wiscoaster
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I don't like the chassis rifle Bergara offers, and anyway, there are non availalbe.
.270 Win long action?
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wiscoaster
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My choices, in descending order, would be: 1) Bergara, 2) Tikka, 3) Howa. Thanks for asking.
I was asking about .270 Win because I can get the Bergara in that caliber right now. Any other caliber and I'd have to wait. Howa is available in pretty much any caliber.
Dave DeLaurant
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OK, here's what I found out digging around various websites --
Bergara B-14: .270 Winchester is offered in their long action
file:///F:/Pics/GunPics/2018_Bergara_Catalog.pdf (see page 8)
Tikka T3x: one action size with different mag well lengths -- they accomodate different cartridge lengths using magazine spacers.
https://choose.tikka.fi/usa/tikka/t3x-laminated-stainless
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https://support.mdttac.com/hc/en-us...een-the-short-and-long-caliber-Tikka-chassis-
Howa 1500: .270 Winchester is offered in their long action
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/barreled-receivers/1500-barreled-action-standard-barrel-blue-270-win-2-prod94601.aspx?avs|Manufacturer_1=HOWA
Bergara B-14: .270 Winchester is offered in their long action
file:///F:/Pics/GunPics/2018_Bergara_Catalog.pdf (see page 8)
Tikka T3x: one action size with different mag well lengths -- they accomodate different cartridge lengths using magazine spacers.
https://choose.tikka.fi/usa/tikka/t3x-laminated-stainless
- also-
https://support.mdttac.com/hc/en-us...een-the-short-and-long-caliber-Tikka-chassis-
Howa 1500: .270 Winchester is offered in their long action
https://www.brownells.com/rifle-parts/receiver-parts/receivers/barreled-receivers/1500-barreled-action-standard-barrel-blue-270-win-2-prod94601.aspx?avs|Manufacturer_1=HOWA
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wiscoaster
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Thanks, Dave.
cdb1
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I used a .270 for 90% of my hunting from 1973 until ten years ago. For the past 10 years I’ve mostly used a 6.5x55 in a modern action on deer. For the sake of this post I’m operating on the assumption my 6.5x55 and the 6.5 Creedmoor are identical Ballistically-because they are since I hand load.
I’ve never found the .270 wanting in any way. Max distance of 350 yards when hunting. Can’t tell a difference in killing power between it and the Swede. Went to the Swede cuz I have a really bad shoulder and wanted less recoil.
As has been stated a 1:10 twist .270 will handle all but a very FEW 150 grain cartridges.
For strictly hunting it doesn’t matter which cartridge you use IMO. If you are going to do a fair amount of target shooting at distances over 350 yards then I’d get a 6.5 Creedmoor.
I’ve never found the .270 wanting in any way. Max distance of 350 yards when hunting. Can’t tell a difference in killing power between it and the Swede. Went to the Swede cuz I have a really bad shoulder and wanted less recoil.
As has been stated a 1:10 twist .270 will handle all but a very FEW 150 grain cartridges.
For strictly hunting it doesn’t matter which cartridge you use IMO. If you are going to do a fair amount of target shooting at distances over 350 yards then I’d get a 6.5 Creedmoor.
Garandimal
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If you have a hankerin' for somethin' that smells of sardines and olive oil...?
The FN/Winchester M70 is assembled in Vianna, Portugal.
GR
wiscoaster
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Sardines?!?!? Eeeewwwww!!!! 
Garandimal
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Sardines?!?!? Eeeewwwww!!!!
...with cheese, bacon, and Cajun Seasoning.
... but it doesn't seem to know it.
GR
JFrank
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With those listed I personally went with the Tikka, I’ve seen a few lately in Creedmoor at the lgs
Dave DeLaurant
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Don't forget the milk -- the Portuguese are big players in our local dairy industry.
wiscoaster
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I'm eyeballing the T3X Lite Roughtech ... any comments?
doubleh
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Maybe it looks janky but since it's contained INSIDE the stock you can't see it so what's the problem? Since it is not a structural part of the action I see it as a way to make a slightly shorter, lighter, and slightly less expensive to manufacture gun. Skip line checkering was the "thing" back in the sixties. I always looked at it as a way to offer checkering requiring less work to keep costs down. It may look odd to younger people but tastes and styles change.This gun was my final deer rifle and it has accounted for several. Neither I nor the deer ever noticed anything janky about the rifle's performance. You want to see janky? Just look at many of the guns sold today, especially plastic, oops, polymer, semi-auto pistols.
JFrank
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This short action Tikka T-3 lite has a generous freebore that eats most any ammunition, what I also like is the bolt stop can be easily changed to long action coupled with a long action magazine allows for hand loaded ammo beyond 2.800 to function freelyAttachments
Dave DeLaurant
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Just idle curiousity, but was your's in 30-06 too? Half or fullstock? Any photos?
doubleh
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Mine is an ‘06 and looks just like the one in your picture. I changed to a Timney trigger, recut the checkering to sharpen it up, and installed a recoil pad along with a glass bedding job.The glass bedding cut my 100 yard group sizes in half. It wears an early seventies Tasco 3x9 scope.
Dave DeLaurant
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Love to see a photo sometime, here or PM. I put a Timney on mine too, and glass bedded the recoil lug area. Here's the full Wards catalog ad, BTW:
rayatphonix
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I’ve got several Bergara’s and one Sako A7 Pro Hunter with a Roughtech stock.
Sako and Tikka are two companies under the same ownership. I’ve never liked the stock on traditional TX3’s, but the Roughtech could change my opinion. I love the feel of the stock on my Sako and it’s served me well. I did have to sand the barrel chamber to ensure no contact with the barrel, but that was simple. Looking at the Tikka site, the stock feel should be nearly identical.
The Bergara Premier is my favorite rifle. I love the Grayboe stock and it’s one of the few actions I’ve handled that’s smoother than the Tikka/Sako.
Getting down to the details, the Sako is at least as accurate as the Bergara, and certainly easier to load for. Jim above is correct, about anything shoots well in my Sako, and I’d venture the same would be true for the Tikka as the barrels are identical.
I guess what I’m trying to say is both are excellent rifles. The Tikka is considerably less expensive and if it shoots like my Sako Roughtech, it will be just as accurate. If it feels good to you, i wouldn’t hesitate.
Sako and Tikka are two companies under the same ownership. I’ve never liked the stock on traditional TX3’s, but the Roughtech could change my opinion. I love the feel of the stock on my Sako and it’s served me well. I did have to sand the barrel chamber to ensure no contact with the barrel, but that was simple. Looking at the Tikka site, the stock feel should be nearly identical.
The Bergara Premier is my favorite rifle. I love the Grayboe stock and it’s one of the few actions I’ve handled that’s smoother than the Tikka/Sako.
Getting down to the details, the Sako is at least as accurate as the Bergara, and certainly easier to load for. Jim above is correct, about anything shoots well in my Sako, and I’d venture the same would be true for the Tikka as the barrels are identical.
I guess what I’m trying to say is both are excellent rifles. The Tikka is considerably less expensive and if it shoots like my Sako Roughtech, it will be just as accurate. If it feels good to you, i wouldn’t hesitate.
Negligible for some, noticeable for others.
I think we'd all like a photo
My Tikka does not fit me well and I am considering parting with it. I could take off the 1" pad and replace with a 1/2" grind to fit pad like the Pachmayr DP200. The LOP on my laminate tikka 270 is about 1/2" longer than my Ruger and my Weatherby.
Some folks say 1/2" doesn"t matter. I guess then no one should trifle between size 9.5 and size 11 shoes.
DocRock
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Psychological needs are hard to quantify
There aren't but a few handful of people in the world for whom the difference could be of tangible importance in a hunting rifle. And even in a target rifle, it's at least 90% psychological. But I won't mess with your 10%. I'm sure that as you wring the last fraction of a millimeter out at 2000 meters, the short action is the key....
doubleh
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Here is the old Monkey Ward '06. There wasn't much of a choice for background.
This is the only rifle that has ever given me scope eye. I forgot one other thing that I did to it. I jeweled the bolt.
This is the only rifle that has ever given me scope eye. I forgot one other thing that I did to it. I jeweled the bolt.
Well if your gonna get punched in the face by a gun, might as well be a good looking one.
doubleh
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You might have noticed the scope is set as far forward as it will go. I used to be sort of a stock crawler in my younger years and that is the reason. I haven't shot this rifle in years and found when I got it out and shouldered it my neck isn't nearly as limber as it used to be. I'm in the process of loading some low recoil ammo for it and will probably need to move the scope back just a little to fit my stiffened neck.
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