 2020

whughett said:
In that vein how does one train a dog to keep unwanted intruders off the property but know the difference tween human and animal.

If that's what you decide that you need -- or want -- you're going to have to start training your dog early (year, year and a half) and spend quite a bit of money acquiring that training for your companion. Or you can spend 10K or much more and get an adult protection dog already trained ...

RoboDuck · Dec 24, 2020

My wife says they aren't bad dogs , they get excited real easy .

RoboDuck · Dec 24, 2020

Hangingrock · Dec 24, 2020

We reside in a rural county there are dogs, lots and lots of them. Their primary attribute is they bark, bark and bark thus their owners are aware that the dogs are barking at something but under who knows what. We have yet to encounter a will trained dog and or owner of that dog. In rural areas dogs may run in packs and have been known to pull down live stock.

weeniewawa · Dec 24, 2020

Trunk Monkey said:
My dog Mutt

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Seriously, I watch crackheads walk up and down the street with purebred dogs (the one that sticks in my mind was a purebred Rottweiler) that they couldn't possibly afford to buy every night.

Where do you think those dogs come from?

When I lived in a house I caught my neighbor throwing rotten meat over our fence to our dogs just because she was fruitier than a nut cake.

We no longer own any dogs (except Mutt) but when we did they were not allowed outside unsupervised under any circumstances.

ETA Mutt is no longer an outside dog. She stays inside now.

maybe you have seen this cat that looks like a dog

LNK · Dec 24, 2020

Kleanbore said:
For those who can have them at home, many of us believe that dogs can provide a measure of security against evil-doers and other risks. They warn us, and their bark may well dissuade those who would enter our homes uninvited.

Dogs either have to be walked or let out into a fenced yard.

LEOs, including some who are members here, have told us of incidents in which bad guys have tossed poison or sedatives into the yard to take the dogs out of the picture, or to sedate them so they can be taken for sale.

We would notice the effects right away. We do not want it to happen to our dog.

We do not want our dog to engage with any human. If it's a crook, she would probably be shot. If not, she would likely be taken from us.

We do not let our dog out unless one of us is at home.

I think that having a dog can add an extra margin of safety and security against crime, fire, and other dangers.

They can also create serious liability. Anyone choosing a dog breed should look at all facets of the subject.

In our case, we want an intelligent, non-aggressive dog with a long life span that is not apt to have congenital health problems . One that does not shed. And one that can be taught to stay in and/or return to the yard.

Sadly, some of those rule out the Parson Russell.

Standard poodles are what we settled on. Our last one passed at 13. The new pup is learning to fill her shoes nicely. Very smart dogs, and friendly too. Did I mention loves to learn new things? Makes me seem like a professional dog trainer. I am far from that. I wish they stuck around longer. I wish they all did. Good luck on the search.

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